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Why they are fake?

AhmedE

Member
I don't except you to understand this

No I understand what you say pretty clear, it's the idea of the unity of the universe .. this though I know nothing but darkness and won't benefit anyone with anything I mean if you can not believe that god created us? or you just can not understand it .. it does not mean that what you can understand is the truth ..
 

AhmedE

Member
Everyone has his own beliefs
you can do that by two ways:
1- You follow what god said
2- You follow your own decision and your mind which may make a mistake
anyway, those thoughts like "how god should be" and "what god should do" might not be predicted by our minds if we don't have enough information ..
 
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psychoslice

Veteran Member
No I understand what you say pretty clear, it's the idea of the unity of the universe .. this though I know nothing but darkness and won't benefit anyone with anything I mean if you can not believe that god created us? or you just can not understand it .. it does not mean that what you can understand is the truth ..
Yes and what you understand doesn't mean its truth also, you see what I mean, to me its arrogance to believe you hold the truth and everyone else doesn't, this is ego driven, nothing to do with a God.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Everyone has his own beliefs
you can do that by two ways:
1- You follow what god said
2- You follow your own decision and your mind which may make a mistake
anyway, those thoughts like "how god should be" and "what god should do" might not be predicted by our minds if we don't have enough information ..

God made me completely unfit to believe in his existence. That must mean that he does not exist, or at the very least there is no particular reason why people should care whether other people believe in his existence.

Unless you presume to know better than God, perhaps?
 

HonestJoe

Well-Known Member
They used in the past to open the skull if one had a headache! .. it was not something wrong (they thought so because of their ignorance)
For certain kinds of headache they did and you know what - they weren't necessarily wrong. Archaeological evidence shows many such patients survived and similar procedures are performed in hospitals today for certain conditions. It seems there was a certain group of people you presumed were ignorant but it turns out you were mistaken, your single minded bias preventing you from taking a closer look at the facts.

I only mention it because it's relevant to some of the core points you make and you general attitude as expressed in the thread so this revelation might encourage you to look at things from some different angles.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
How does that even work?
Far as I can figure, from starting with a preconception that any authority figure must care whether he is obeyed, then extrapolating from a conception that God is the ultimate authority figure.

Of course, that falls into the obstacle that it results in a conception of God that is both unrealistic and unimpressive. But apparently it is good enough for many people. I hope it serves them well.
 

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
Far as I can figure, from starting with a preconception that any authority figure must care whether he is obeyed, then extrapolating from a conception that God is the ultimate authority figure.

Which, of course, requires the notion that a "God" is inherently an authority figure, which our Gods aren't.

Of course, that falls into the obstacle that it results in a conception of God that is both unrealistic and unimpressive. But apparently it is good enough for many people. I hope it serves them well.

Same.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Which, of course, requires the notion that a "God" is inherently an authority figure, which our Gods aren't.

Indeed. Many or most conceptions of God are after all about transcendence and/or about specific virtues personified.

Authority figures are in many ways a poor template for a deity.
 
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