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why we are keeping to destroy our planet?

kenny1999

Member
First of all I don't speak English very well. Hope you guy get what I mean if my expression looks weird.


I am always wondering why we are keeping to destroy our planet. It's undoubtedly the fact that global warming is so real and so true. I am not worrying about the death of the Sun because it will take much
much longer that we have little to worry.

I do not reject the possibility of having another beautiful planet with all the beautiful organisms like us in the million or billion light years away from us, but whether or not they exist it's very less important to us.

Our planet is very old but our culture is very new comparatively. But only the recent hundreds of years or decades we are living so well with all the wonderful technology and everything.I always believe, for the millions of years of our planet, we are now at the best of the time,

However, why it looks like nobody in the world is actually doing something to save our planet, reverse the damage, or at least slower down the damage. Yes there are lots of environmental communities that will help but we all know that they can actually do very little.

I believe we are now at the best of the time of our humanity but we are also at the worst of the time of our planet. Global warming and environmental issue are so real that I don't believe we can survive another hundreds of years if we do not do something.


I don't officially have a religion to believe but I have a strong faith in rebirth, because of my education ,and because of my experience and feeling towards life. I think we will come to our earth again after we die, I have a strong faith for it.

Why we are keeping to destroy our planet? Why there are so many selfish people in the world who are destroying our planet? Are there actually someone or party in our world doing something real, instead of endless political plays?
 

Terese

Mangalam Pundarikakshah
Staff member
Premium Member
It is profitable to gather resources to fuel empires. This is why many do this. They (materialists) do not care about the earth. Only profit for themselves. However solar energy, the banning of plastic bags and other options were born from concern from this. So it's not completely hopeless.
 

kenny1999

Member
It is profitable to gather resources to fuel empires. This is why many do this. They (materialists) do not care about the earth. Only profit for themselves. However solar energy, the banning of plastic bags and other options were born from concern from this. So it's not completely hopeless.

Really? Not completely hopeless?
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
First of all I don't speak English very well. Hope you guy get what I mean if my expression looks weird.


I am always wondering why we are keeping to destroy our planet. It's undoubtedly the fact that global warming is so real and so true. I am not worrying about the death of the Sun because it will take much
much longer that we have little to worry.

I do not reject the possibility of having another beautiful planet with all the beautiful organisms like us in the million or billion light years away from us, but whether or not they exist it's very less important to us.

Our planet is very old but our culture is very new comparatively. But only the recent hundreds of years or decades we are living so well with all the wonderful technology and everything.I always believe, for the millions of years of our planet, we are now at the best of the time,

However, why it looks like nobody in the world is actually doing something to save our planet, reverse the damage, or at least slower down the damage. Yes there are lots of environmental communities that will help but we all know that they can actually do very little.

I believe we are now at the best of the time of our humanity but we are also at the worst of the time of our planet. Global warming and environmental issue are so real that I don't believe we can survive another hundreds of years if we do not do something.


I don't officially have a religion to believe but I have a strong faith in rebirth, because of my education ,and because of my experience and feeling towards life. I think we will come to our earth again after we die, I have a strong faith for it.

Why we are keeping to destroy our planet? Why there are so many selfish people in the world who are destroying our planet? Are there actually someone or party in our world doing something real, instead of endless political plays?


The best thing about your thread is that none of this is happening. So, relax, take a deep breath, and have a cup of tea. Even if your fears were anyway justified, you have to remember we are not permanent on this dirt ball; so, again, relax,take a deep breath, and have a cup of tea.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
They (materialists) do not care about the earth.

I'm not sure what you mean by "materialists" in this context, but I will say there are plenty of religious people who do not care about the earth. For instance, Ronald Reagan appointed an Evangelical Christian as his Secretary of the Interior. The Secretary, James G. Watt, is said to have expressed the opinion that it did not matter how much we humans destroyed the environment since the return of Jesus was imminent and Jesus would give us a brand new world to live in when he came. I've heard other Evangelical Christians express the same view, although I don't think the view is universal among them.

In addition to views such as Watt's, you can find plenty of religious people who either deny that global climate change is largely caused by humans, or deny that global climate change is even happening. So, if by "materialist" you meant to imply that religious people are not sometimes guilty of indifference to the environment, then I think you might be somewhat mistaken.
 

SpeaksForTheTrees

Well-Known Member
Greed & Science are destroying the world , killing it slowly .
Science creates accidents and vast amounts of toxic waste products has the power in the WRONG hand to ultimately do more damage than Good.
Headtransplants maybe you can prolong it but even science must learn is a game they can not win.
 

Terese

Mangalam Pundarikakshah
Staff member
Premium Member
I'm not sure what you mean by "materialists" in this context, but I will say there are plenty of religious people who do not care about the earth. For instance, Ronald Reagan appointed an Evangelical Christian as his Secretary of the Interior. The Christian, James G. Watt, expressed the opinion that it did not matter how much we humans destroyed the environment since the return of Jesus was imminent and Jesus would give us a brand new world to live in when he came. I've heard other Evangelical Christians express the same view, although I don't think the view is universal among them.

In addition to views such as Watt's, you can find plenty of religious people who either deny that global climate change is largely caused by humans, or deny that global climate change is even happening. So, if by "materialist" you mean people who are not religious, then I think you might be mistaken somewhat.
Rather horrid view that secretary has. I mean materialistic as in one who values material objects over the spiritual.
 

SpeaksForTheTrees

Well-Known Member
Rather horrid view that secretary has. I mean materialistic as in one who values material objects over the spiritual.
Opportunists they are indeed.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opportunism
Opportunism is the conscious policy and practice of taking selfish advantage of circumstances.[1] Although human opportunism often has a strong negative (pejorative) moral connotation (in contrast to e.g. biological opportunism, used as a neutral scientific description), it may also be defined more neutrally as putting self-interest before other interests when there is an opportunity to do so, or flexibly adapting to changing circumstances to maximize self-interest (though usually in a way that negates some principle previously followed). Opportunism is sometimes also defined as the ability to capitalize on the mistakes of others: to utilize opportunities created by the errors, weaknesses or distractions of opponents to one's own advantage.[2]

Somewhat confusingly, opportunism is sometimes also redefined by businessmen simply as the theory of discovering and pursuing opportunities.[3]These businessmen are motivated by their dislike for the idea that there could ever be anything wrong with capitalizing on opportunities. According to this redefinition, "opportunism" is a euphemism for "entrepreneurship".

Taking a realistic or practical approach to a problem can involve "weak" forms of opportunism. For the sake of doing something that will work, or that successfully solves the problem, a previously agreed principle is knowingly compromised or disregarded - with the justification that alternative actions would, overall, have a worse effect.

Guilty but least I'm aware of it and just sometimes do allow an opportunity to pass simply to prevent creating the looser.
 
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Windwalker

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Why we are keeping to destroy our planet? Why there are so many selfish people in the world who are destroying our planet? Are there actually someone or party in our world doing something real, instead of endless political plays?
Personally I believe we are collectively committing suicide. It's not that we want to die, but we don't know how to live and so we choose self-destructive paths that lead to early death. Think of it like people who know they shouldn't eat fatty foods all day long, or smoke cigarettes, etc. They are in essence committing slow-suicide because they don't know who to live outside their addictions, outside their bad habits. They continue to do them rationalizing their self-destructive behaviors like, "Well, I've known people who smoked their whole lives and never died from cigarettes", or another rationalization such as, "How long do you really want to live anyway. I'd rather die happy than not eat the big juicy steak".

If you listen to the Climate Change Deniers, and compare this with the irrational rationalizations of overeaters or cigarette junkies, I think it becomes apparent that this is an existential question. No one wants to face in themselves that they actually have a death wish, but are too afraid to just do it quick. Instead they are choosing to just do it slowly over time, poisoning themselves while not having to face the reality of their own death wish. I believe it actually comes down to a spiritual crisis for the species. We do not know how to live as a self-aware species in the face of that self-awareness, and so we choose instead to not live.

One last thought. I believe that this taking ourselves to the edge of self-termination is what many of us do in our own path to spiritual awakening. We create a crisis, which leads to no choice at that point but to either awaken or die. We are forcing our hands to chose life over death, because we don't know how to break the cycle we have put ourselves on. We are creating a crisis for ourselves so we can awaken from it. We don't like it, but we don't know how to live so we self-terminate instead. We overeat until our bodies can no longer support us. We are addicting to eating because we want to die. Sadly sometimes people actually die instead because the trap for themselves they created was too great and overtook them. Hopefully that won't happen, but it might. Then nature continues its evolutionary experiment without us.
 
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Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
We're not destroying the planet. Humans are incapable of that.

Humans are, however, ecosystem engineers that are driving a sixth mass extinction. Sixth, meaning it's happened before, and while it's a travesty that humans are responsible for this one, it's nothing new. The planet will move on, and definitely still exist regardless of what humans do or don't do. That we value the current suite of biodiversity says more about us than it does about the planet; following every mass extinction event, evolution carries on and explodes with new forms of biodiversity.

Given humans are ecosystem engineers, as well as ecological generalists, it is highly unlikely that the global shifts will render the species extinct unless there is a perfect storm of events. What will happen is change - most probably, a shift back to low-impact lifestyles that Americans denigrate as "third world" and "impoverished." Basically, something like this will happen.
 

SpeaksForTheTrees

Well-Known Member
Uranium-238 : 4.47 BY
That mean this compound have half life of at least 4.47 x 35 billion years . wtf are humans doing in the name of science they more dangerous than religious people , period .
Is even more potent chemicals that are 14BY
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
Uranium-238 : 4.47 BY
That mean this compound have half life of at least 4.47 x 35 billion years . wtf are humans doing in the name of science they more dangerous than religious people , period .

You realize that "scientist" and "religious" often go together, right? Hi, by the way.
 

SpeaksForTheTrees

Well-Known Member
This is the Atomic age , we living it now . Only future history will reveal the consequences of some sciences, is to early to tell I know is a lot more cancer , hopefully humanity does reach its next golden age however the stakes are getting higher all the time.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Oh goodie, another "end is nigh" thread. People really need to get out more and do something meaningful with their lives.

Instead of whining and snivelling, DO SOMETHING! Be that lone guy in Tiananmen Square standing firm in the face of opposition. Exact change. Make it happen - if you truly care. You are not a victim in a world that is out to get you.
 
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