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Why Trump is Constantly and Easily Misled by Fake News

leibowde84

Veteran Member
This is a HUGE problem. The President refuses to use common sense by checking sources when confronted with misleading, false or altogether "trumped up" stories. He trusts his aids who, repeatedly, have put fake internet stories/claims on his desk.

It can't be denied that a President who doesn't fact check the "news" put on his desk is dangerous. Whether it comes from CNN, MSNBC, Fox News, Breitbart or GotNews.com, news stories should always be checked out.

And, before you blindly claim that this article is "fake news", keep in mind that it makes sense and would explain the discrepancies between Trump's opinions and fact.

How Trump gets his fake news

"White House chief of staff Reince Priebus issued a stern warning at a recent senior staff meeting: Quit trying to secretly slip stuff to President Trump.

Just days earlier, K.T. McFarland, the deputy national security adviser, had given Trump a printout of two Time magazine covers. One, supposedly from the 1970s, warned of a coming ice age; the other, from 2008, about surviving global warming, according to four White House officials familiar with the matter.

Trump quickly got lathered up about the media’s hypocrisy. But there was a problem. The 1970s cover was fake, part of an Internet hoax that’s circulated for years. Staff chased down the truth and intervened before Trump tweeted or talked publicly about it.

The episode illustrates the impossible mission of managing a White House led by an impetuous president who has resisted structure and strictures his entire adult life.

While the information stream to past commanders-in-chief has been tightly monitored, Trump prefers an open Oval Office with a free flow of ideas and inputs from both official and unofficial channels. And he often does not differentiate between the two. Aides sometimes slip him stories to press their advantage on policy; other times they do so to gain an edge in the seemingly endless Game of Thrones inside the West Wing."

"That is what happened in late February when someone mischievously gave the president a printed copy of an article from GotNews.com, the website of Internet provocateur Charles C. Johnson, which accused deputy chief of staff Katie Walsh of being “the source behind a bunch of leaks” in the White House.

No matter that Johnson had been permanently banned from Twitter for harassment or that he offered no concrete evidence or that he’s lobbed false accusations in the past and recanted them. Trump read the article and began asking staff about Walsh. Johnson told POLITICO that he tracks the IP addresses of visitors to his website and added: “I can tell you unequivocally that the story was shared all around the White House.”

White House chief strategist Steve Bannon defended Walsh, who has since left the administration to advise a pro-Trump group, in a statement to POLITICO: “Katie was a key member of the team and is a trusted friend and ally of the White House. No one in the White House took that article seriously.” Walsh declined to comment.

But the smear of one of Priebus’ closest allies – Walsh was his chief of staff at the Republican National Committee – vaulted from an obscure web posting to the topic of heated conversation in the West Wing, setting off mini internal investigations into who had backstabbed Walsh.

When Trump bellows about this or that story, his aides often scramble in a game of cat-and-mouse to figure out who alerted the president to the piece in the first place given that he rarely browses the Internet on his own. Some in the White House describe getting angry calls from the president and then hustling over to Trump’s personal secretary, Madeleine Westerhout, to ferret who exactly had just paid a visit to the Oval Office and possibly set Trump off."
 

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
Trump sifts everything through his "I-Me-Mine" filter, which, depending on its impact on him or his image, will determine its veracity.
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I'm not convinced that he's actually aware that anything outside of himself exists in any meaningful sense.
 

Kemosloby

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I would put the fault on the person who slipped false information to the President. Obviously the news makes up all sorts of lies such as global warming, another Ice age is just an example of that. Difference is which is the official lie. They don't know what the weather will do past 10 days...
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
I would put the fault on the person who slipped false information to the President. Obviously the news makes up all sorts of lies such as global warming, another Ice age is just an example of that. Difference is which is the official lie. They don't know what the weather will do past 10 days...
You might need a refresher on the difference between weather and climate. As, "what the weather will do in 10 days" is not the same as climate predictions.
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
I would put the fault on the person who slipped false information to the President. Obviously the news makes up all sorts of lies such as global warming, another Ice age is just an example of that. Difference is which is the official lie. They don't know what the weather will do past 10 days...
Btw, climate change wasn't "made up" by the news. It was discovered by scientists. I'll assume you knew that and just made a mistake.
 

Kemosloby

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
You might need a refresher on the difference between weather and climate. As, "what the weather will do in 10 days" is not the same as climate predictions.

Right, that was for fun. Climate predictions wont get proved true or false until long after im dead, and that's how that works.
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
Btw, climate change wasn't "made up" by the news. It was discovered by scientists. I'll assume you knew that and just made a mistake.

No, it wasn't. It's pure speculation based on dubious models. The news media see the inane hysteria as a cash cow.
 

Kemosloby

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Btw, climate change wasn't "made up" by the news. It was discovered by scientists. I'll assume you knew that and just made a mistake.

No, it was dreamed up in some political/economic meeting and put to the leaders of the scientific community to come up with supporting arguments and documentation to support it.
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
Right, that was for fun. Climate predictions wont get proved true or false until long after im dead, and that's how that works.
That's why they are predictions. They are based on current evidence, past climate changes, and various mathematics that are beyond me. So, as I assume you already know, they aren't made up. They are based on evidence.
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
No, it wasn't. It's pure speculation based on dubious models. The news media see the inane hysteria as a cash cow.
Nope. It's based on current evidence, evidence from the past and predictions based on various scientific analyses. And, it was in no way "made up by the media". It was discovered by climate experts.
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
No, it was dreamed up in some political/economic meeting and put to the leaders of the scientific community to come up with supporting arguments and documentation to support it.
Enough of this, though. Let's stay on topic. I'm happy to discuss climate change in another thread.
 

Kemosloby

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
That's why they are predictions. They are based on current evidence, past climate changes, and various mathematics that are beyond me. So, as I assume you already know, they aren't made up. They are based on evidence.

Exactly, they baffle us with BS, to make us believe and fall inline with their political and economic agendas. Even our President has a hard time leading the country contrary to their agenda.
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
Exactly, they baffle us with BS, to make us believe and fall inline with their political and economic agendas. Even our President has a hard time leading the country contrary to their agenda.
Well, our President is not very intelligent and extremely ill informed. So, that explains that. The evidence for climate change is real, and it is easy to understand if you just take the time. But, enough of this. Please stay on topic.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
No, it wasn't. It's pure speculation based on dubious models. The news media see the inane hysteria as a cash cow.
What the media does is one thing - they do indeed sensationalize things to generate income or eyeballs. And the models are imperfect. But they're far FAR FAR from "pure speculation", aka guessing, but are based on what we know and are being refined.

We know that carbon is increasing. We know that increased CO2 in the atmosphere (along with methane etc) contributes to heat capture in the atmosphere. We know that the result will be a warming climate. We don't know with perfect precision how fast this will happen.
 

Kemosloby

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Well, our President is not very intelligent and extremely ill informed. So, that explains that. The evidence for climate change is real, and it is easy to understand if you just take the time. But, enough of this. Please stay on topic.

You just said yourself that you don't understand it. Maybe, because it is incomprehensible BS, which is the beauty of it. Nobody can comprehend it so everybody takes their word for it.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
You just said yourself that you don't understand it. Maybe, because it is incomprehensible BS, which is the beauty of it. Nobody can comprehend it so everybody takes their word for it.
The ability of people to say this, then confidently assert that Jesus rose from the dead for the Salvation of mankind, is mind boggling to me.
Tom
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
What the media does is one thing - they do indeed sensationalize things to generate income or eyeballs. And the models are imperfect. But they're far FAR FAR from "pure speculation", aka guessing, but are based on what we know and are being refined.

We know that carbon is increasing. We know that increased CO2 in the atmosphere (along with methane etc) contributes to heat capture in the atmosphere. We know that the result will be a warming climate. We don't know with perfect precision how fast this will happen.

If this were true why hasn't the troposphere heated up?
 
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