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Why the Hell . . . .

Skwim

Skwim

Veteran Member
It's said that hell was originally created as a place for Satan and his angels. (From what a lot of Christians have said, evidently Satan hasn't found his way there yet, as he's still leading us good humans astray.) Fine, but then god decided to use hell as a final resting place for those of us who fail to toe his line.

So what's the deal here? Was hell going to waste with no Satan to burn? Or does god simply get a kick out of making people suffer?

Just what is accomplished by putting people in hell?


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Thana

Thana

Lady
You could just as easily ask 'What is accomplished by putting people in heaven?'

Either way the bible doesn't say, exactly.

Personally, I think it's because the constant sin warps your soul into something unrepentant and irredeemable. And where else would you put a soul like that?
 
Ingledsva

Ingledsva

HEATHEN ALASKAN
Skwim said:
It's said that hell was originally created as a place for Satan and his angels. (From what a lot of Christians have said, evidently Satan hasn't found his way there yet, as he's still leading us good humans astray.) Fine, but then god decided to use hell as a final resting place for those of us who fail to toe his line.

So what's the deal here? Was hell going to waste with no Satan to burn? Or does god simply get a kick out of making people suffer?

Just what is accomplished by putting people in hell?
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Yep, I get a kick out of how much Christians have changed what Tanakh actually said about Satan.

Satan isn't evil in Tanakh. He is a servant of YHVH.

They have Satan acquiring evil angels whom presumably fell with him, - however there is no such verse with Satan and angels falling, - they mistranslated/misunderstood it.

No Hell either, everyone went to Sheol. They picked the Hell idea up from other religions.

Yet they expect us to believe it. I don't get it. :confused:

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Smart_Guy

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Premium Member
I don't think it matters. I think what matters is giving it to those who deserve it.
 
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Aiviu

Aiviu

Active Member
Hell is the death of a person towards the physical world which causes an inner desire to revive the setting of the moments they felt alive. And that raises steadily which will put themself into lethargy to keep it unfulfilled, to keep it desireful.

Accomplishment is that through the recognition of God the person can be free and truely alive. But a person can fall to death again by setting the reason of being truely alive to anything else than God.
 
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Desert Snake

Veteran Member
Hell is the result of freewill. If you don't think Hell or Hell/s/ , has a purpose, then clearly, you also don't think that morality has any meaning besides an arbitrary list of rules.
 
Draka

Draka

Wonder Woman
There are other options other than Hell if a soul is deemed "not worthy" to move on to a higher plane. The most final and unforgiving would be destruction. The soul simply ceases to exist. Then, the more forgiving and parent-like option would be reincarnation. Another chance to learn, redeem oneself. Hell has no purpose other than cruelness. Only a cruel vindictive deity would find use of Hell.
 
Draka

Draka

Wonder Woman
djhwoodwerks said:
People that claim they don't believe in hell, or God, seem to ask more questions about it then those who do believe. Why is that? Are you looking for validation?
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Most likely because it is quite a large part of a belief system that blatantly makes no sense, especially when that same belief system purports to have a loving god. Of course it would spark questions. Not for validation, but probably more just to get people to realize just how much it does not make sense.
 
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djhwoodwerks

Well-Known Member
Draka said:
Most likely because it is quite a large part of a belief system that blatantly makes no sense, especially when that same belief system purports to have a loving god. Of course it would spark questions. Not for validation, but probably more just to get people to realize just how much it does not make sense.
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Naw, that's not it. If non believers keep asking questions about what they don't believe, they're looking for something.
 
lewisnotmiller

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
Smart_Guy said:
Did I say I want to put any one into hell?
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Errr...yes. You said the important thing is to put those that deserve it there. Did I misunderstand?

Smart_Guy said:
And do I have to know who deserves it so they do really deserve it?
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No. If you're not one who claims to know who is a sinner, and you don't tacitly support those who do claim to know, then that's good enough for me.
 
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djhwoodwerks

Well-Known Member
Draka said:
Perhaps they are looking for those who do believe, and shove that ridiculous belief upon them time and time again,
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Naw, that's not it either. If they don't believe it, and don't want to hear it, they wouldn't go to sites that have people that believe it, They wouldn't "bring up" the subject themselves.
 
lewisnotmiller

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
djhwoodwerks said:
I can appreciate that. But if someone doesn't believe in something, why care what motivates someone who does believe it?
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Well, for me personally, there is largely a historical aspect. I'm a student of history, and some of the periods are so intertwined with religion that almost any study of politics is going to inter-relate.

But apart from that, religion is one of the largest motivators of behaviour. I don't mean that in a simplistic 'Theists blindly follow x' type way, but in a more abstract sense. Politics is another, and also an area of interest. I'm quite interested in various schools of political thought, for example, but by definition I can't actually follow/believe in them all.

I attend Christian and occasionally Muslim/Jewish services due to friends and family. I was raised in a (somewhat loosely) Christian house. It goes on and on. But even if religion disappeared tomorrow, I'd still be interested in religion from a historical standpoint anyway.

Obviously can be different for different people, but that's my tale.
 
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