why this method of communicating ...

[hadzo]

Through out the ages we as humans have recorded religious believes or rather words from God through “books”.

My question to all very faithful is:

Why did the all mighty chose to communicate his words through books?

It is a well-established scientific fact that humans have potential to obscure history written down and so the same goes with holly books. This is an almost certain way to fail to deliver the message.

Why not just whisper into our thoughts?

Again*

An all mighty and most powerful creators of us all… Result of chosen method = constant fighting over who’s book is right. So then, it almost appears as if he, well for the lack of better words “chose an unwisely method”.


Ohh, almost forgot… Talking with few prophets doesn’t quite cut it now does it?

 

[Breathe]

Technically God didn't, lol. They were compiled later.

Welcome to RF.

 

[Gaura Priya]

What Odion said!

 

[wordmagnifiedabovenames]

Why did the all mighty chose to communicate his words through books?

Technically God didn't, lol. They were compiled later.

^This, and possibly because the written mode is a lot less transient than the spoken mode.

Why not just whisper into our thoughts?

The Bible says that God did, as well as using methods of communication including dreams, visions, angelic visitations and divine manifestations etc. In my experience He still does use most of these things.

That said, the Bible shows that God instructs people to write down their visions, so God obviously approves of the written mode of communication in some measure.

 

[hadzo]

With all due respect… I haven’t been hearing anything; ever otherwise we would have not been discussing this.


People are in constant debate over whose “book” has most true words in it, which is a problem that could be easily fixed if God would just have it as I mentioned. Matter of fact these debates have turned into all out wars. So again, I ask why not just whisper into our thought? – And not whispers of “follow this way and slay any one that seas it otherwise”, as is apparent in today’s age. I’m pretty sure that by now you all see where I am going with this. If not, than let me say this: if God does exist why allow his words spread through so many “books” that have brought blood shed for so many years? Or … God does exist and is a biggest hypocrite the world has ever known. Perhaps we are nothing more than entertainment for him/her/it.

 

[Caladan]

The answer is simple. it is not the almighty communicating his thoughts to human beings. it is other people. who were living in harsh circumstances and put the words into text. so that we can read these words today and appreciate their political struggle.

Just like we communicate today via satellite networks. and just like we are privileged today to sit at the comfort of our homes, with a cup of hot drink and brows the net. in order to read the current news, or to communicate.

 

[Breathe]

Perhaps that God likes choice, or freedom (some people would whine, "Why are we virtually robots?!" if we had no choice.). Or perhaps "He" does not care.

Or did not author the books. Perhaps these books are written by early civilizations attempting to understand the Supreme and forces of nature, with people making the books, and more stuff being added as time goes on.

Curious, what religious scriptures have you read?

 

[hadzo]

I haven’t read anything in its fullest but have spoken with few that have. This is in respect to Christianity (Catholic) and Islam. Haven’t had chances to speak with someone with Asian religions knowledge or Hindu but I do plan to if opportunity presents its self.


Personally I do not believe in a God as described by most common religions today. There’s most certainly something responsible for the existence of universe but not quite as presented. The question I asked derives from strong resentment of today’s world affairs with religions. My intelligent has been insulted many times for asking it; the very same knowledgeable people reference this above. I guess one of the main reasons many hate this question is that it puts a logical barrier to God’s limitless powers and his true intentions to what most people perceive him/her/it as.

 

[Breathe]

I'd suggest you check out Hinduism, Buddhism, Taoism and Sikhism's philosophy, as your stuff is very Abrahamic faith centred and it may be nice for you to see not all religions are this way.

 

[ninerbuff]

I'm thinking that if god wanted to communicate then sky writing is an option.

 

[wordmagnifiedabovenames]

With all due respect… I haven’t been hearing anything; ever otherwise we would have not been discussing this.

With all due respect... perhaps that's because you're not listening. This may be presumpteous of me, but perhaps you don't think there's anything worth listening to, or perhaps you think you won't like what the message being "whispered into your thoughts" will say about what you should change in your life.

I'd say that if you want a word from God go and read the Bible. If you're not satisfied with it, pray and ask Him to "whisper something into your thoughts." Chances are He'll respond with "you just read it."

...if God does exist why allow his words spread through so many “books” that have brought blood shed for so many years? Or … God does exist and is a biggest hypocrite the world has ever known.

I'd say that it's peoples' misinterpretation and alteration of texts that have led to the bloodshed, or in some cases it's just peoples' general desire to be superior to each other and quell disagreement by force that has led to bloodshed, and religious texts (possibly with some misinterpretations and alterations) then being used to justify these actions.

However, if the reason for bloodshed is really God allowing books to be used for communication instead of "just whispering into peoples' thoughts," how does this make God a hypocrite? Have you found a verse in the Bible (or quran, as you mentioned islam earlier) that says "thou shalt not allow your choice of using books as a method of communication instead of "whispering into peoples' thoughts" to be the cause of bloodshed?"

I'm thinking that if god wanted to communicate then sky writing is an option.

Good point. So do I.
Ps 19:1, Luke 21:25. It seems God did/does/will use sky writing for communication.

 

[hadzo]

With all due respect... perhaps that's because you're not listening. This may be presumpteous of me, but perhaps you don't think there's anything worth listening to, or perhaps you think you won't like what the message being "whispered into your thoughts" will say about what you should change in your life.

There is a difference between listening to my own thoughts while trying to interpret, which God sent, and hearing distinct one voice representing God.

I'd say that if you want a word from God go and read the Bible. If you're not satisfied with it, pray and ask Him to "whisper something into your thoughts." Chances are He'll respond with "you just read it."

Will he respond or your own thoughts?

However, if the reason for bloodshed is really God allowing books to be used for communication instead of "just whispering into peoples' thoughts," how does this make God a hypocrite? Have you found a verse in the Bible (or quran, as you mentioned islam earlier) that says "thou shalt not allow your choice of using books as a method of communication instead of "whispering into peoples' thoughts" to be the cause of bloodshed?"

Put it this way…. Say I’m a very powerful being, not like god but someone for sure not to mess with… I have a crew, labor crew. I order them to work. I tell them to be creative, use your thoughts. I say you are free to choose as you wish were the right way but as long as you follow my instructions and rules. From that moment I appoint someone to handle the rest of the way. Years later that crew has naturally slacked with some instructions, my appointed can no longer convince them of the rules. Now what, should I just sit back and watch it all fall apart? Or should I step in and say something, anything to set the man straight?

Oh, one more thing… if I choose not to step in, and watch my crew fall apart, butcher them self to the last one… Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that I am all loving and forgiving all in all nothing but good being… get the point.

 

[PolyHedral]

He does not whisper into our thoughts because we don't have the cabling.

(Kudos to anyone who gets the reference.)

 

[ellenjanuary]

Straight witchcraft. It helps to understand that the written word is powerful mojo. If there is communication with the divine, it is through visual simulation. That is in line with scholarly assessment, and also conservation laws. Providing something akin to a mathematical equation to be run in the processing space of the mind as a form of applet is far more practical and meaningful than actual dictation.

But then, of course; entropy sets in. Prophet might miss the mark of "perfect assessment" by a hair, but by the time the story is past the campfire, it's all about killing; after a few translations, everybody is burning in hell. And there's god, going... jeez, I just said I love you... I ain't talking to these monkeys for a bit.

 

[hadzo]

^ lol!

 

[Riverwolf]

I believe that God doesn't communicate with actual words, but with intuition, feeling, etc. (Unless you're mentally linked with Him, which is difficult to do.) When the Sages (and their students) had these experiences, they wrote down/communicated somehow them, albeit through their own biases.

I, personally, have a bias towards Vedic literature as having the most spiritual worth, but I accept that not everyone agrees with me.

I don't necessarily believe that God interferes, because He/She/It expects us to do it. Most of the time, when bad stuff happens, it's because we screwed up (either individually or as a whole), and it's wholly within human ability to remedy it. Why should God do our work for us?

But as we, for the most part, don't, He works through people, such as Amma and other Sages, who are, of course, physically limited in what they do, to serve as examples of how to cure most of the ills that we've brought upon ourselves.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Historically, most fiction has come in book form.

 

[ellenjanuary]

I believe that God doesn't communicate with actual words, but with intuition, feeling, etc. (Unless you're mentally linked with Him, which is difficult to do.)

Not to mention blowing some circuitry and burning some boards...

When the Sages (and their students) had these experiences, they wrote down/communicated somehow them, albeit through their own biases.

I, personally, have a bias towards Vedic literature as having the most spiritual worth, but I accept that not everyone agrees with me.

I don't necessarily believe that God interferes, because He/She/It expects us to do it. Most of the time, when bad stuff happens, it's because we screwed up (either individually or as a whole), and it's wholly within human ability to remedy it. Why should God do our work for us?

But as we, for the most part, don't, He works through people, such as Amma and other Sages, who are, of course, physically limited in what they do, to serve as examples of how to cure most of the ills that we've brought upon ourselves.

Good stuff. Ima gonna hafta scope some Vedic one of these days.

 

[wordmagnifiedabovenames]

There is a difference between listening to my own thoughts while trying to interpret, which God sent, and hearing distinct one voice representing God.

I agree, you just have to figure out which is which.

Will he respond or your own thoughts?

Either is possible.

if God does exist why allow his words spread through so many “books” that have brought blood shed for so many years? Or … God does exist and is a biggest hypocrite the world has ever known.

...if the reason for bloodshed is really God allowing books to be used for communication instead of "just whispering into peoples' thoughts," how does this make God a hypocrite? Have you found a verse in the Bible (or quran, as you mentioned islam earlier) that says "thou shalt not allow your choice of using books as a method of communication instead of "whispering into peoples' thoughts" to be the cause of bloodshed?"

Put it this way…Say I’m a very powerful being, not like god but someone for sure not to mess with… I have a crew, labor crew. I order them to work. I tell them to be creative, use your thoughts. I say you are free to choose as you wish were the right way but as long as you follow my instructions and rules. From that moment I appoint someone to handle the rest of the way. Years later that crew has naturally slacked with some instructions, my appointed can no longer convince them of the rules.

So you haven't found a verse that says "thou shalt not allow your choice of using books as a method of communication instead of 'whispering into peoples' thoughts" to be the cause of bloodshed." If it's really God's choice of method of communication that is the cause of bloodshed, but He hasn't given a command to "not allow your choice method of communication to be the cause of bloodshed," then God's not actually being hypocritical, He's just doing things in a way you disagree with.

Now what, should I just sit back and watch it all fall apart? Or should I step in and say something, anything to set the man straight?

That would depend upon how much you cared about the success of the task you'd assigned to your labour crew. I'd point out that throughout history God has kept on "stepping in" and "setting the man straight."

Oh, one more thing… if I choose not to step in, and watch my crew fall apart, butcher them self to the last one…

if......what?

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that I am all loving and forgiving all in all nothing but good being… get the point.

Well, I think your analogy is imperfect. Why do you think the God of the Bible is all forgiving?

 

[Hawkins]

Basically, it's about faith, that is, what kind of faith is required by the Covenant for a human to be saved. The Bible is a witnessing + prophecy. Witnessing invites a believe or not by faith. Witnessing itself is already the most efficient mean of conveying truth but demanding faith at the same time. Prophecying is also an efficient way (perhaps the most efficient way as well) of confirming truth. Science makes use of predictability to confirm scientific truth.

I alreday said before, assume that you met with God by yourself. Now what you can do to others that you actually met with Him yourself. To write a book of witnessing is already the most efficient way, at the same time, it demands a believe or not from others, by faith.