why was the word of God never revealed to non-middle easterners?

[Jeremy Mason]

Lets go back to Native Americans or Polynesians before they ever came into contact with the Europeans. none of them knew anything about God, Jesus, Abraham, Moses or Mohammad. there have been many civilizations in the past that were never sent a Divine scripture or prophet.
according to muslims, a prophet has been sent to every civilization. but that is simply not true. why is it that there is no evidence of such prophets being sent to Native Americans? if Islam is the true religion, why did God not send them with the same message? why did God/Allah keep this truth away from native Americans?

Where are my Mormon friends?

 

[GoodbyeDave]

You are basically left with two choices:
1) God is a poor communicator or we are poor listeners

God is infinite, we are finite, so naturally we can't take in the whole message. But (almost) all religions teach that the world depends on a holy and eternal reality with which we can relate, and that that relationship is our ultimate goal. I'd say that's enough to be going on with.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

God did send messengers/prophets to all peoples - that's one of the reasons all cultures have a concept of a deity.

Wrong. In some of the few hunter-gatherer tribes that exist, there is still primal animism and no concept of deity. For example:

Pirahã people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

However over the eons as cultures developed and changed so did their concepts of God and his attributes so that now we see them as different religions.

There is one God and if you get right back to the very basics all religions do teach the same thing - ie. strive to increase knowledge and understanding of self and God, and serve others to create harmonious, peaceful societies.
Even polytheistic religions have a concept of a supreme deity.

That is a blatant lie or at least a showing of great ignorance.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

That idea that there is one god who sent prophets to each people of the Earth is a propaganda tool used by certain religions to give themselves an air of validity. There's no truth in it at all.

 

[John Doe]

Can I just throw this in, It's actually kind of offensive to call them Aborigines.
They're Aboriginals.

And they know now, Do they not?

Aborigine is the noun, aboriginal is the adjective.

And, btw, it is way more offensive to write off their spiritual teachings as if they simply don't exist, or are merely 'primitive' - which is a disgustingly condescending view from a culture whose overwhelming ignorance has gone on to destroy the very ecosystem which supports them.

Most people know nothing about the spiritual teachings because ...

(a) they never asked -having already decided that aborigines were uneducated primitives, and being so brainwashed in their own missonary/imperialist religion that they were (and are) simply incapable of recognising the depth of the spiritual life of aboriginal people.

(b) the teachings were 'secret business' - also different for men and women. These teachings were not written down. Also, the practice of following 'dreaming tracks' across thousands of kilometers of country was fundamental to the way teaching was transmitted - each place along the way was associated with teaching stories of various kinds which went back for tens of thousands of years.

Unfortunately, the impact of the white christian invasion was brutal - the British selectively killed the teachers, the 'wise ones', which was a common kind of tactic from imperial powers to weaken the culture being destroyed.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Aborigine is the noun, aboriginal is the adjective.

And, btw, it is way more offensive to write off their spiritual teachings as if they simply don't exist, or are merely 'primitive' - which is a disgustingly condescending view from a culture whose overwhelming ignorance has gone on to destroy the very ecosystem which supports them.

Most people know nothing about the spiritual teachings because ...

(a) they never asked -having already decided that aborigines were uneducated primitives, and being so brainwashed in their own missonary/imperialist religion that they were (and are) simply incapable of recognising the depth of the spiritual life of aboriginal people.

(b) the teachings were 'secret business' - also different for men and women. These teachings were not written down. Also, the practice of following 'dreaming tracks' across thousands of kilometers of country was fundamental to the way teaching was transmitted - each place along the way was associated with teaching stories of various kinds which went back for tens of thousands of years.

Unfortunately, the impact of the white christian invasion was brutal - the British selectively killed the teachers, the 'wise ones', which was a common kind of tactic from imperial powers to weaken the culture being destroyed.

:clap :yes:

 

[Katzpur]

Where are my Mormon friends?

Here I am!!!

 

[Katzpur]

Lets go back to Native Americans or Polynesians before they ever came into contact with the Europeans. none of them knew anything about God, Jesus, Abraham, Moses or Mohammad. there have been many civilizations in the past that were never sent a Divine scripture or prophet.
according to muslims, a prophet has been sent to every civilization. but that is simply not true. why is it that there is no evidence of such prophets being sent to Native Americans? if Islam is the true religion, why did God not send them with the same message? why did God/Allah keep this truth away from native Americans?

The answer to your question is found in Mormonism. While we believe that the Bible is the word of God, we believe that God has said much more than has been assembled in that single volume and that He is still not through speaking to us. The Bible, of course, contains both the Old Testament and the New Testament, the New Testament being a witness to the divine mission of Jesus Christ. The Book of Mormon is yet another testament of Jesus Christ, another witness to His divinity and to His role as Savior of the world. It is the history, both religious and secular of several groups of people whom we believe we led by God to the American continent in ancient times. By far the largest portion of the book describes two civilizations, the Nephites and the Lamanites, who were both descendents of the House of Israel, and who lived on this continent between about 600 B.C. and 400 A.D. (Joseph Smith, I should mention at this time, was not the writer but the translator.)

When Jesus Christ spoke to his followers in the Holy Land, He is recorded in the Gospel of John as having said, “Other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.” Note: He said they would hear His voice, not merely His message as it would be relayed by others. He also said that His own personal mission was only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. So who were the “other sheep” of whom He spoke, people who were evidently not living in the Holy Land but who were, at the same time, of the house of Israel? We believe they were the people whose story is told in the Book of Mormon. After Christ’s resurrection, he stayed among his Apostles and others for a time. But, according to the Book of Mormon, before He returned to heaven where He now awaits the time of His Second Coming, He visited the people of ancient America. He established His Church here, teaching exactly the same gospel of love, forgiveness and mercy He had taught in the Holy Land.

The Book of Mormon is an account of a 1000-year history of some of the people of ancient America, and includes a number of chapters which describe in some detail Jesus Christ’s ministry among those people. It does not contradict or supplant anything in the Bible. Rather it complements and clarifies many of the doctrines to which the Bible alludes but is not entirely clear. Its purpose is literally to prove the Bible to be true, and, as stated on the title page of the book is “to the convincing of the Jew and Gentile that Jesus is the Christ.”

Here are a few verses from it, addressing the topic of your OP:

From 2 Nephi 29:7-11 "Know ye not that there are more nations than one? Know ye not that I, the Lord your God, have created all men, and that I remember those who are upon the isles of the sea; and that I rule in the heavens above and in the earth beneath; and I bring forth my word unto the children of men, yea, even upon all the nations of the earth?

Wherefore murmur ye, because that ye shall receive more of my word? Know ye not that the testimony of two nations is a witness unto you that I am God, that I remember one nation like unto another? Wherefore, I speak the same words unto one nation like unto another. And when the two nations shall run together the testimony of the two nations shall run together also.

And I do this that I may prove unto many that I am the same yesterday, today, and forever; and that I speak forth my words according to mine own pleasure. And because that I have spoken one word ye need not suppose that I cannot speak another; for my work is not yet finished; neither shall it be until the end of man, neither from that time henceforth and forever.

Wherefore, because that ye have a Bible ye need not suppose that it contains all my words; neither need ye suppose that I have not caused more to be written.

For I command all men, both in the east and in the west, and in the north, and in the south, and in the islands of the sea, that they shall write the words which I speak unto them; for out of the books which shall be written I will judge the world, every man according to their works, according to that which is written."

 

[atanu]

Lets go back to Native Americans or Polynesians before they ever came into contact with the Europeans. none of them knew anything about God, Jesus, Abraham, Moses or Mohammad. there have been many civilizations in the past that were never sent a Divine scripture or prophet.
according to muslims, a prophet has been sent to every civilization. but that is simply not true. why is it that there is no evidence of such prophets being sent to Native Americans? if Islam is the true religion, why did God not send them with the same message? why did God/Allah keep this truth away from native Americans?

Assuming that it is correct that God revealed His strict controlling parent aspect to certain people, may be those people needed such a God. ?????

 

[Breathe]

Wrong. In some of the few hunter-gatherer tribes that exist, there is still primal animism and no concept of deity. For example:

Pirahã people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Animism is regarded by some as a form of theism. The concept between spirit and deity is blurry at best. How do "álfar" and "kami" differ from a god? For that matter, how do jötnar, Titans, and other beings of a similar nature?

The closest answer is that they are gods, except when they are not gods. To call the Pirahã groups without a concept of deity, I feel, is extremely inaccurate to the people and to the term deity.

 

[zenzero]

Friend cocokorina,

why was the word of God never revealed to non-middle easterners?

Shall we conclude that God is unjust? or that their is no God?
Or whatever you feel best?

Jokes apart, we see that civilization started

In Western European and Middle Eastern cultures, it has frequently been applied to the Ancient Near Eastern Chalcolithic (Ubaid period, Naqada culture), especially in the Fertile Crescent (Mesopotamia and Levant) and Egypt, but also extended to sites in Asia Minor (Anatolia), Armenia[1] and the Iranian Plateau (Elam). Other civilizations arose in Asia, among cultures situated along large river valleys, notably the Indus River in the Indian Subcontinent[2] and the Yellow River in China.[3] Civilizations also arose independently in Egypt, Norte Chico in present-day Peru,[4] the Andes and in Mesoamerica. If writing is considered an indicator of civilization, the earliest "cradle" to have writing was Sumer (Jemdet Nasr) in Mesopotamia.

Surely religions would have more or less followed the same pattern.
Which Are the Oldest Religions in the World? (with pictures)

Its just a pattern and not about God or anything.

Love & rgds

 

[Sabour]

Every nation was sent a messenger

And for every Ummah (a community or a nation), there is a Messenger; when their Messenger comes, the matter will be judged between them with justice, and they will not be wronged. (Qur'ân 10:47)

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Animism is regarded by some as a form of theism. The concept between spirit and deity is blurry at best. How do "álfar" and "kami" differ from a god? For that matter, how do jötnar, Titans, and other beings of a similar nature?

The closest answer is that they are gods, except when they are not gods. To call the Pirahã groups without a concept of deity, I feel, is extremely inaccurate to the people and to the term deity.

Animism by itself is not a form of theism. You can believe in spirits but not have them set up in a hierarchy like you do with gods. According to religious anthropology, animism came first and concepts of theism came later. The Pirahã people are just primal animists.

I don't know why some people have an issue with the fact that not all cultures have concepts of deities. The Pirahã people don't seem to care about it much at all. They just focus on the right here and right now. So why would they care about deities?

 

[Breathe]

Animism by itself is not a form of theism. You can believe in spirits but not have them set up in a hierarchy like you do with gods. According to religious anthropology, animism came first and concepts of theism came later. The Pirahã people are just primal animists.

Not all gods have a hierarchy either; there is a blurry line between gods and spirits. Animistic 'spirits' are little different from gods, as one definition for a god is a preternatural agency, then spirits certainly fall into this field.

 

[Ingledsva]

That's kind of the point of my earlier post here.
The "true religion" was not meant for humankind, it was meant for a few select people. That's why it was only revealed to a few select people.

Then it was taken by other people who should not have had it. Then other people took it from those people.

LOL! True religion?


Every group with a religion thinks theirs is the "true" religion.



*

 

[SpeaksForTheTrees]

The native Americans where more " spiritualy " in touch than most imo.
See if there is a God then , why would it require we follow a religion and offer worship ?.
We have evidence that there might be a God we have a lot more evidence of if there is a God what he\it might be like .
To see what God might be like we must look at the "creation" exclude humans from your observation and what are you left with ?
I did not experience pre colonial native Americans culture for myself , read they could be quite barbaric amongst themselves , no different from any civilisation i guess, but believe they had spiritual belief and a respect for the way things are . They held things sacred had their own way of doing things .
After all scalping is no worse than ripping the skin from an animal to wear it .
Wear it to survive , forced to slaughter another sentient creature nearly equal to ourselves .
What a lovely place we all reside ..lol

 

[John Doe]

That's kind of the point of my earlier post here.
The "true religion" was not meant for humankind, it was meant for a few select people. That's why it was only revealed to a few select people.

Then it was taken by other people who should not have had it. Then other people took it from those people.

That must be the ugliest idea in the whole world of ugly religious ideas.

One can only imagine what other corollary ideas are cossetted with this one. I doubt that those other ideas would be openly admitted to. They would only be 'revealed to a few select people'. And closely guarded.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Not all gods have a hierarchy either; there is a blurry line between gods and spirits. Animistic 'spirits' are little different from gods, as one definition for a god is a preternatural agency, then spirits certainly fall into this field.

Well, if you're going to define a god so broadly, then ghosts are "gods". I believe that trees have spirits, but they're not gods. There's nothing that says that the Piraha people believe in any gods.

Not surprisingly, the Piraha have no stories about creation, the end of the world, gods or an afterlife at all. Their "spirits" are rather the same animal appearing in different forms and looking like a different animal each time it is seen. Far from being worshipped, those shapeshifting animals are not even considered any more important than ordinary animals. Although many missionaries have tried, not a single Piraha have ever been christened. In fact, the oldest written record about Piraha is the document in which the Jesuites declared that they gave up their attempts to christen the Piraha. That document is from the 1700s.

Piraha - Pure science Wiki

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

That must be the ugliest idea in the whole world of ugly religious ideas.

One can only imagine what other corollary ideas are cossetted with this one. I doubt that those other ideas would be openly admitted to. They would only be 'revealed to a few select people'. And closely guarded.

That's just another way of saying "god only cares about Jews". Ethnocentrism at its finest. You know, it wouldn't be so bad if Judaism admitted that it's just a tribal religion that's worshiping a tribal deity instead of making the claim that their god is the "one true god".

 

[Breathe]

Well, if you're going to define a god so broadly, then ghosts are "gods". I believe that trees have spirits, but they're not gods. There's nothing that says that the Piraha people believe in any gods.

And there's nothing that says that animism is not a form of primitive polytheism, or in their case, primitive polydeism.