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Will Atheism Ever Be The Dominant Religion?

Jumi

Well-Known Member
You mean some kind of atheism with beliefs added in? So far generic atheism isn't a religion any more than generic theism is.
 

bobhikes

Nondetermined
Premium Member
If an emotion isn't logical, isn't it best to try to shake it or ignore it? I, for example, suffer from clinical depression. Many times I feel so terrible that I can't get myself out of bed, dreading to do anything but sleep. But, it is always best for me to ignore that emotion (sadness, emptiness, etc.) and get moving. For, once I get moving and doing my thing, the bad emotion/feelings tend to dissipate.
I am sorry for your suffering and you should do what works. Humans however are emotional and will never be able to fully remove them and logic does not always help. For some (wives) logic (from husband) can make the emotions worse.

I had a breakdown were I quit my job because I had bottled up my emotions for years and they came back all at once. Every one deals with emotions differently.
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
If you kill yourself all your worries and negative feelings will go away, also once dead you'll no longer have regret for any good that may be missed. Suicide is a very logical and rational conclusion.
That's not true. You are assuming that having no worries, feelings, thoughts or existence in general (a.k.a. being dead) is better than having depression but being alive. Depression is not logical. It seems inescapable, but the evidence says otherwise. The logical choice is to seek help, medication, etc. and learn to live a fulfilling life. Ending your life (or giving into depression and giving up completely) is not logical, as the evidence says that depression can be defeated.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
atheists will place themselves in the position of god, they will think they know everything because of science, the human race will deteriorate.
I can see it now ...

Pope Richard the 1st
Archbishop Sam of Harris
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
For some (wives) logic (from husband) can make the emotions worse.
That is true, due to negative feelings, frustration, anger, animosity, etc. But, that doesn't mean that logic cannot fix the issue. Maybe the wife could talk it out with a trusted friend or sibling. If that helped, it would be the logical thing to do the next time.
I had a breakdown were I quit my job because I had bottled up my emotions for years and they came back all at once. Every one deals with emotions differently.
That's true. But, there are better and worse ways of dealing with situations. And, logic is the basis for how productive an option might be.
 

Cobol

Code Jockey
Will Atheism ever be the dominant religion?

For some strange reason, many people keep getting the idea that atheism is itself some sort of religion. Atheism is a disbelief, not a philosophy. Maybe it is because these people are so caught up in their own religious beliefs that they cannot imagine any person living without religion of some sort. Maybe it is due to some persistent misunderstanding of what atheism is. And maybe they just don't care that what they are saying really doesn't make any sense.

Atheism clearly has no defined rules. Not in the least. There is only one "rule," and that is the rule of the - not having any belief in any. Atheists certainly have philosophies by which they live. A popular philosophy might be secular humanism. Another might be objectivism. There is not, however, a clearly defined philosophy common to all or even most atheists. In fact, there is nothing inherent in the disbelief in god(s) which leads a person to even have a philosophy of life. Quite the opposite of how philosophy of life is treated in a religion. A philosophy of life is not necessarily a religion and it doesn't necessitate that a religious belief exists in the person with the philosophy.
 

bobhikes

Nondetermined
Premium Member
That is true, due to negative feelings, frustration, anger, animosity, etc. But, that doesn't mean that logic cannot fix the issue. Maybe the wife could talk it out with a trusted friend or sibling. If that helped, it would be the logical thing to do the next time.
That's true. But, there are better and worse ways of dealing with situations. And, logic is the basis for how productive an option might be.

OK
 
Will Atheism ever be the dominant religion?

Human society will always have a diversity of ideologies/religions. No belief system will ever be universal or even close to it.

Were there a significant rise in atheistic ideologies worldwide, they would not all resemble Western Secular Humanism, despite what many Western Secular Humanists seem to believe.
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
Atheists love to dominate other people, but it takes more faith to be an atheist than to believe in God, so no.
Not true. Agnosticism (a form of atheism) takes absolutely no faith. It consists of merely withholding judgment due to lack of evidence for and against. But, since they lack belief in the existence of deities, they are atheists.
 

bobhikes

Nondetermined
Premium Member
Not true. Agnosticism (a form of atheism) takes absolutely no faith. It consists of merely withholding judgment due to lack of evidence for and against. But, since they lack belief in the existence of deities, they are atheists.

As an Agnostic that's not fully true. While I'll agree you can neither prove or disprove god, personally I am a theist. I know many other agnostic's like me.
 

Jesster

Friendly skeptic
Premium Member
It's not a religion. It also has no prophets. I can't really tell you what the future will be like. All I can really hope for is less discrimination against atheists and more secular focuses in governments. That would be good enough for me.
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
As an Agnostic that's not fully true. While I'll agree you can neither prove or disprove god, personally I am a theist. I know many other agnostic's like me.
I mean in the modern sense of the term "agnosticism" (neither belief nor disbelief in the existence of God or gods), not in the "knowledge of God is impossible" sense. But, I agree with what you said.
 

corynski

Reality First!
Premium Member
Will Atheism ever be the dominant religion?
Atheism is not a religion, but the notion persists. There is no atheist world organization that desires political power to my knowledge, and there is no structure of atheism that would allow organization on a large scale. It could become that perhaps one day, I suppose, if there is a sudden desire for reality on the part of the masses of people in the world.

I'd guess reality concerns atheists most, and religion and belief are not perceived as real or progressive. There is simply no evidence..... Jesus has not come back. While science looks forward to the unknown, religions look backwards to what the originators decided was reality, even centuries before. Ferdinand Magellan said: "The church says the earth is flat, but I know that it is round, for I have seen its shadow on the moon, and I have more faith in a shadow than in the church."
 

Jeremiahcp

Well-Known Jerk
Atheism is not a religion, but the notion persists. There is no atheist world organization that desires political power to my knowledge, and there is no structure of atheism that would allow organization on a large scale. It could become that perhaps one day, I suppose, if there is a sudden desire for reality on the part of the masses of people in the world.

I'd guess reality concerns atheists most, and religion and belief are not perceived as real or progressive. There is simply no evidence..... Jesus has not come back. While science looks forward to the unknown, religions look backwards to what the originators decided was reality, even centuries before. Ferdinand Magellan said: "The church says the earth is flat, but I know that it is round, for I have seen its shadow on the moon, and I have more faith in a shadow than in the church."

"Jesus has not come back."

Says who? Got proof? How do you know Jesus is not just some guy working in a record store?

 
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