Why would anyone want the Christan God to be real?

[839311]

Most people are in hell, being tormented through unimaginable suffering.

You, however, are among the lucky few. But what is in store for you?

Not being able to trust a being who enjoys mercilessly tormenting others, you would live life in fear. The God of the bible is real. The same God who,

1) Flooded the world
2) Condoned genocide
3) The same God who had a son, only to have him crucified
4) Who tested Abraham's faith by telling him to kill his own son
5) Who allowed demons to prowl the world
6) Who allows natural disasters
7) Terrible health problems, like cancer and heart attacks
8) Condones slavery
9) Death sentences carried out by means of stoning
10) Holocaust
11) Has fits of rage
12) Job's suffering
13) Constantly demands worship and adoration

"Jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully." - Richard Dawkins

I just don't see how anyone would want to live under such a God. You would be afraid that at any time he might snap, and start tossing more people into hell. Its a terrible prospect.

Why would any reasonable person want to be in an afterlife with the God of the bible? Shouldn't believers be worried about this? I mean, just read the book. That gives you a good idea of what God is like. No reasonable person would want to live under such a God. To hope for a life in heaven would be to hope for a life of fear and forced worship, and probably future punishment - or worse, eternal torment.

 

[Rainbow Mage]

I agree with everything you just said. Frubals

 

[Eliot Wild]

Well, I certainly can't speak for anyone else, but I personally want the Christian God to be real because He has promised everyone who makes it to Heaven a new Chevy Corvette. Seriously. That is in the book of Isaiah, I think, or maybe it's Malachi.

 

[lunamoth]

Well, I certainly can't speak for anyone else, but I personally want the Christian God to be real because He has promised everyone who makes it to Heaven a new Chevy Corvette. Seriously. That is in the book of Isaiah, I think, or maybe it's Malachi.

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[9-10ths_Penguin]

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"In my house there are many mansions... but no garages" - Jesus (quoted from memory)



Edit: anyhow, everyone knows that God's preferred car is the Accord. Why do you think the apostles had one?

Edit 2: I get 10 hits for "Viper" in my Bible search and 95 for "Ram". Maybe God's actually a Dodge guy.

Edit 3: On second thought, no, not a Dodge guy:

Caravans turn aside from their routes;
they go off into the wasteland and perish.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

bo-ring

 

[Revoltingest]

Well, I certainly can't speak for anyone else, but I personally want the Christian God to be real because He has promised everyone who makes it to Heaven a new Chevy Corvette. Seriously. That is in the book of Isaiah, I think, or maybe it's Malachi.

This shows God's malice. There's no money in heaven, but the auto insurance on a Vette
is ungodly high. You'd have to leave it parked....but there's no parking in heaven. So
angels ride around on.....oh, the horror.....Segways.

 

[Eliot Wild]

Obviously, you good people, well-intentioned as you may be in correcting me, have not yet picked up your versions of the Holy Bible, General Motors Edition.

Clearly, it states right in Isaiah that every Christian who boweth before the Lord and accepts the Savior will get his or her choice of a Corvette or Cadillac. Now, go shout it from every mountain top and from the depths of every valley, that Jesus Christ is King ... and Dale Earnhardt and Bob Segar have been made Saints ... "Like a Rock"!!

 

[averageJOE]

Well, I certainly can't speak for anyone else, but I personally want the Christian God to be real because He has promised everyone who makes it to Heaven a new Chevy Corvette. Seriously. That is in the book of Isaiah, I think, or maybe it's Malachi.

That's your problem right there, it never meant a literal corvett to drive around heaven in! And you can't disprove it's non-literacy!

 

[lunamoth]

Obviously, you good people, well-intentioned as you may be in correcting me, have not yet picked up your versions of the Holy Bible, General Motors Edition.

Clearly, it states right in Isaiah that every Christian who boweth before the Lord and accepts the Savior will get his or her choice of a Corvette or Cadillac. Now, go shout it from every mountain top and from the depths of every valley, that Jesus Christ is King ... and Dale Earnhardt and Bob Segar have been made Saints ... "Like a Rock"!!

Hmmm ... you might want to ask for your money back.

 

[JustWondering]

Obviously, most christians do not view their god as a saddistic and homocidal tyrant. They believe that people punished by god had it coming. They believe god is fair and just. Proving otherwise to them is almost impossible. Since faith trumps reason.

 

[teddyrux]

Most people are in hell, being tormented through unimaginable suffering.

On what do you base this? Scripture discusses Hell as a real place but it does not say that those in Hell are tormented through unimaginable suffering.

You, however, are among the lucky few. But what is in store for you?

Christians get to spend eternity in the presence of the Holy Creator and glorifying Him forever.

Not being able to trust a being who enjoys mercilessly tormenting others, you would live life in fear. The God of the bible is real. The same God who,

1) Flooded the world
2) Condoned genocide
3) The same God who had a son, only to have him crucified
4) Who tested Abraham's faith by telling him to kill his own son
5) Who allowed demons to prowl the world
6) Who allows natural disasters
7) Terrible health problems, like cancer and heart attacks
8) Condones slavery
9) Death sentences carried out by means of stoning
10) Holocaust
11) Has fits of rage
12) Job's suffering
13) Constantly demands worship and adoration

During Job's suffering, did Job ever curse God?
Are the "evils" of this world the worst things that could happen? What if by allowing an "evil" to happen, like the holocaust, a greater good happens?

"Jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully." - Richard Dawkins

I just don't see how anyone would want to live under such a God. You would be afraid that at any time he might snap, and start tossing more people into hell. Its a terrible prospect.

Why would any reasonable person want to be in an afterlife with the God of the bible? Shouldn't believers be worried about this? I mean, just read the book. That gives you a good idea of what God is like. No reasonable person would want to live under such a God. To hope for a life in heaven would be to hope for a life of fear and forced worship, and probably future punishment - or worse, eternal torment.

The God of the Bible is a loving God who hates Sin. Your list of offenses are all a result of willful disobedience to the God's perfect law. If you would "just read the book" you would see that.

 

[asketikos]

Most people are in hell, being tormented through unimaginable suffering.

You, however, are among the lucky few. But what is in store for you?

Not being able to trust a being who enjoys mercilessly tormenting others, you would live life in fear. The God of the bible is real. The same God who,

1) Flooded the world
2) Condoned genocide
3) The same God who had a son, only to have him crucified
4) Who tested Abraham's faith by telling him to kill his own son
5) Who allowed demons to prowl the world
6) Who allows natural disasters
7) Terrible health problems, like cancer and heart attacks
8) Condones slavery
9) Death sentences carried out by means of stoning
10) Holocaust
11) Has fits of rage
12) Job's suffering
13) Constantly demands worship and adoration

"Jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully." - Richard Dawkins

I just don't see how anyone would want to live under such a God. You would be afraid that at any time he might snap, and start tossing more people into hell. Its a terrible prospect.

Why would any reasonable person want to be in an afterlife with the God of the bible? Shouldn't believers be worried about this? I mean, just read the book. That gives you a good idea of what God is like. No reasonable person would want to live under such a God. To hope for a life in heaven would be to hope for a life of fear and forced worship, and probably future punishment - or worse, eternal torment.

What a simplified, medieval concept of the Judeo-Christian God! This, I feel, is why people misunderstand Christianity.

 

[839311]

What a simplified, medieval concept of the Judeo-Christian God! This, I feel, is why people misunderstand Christianity.

And your concept is?

 

[839311]

Christians get to spend eternity in the presence of the Holy Creator and glorifying Him forever.

That doesn't sound like fun to me. Why would you want to glorify anything? Do you think God would want you hanging around all day praising him all the time? How much ***- kissing can a person stand? The same God, I say, who enjoys throwing people into hell. I wouldn't be surprised if heaven was just a joke to such a God, and he would simply throw everyone into hell.

What if by allowing an "evil" to happen, like the holocaust, a greater good happens?

Like what? What could justify the holocaust?

Your list of offenses are all a result of willful disobedience to the God's perfect law. If you would "just read the book" you would see that.

Perfect law? You mean how stoning is the preferred method of execution? Or that slavery is alright? Or that adulterers should be killed? Or what type of food you must eat?

Isn't it strange how a God, with infinite power, would design a world full of evil and suffering, and not intervene at all, except at the very end, where he will condemn most of humanity to an eternity in hell, having known in advance before he created them that most of them wouldn't meet his very high standards?

 

[RitalinO.D.]

What if by allowing an "evil" to happen, like the holocaust, a greater good happens?

You should be dropped off a cliff head first for saying that.


You say God is fair and just, yet say a greater good could possibly come from the massacre of 6 million jews. You sir are seriously not right in the head.

 

[McBell]

What a simplified, medieval concept of the Judeo-Christian God! This, I feel, is why people misunderstand Christianity.

Interesting.
When were the scriptures written?

 

[Penumbra]

Most people are in hell, being tormented through unimaginable suffering.

You, however, are among the lucky few. But what is in store for you?

Not being able to trust a being who enjoys mercilessly tormenting others, you would live life in fear. The God of the bible is real. The same God who,

1) Flooded the world
2) Condoned genocide
3) The same God who had a son, only to have him crucified
4) Who tested Abraham's faith by telling him to kill his own son
5) Who allowed demons to prowl the world
6) Who allows natural disasters
7) Terrible health problems, like cancer and heart attacks
8) Condones slavery
9) Death sentences carried out by means of stoning
10) Holocaust
11) Has fits of rage
12) Job's suffering
13) Constantly demands worship and adoration

"Jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully." - Richard Dawkins

I just don't see how anyone would want to live under such a God. You would be afraid that at any time he might snap, and start tossing more people into hell. Its a terrible prospect.

Why would any reasonable person want to be in an afterlife with the God of the bible? Shouldn't believers be worried about this? I mean, just read the book. That gives you a good idea of what God is like. No reasonable person would want to live under such a God. To hope for a life in heaven would be to hope for a life of fear and forced worship, and probably future punishment - or worse, eternal torment.

Generally, only a subset (but an unfortunately substantial minority) of Christians believe most of those things. The rest call it metaphorical genocide or whatever.

The conservative Christian view of god is rather ugly, with the more spiritual/liberal Christians being more tasteful. Most of their god descriptions still aren't very appealing or impressive to me, though.

The gods of most people correspond roughly to their own morality. Sick theists have sick gods, and nice people have nice gods. If a nice person has a sick god, they're going to have a lot of cognitive dissonance until their morality changes, or they adopt a more mature religious view, or they leave theism altogether.

 

[dust1n]

What a simplified, medieval concept of the Judeo-Christian God! This, I feel, is why people misunderstand Christianity.

I am curious as to which of those number points you think is incorrect. And why would the medieval concept misunderstanding Christianity? The simplified, modern concept of the Judeo-Christian is directly rooted in the medieval concept and in fact could not exist without it.

 

[asketikos]

I am curious as to which of those number points you think is incorrect. And why would the medieval concept misunderstanding Christianity? The simplified, modern concept of the Judeo-Christian is directly rooted in the medieval concept and in fact could not exist without it.

Firstly, it is a medieval interpretation because it takes the Old Testament literally. Obviously the world was not created in a several days, you have to understand the context and the time period that the scriptures were written by the patriarchs.

An educated, well-learned Christian, who does not just reference the Bible but who also reads about the history of the time and the philosophies of the time, can understand that the Bible - though the inspiration of God - is not the word of God - God did not dictate the bible, as for example to Muhammad in the Qoran - but the people who wrote scripture were inspired by the divine to write it, therefore they wrote it in the contexts, concepts, and anecdotes familiar and completely in sync with the framework of spirituality at the that time.

Of course our concepts of scripture and the supernatural have roots in ancient times, but scripture, and the construct and concept of religion evolves, changes to the times. The concept of God is interpretative, depending on the denomination, and interpretation.

Without a thorough knowledge of the Bible, and if one takes a juvenile literalist approach, then we are left with someone who has a lack not only of the compassionate, transcendent, and beautiful concept of man and the supernatural, but someone who is ignorant of an ancient literary style.

P.S. Dawkins thesis of arguing against "God" is rather incorrect, in that he is arguing against organized religion - hence the list of offenses done in the name of religion.