Brian2
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Well, we can say with a certain confidence that for the vast majority of humans, Jesus suffered for nothing. Because only a minority had the luxury to be born in a Gospel area, and get old enough to accept that gift.
And as I said, that gift requires an additional requirement that it was not necessary for all those people not knowing. Therefore, it is detrimental towards salvation. It is a gift, but only if we interpret the word "Gift" as a German word.
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- viole
That might be where the choice of God comes in. Those who accept Jesus are what the NT calls the firstfruits of the Spirit. That is a gift of God and it obviously it does not reach everyone.
We don't know how many of the rest will be saved and with those who accept the Gospel it needs to be a sincere acceptance that leads to change and works of love in a life.
Any one else who is saved should also be grateful (just as a Christian should) because we are all condemned by God as sinners because we all sin and do not deserve eternal life.
We know that it is not just Christians who are righteous and many are more righteous in their deeds that many Christians and God knows that and that people just did not have a chance to hear let alone accept the gospel. This is the same with people who lived before Jesus also.
Just as people can fulfil the requirements of the law of Moses even if they did not have the law (Romans 2:14) so people would be able to do that with the gospel requirements, at least as much as what many Christians have, so imo and hope, there will be many who are saved through that. Many also only know of what religion they have been taught and so are faithful to that and even if it is wrong they have shown they can be faithful to God.
I don't know about atheists, because the scriptures say that without faith it is impossible to please God. (Heb 11:6) Maybe that is just for this life.
God understands the problems with having faith however when there is so much around us which is against faith in God and there is nothing in the Bible as far as I know, which relegates atheists to condemnation because of lack of belief. So with any luck you have a fighting chance. Let's hope so. Atheists can be morally better than many religious people imo,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,but of course it is not up to me.