Will Biden Step Down?

[esmith]

It seems that the call for Biden to step down is continuing to grow among the Democrats.

So the questions are, will he, or will he be forced out at the convention or run?
I see the first option as a remote possibility, the second as highly unlikely and the third as most likley .
In any case, including Biden running, the Democrats have problems.
Option one: Biden stepping down.
This would mean Kamala would be the most likely candidate. Kamala is not liked among most voters as seen in the primary.
However if they pick a different candidate this would not set well with voters due to the image of the Democrats being anti-democracy going against the 2020 vote of the country.
Option two: Biden being forced out.
This would exacerbate the problems in option one.
Option 3: Biden running
The consensus is that Biden would lose the election and even a possibility of suffering a landslide defeat

Of course all of the is strictly my opinion.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

It is a shame that the Democrats lack the spine to stand behind the man they selected as their candidate during the primaries, so recently -- but it is what it is: they lack spine, they want to throw him under the bus.

If that is the case, then I would really want Biden to understand the need for him to put the nation first, himself second. I believe that the only way that the Democrats could get Kamala Harris elected (other than to get behind Biden, and let nature take its course) is for him to not only suspend his campaign, but to resign the Presidency as well. If he did that, Harris could run as an incumbent -- which would significantly increase her electability. And give her a bully pulpit from which to preach her message.

Not only that, Biden would also have to instruct his delegates to change their vote to Harris.

That's what I wish -- it seems to me the only way to keep Trump out of the White House. Do I think he'll do it? I'm unsure, but he's a stubborn man, so I don't really think so.

 

[Subduction Zone]

It is a shame that the Democrats lack the spine to stand behind the man they selected as their candidate during the primaries, so recently -- but it is what it is: they lack spine, they want to throw him under the bus.

If that is the case, then I would really want Biden to understand the need for him to put the nation first, himself second. I believe that the only way that the Democrats could get Kamala Harris elected (other than to get behind Biden, and let nature take its course) is for him to not only suspend his campaign, but to resign the Presidency as well. If he did that, Harris could run as an incumbent -- which would significantly increase her electability. And give her a bully pulpit from which to preach her message.

Not only that, Biden would also have to instruct his delegates to change their vote to Harris.

That's what I wish -- it seems to me the only way to keep Trump out of the White House. Do I think he'll do it? I'm unsure, but he's a stubborn man, so I don't really think so.

Yes, I think that Biden still could be a very effective President because he understands the obvious. The President is not a king and relies upon his staff in countless ways. That is one of the reasons that Trump was not a totally unmitigated disaster in his first (and hopefully only) administration, though he is taking steps to change that. People that work in government full time did their job for America in spite of the orange colored one.

 

[F1fan]

What is also bad is that Biden's bad debate performance has led to all sorts of headlines about what Democrats are doing and will do in regards to Biden, which just keeps the issue alive in the minds of voters. Meanwhile Trump and project 2025 are getting little coverage. Trump is being oddly quiet, which is surely what his campaign told him to do so the media will focus on Biden.

Biden is committed to run, for better or worse. The campaign needs to emphasize a ticket and platform, not Biden as an individual. Democrats need to get behind Biden/Harris 100% and support the plan for the next 4 years, and why Trump is unfit as an individual, and his ideas completely undemoocratic and even dangerous to the future.

The good news is that it's still very early in the campaign, and many are not paying attention. It's summer and people are busy doing summer things. Once fall kicks in and the election nears the voters will start looking at what the candidates offer. The project 2025 agenda is enough for voters to reject Trump. Biden being old and Harris as vp is not really a big issue when voters understand what Trump will do to the USA if elected. I'm not sure how Trump can justify anything he promises to do if elected again, as it only appeals to a minority of citizens who have developed a sickness.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

In large part, even the Democrat-friendly media is harpooning Biden, by continually harping on this single issue. Fox can just sit back and let CNN and MSNBC do the job for them. That's really disheartening, and one would think they'd know better.

 

[metis]

I think Biden has to stick this out because the alternative likely would likely hand the election over to Trump.

Also, I don't much worry about Biden's condition because of his backups--Kamala and Jill. Remember Wilson and Reagan were seriously mentally challenged in their 2nd term, and yet we survived. However, I don't think our representative democracy would likely survive a 2nd term of Trump.

 

[Yerda]

I expect he'll continue. Trump might win by default at this rate.

 

[Twilight Hue]

It seems that the call for Biden to step down is continuing to grow among the Democrats.

So the questions are, will he, or will he be forced out at the convention or run?
I see the first option as a remote possibility, the second as highly unlikely and the third as most likley .
In any case, including Biden running, the Democrats have problems.
Option one: Biden stepping down.
This would mean Kamala would be the most likely candidate. Kamala is not liked among most voters as seen in the primary.
However if they pick a different candidate this would not set well with voters due to the image of the Democrats being anti-democracy going against the 2020 vote of the country.
Option two: Biden being forced out.
This would exacerbate the problems in option one.
Option 3: Biden running
The consensus is that Biden would lose the election and even a possibility of suffering a landslide defeat

Of course all of the is strictly my opinion.

Biden is easily controllable and they can make him say or do just about anything they want behind the scenes, so I don't think he's going to step down at all.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

I think Biden has to stick this out because the alternative likely would likely hand the election over to Trump.

Also, I don't much worry about Biden's condition because of his backups--Kamala and Jill. Remember Wilson and Reagan were seriously mentally challenged in their 2nd term, and yet we survived. However, I don't think our representative democracy would likely survive a 2nd term of Trump.

I couldn't agree more. And I still can't stress often enough how little time is left before November.

And I wish people would not forget that, if Biden wins and at some point cannot continue, then Kamala Harris -- the most likely to be able to replace Biden in the campaign -- would replace him as President.

And I also wish that people would consider that, while Biden might not be the genius in the Oval Office or Situation Room, he will be surrounded by very good people, some of them pretty intelligent themselves, to whom he can add the steadying hand of experience. And that's not nothing!

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

The other thing I really wish is that everybody who is calling for Biden to be tested for neurological decline make the same demand for Trump.

Who here can tell us what his long digression into whether he'd rather be electrocuted by a boat battery or attacked by a shark was all about? Trump supporters everywhere -- including here! -- do not discuss that very bizarre digression. Why not? Well, because of course they don't want to have the conversation about Trump that they're relishing about Biden.

And while we're at it, let's get those neurologists to examine what's inside each of those men -- what do they really care about? How does anyone think that Trump would fare against Biden in such an assessment? (Hint: look at his history.)

 

[Ebionite]

Hunter Biden’s ‘laptop from hell‘ containing child rape videos is real and has not been tampered with, an FBI witness testified during Hunter’s trial Wednesday"

FBI: ‘Sickening’ Child Rape Videos on Hunter Biden’s Laptop Are Real

Hunter Biden’s ‘laptop from hell‘ containing child rape videos is real and has not been tampered with, an FBI witness testified during Hunter’s trial

www.thaimbc.com

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Hunter Biden’s ‘laptop from hell‘ containing child rape videos is real and has not been tampered with, an FBI witness testified during Hunter’s trial Wednesday"

FBI: ‘Sickening’ Child Rape Videos on Hunter Biden’s Laptop Are Real

Hunter Biden’s ‘laptop from hell‘ containing child rape videos is real and has not been tampered with, an FBI witness testified during Hunter’s trial

www.thaimbc.com

Sorry, this is a political thread, and in particular about whether President Biden will not continue to run.

Is Hunter running for political office? Does anything about his activities have any bearing on whether Biden will continue his candidacy?

In other words, what was your reason for posting that here?

 

[tytlyf]

Option 3: Biden running
The consensus is that Biden would lose the election and even a possibility of suffering a landslide defeat

Losing isn't the consensus.

Of course all of the is strictly my opinion.

The opinion of conservative media. You're just the parrot.

 

[Ebionite]

Does anything about his activities have any bearing on whether Biden will continue his candidacy?

Arguably bad press for the family is a reason to abandon candidacy.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

It seems that the call for Biden to step down is continuing to grow among the Democrats.

So the questions are, will he, or will he be forced out at the convention or run?
I see the first option as a remote possibility, the second as highly unlikely and the third as most likley .
In any case, including Biden running, the Democrats have problems.
Option one: Biden stepping down.
This would mean Kamala would be the most likely candidate. Kamala is not liked among most voters as seen in the primary.
However if they pick a different candidate this would not set well with voters due to the image of the Democrats being anti-democracy going against the 2020 vote of the country.
Option two: Biden being forced out.
This would exacerbate the problems in option one.
Option 3: Biden running
The consensus is that Biden would lose the election and even a possibility of suffering a landslide defeat

Of course all of the is strictly my opinion.

Biden and Jill seem pretty defiant. He called into MSNBC this morning and was emphatic he was running and going to beat Trump. What is best for Biden and the country is Kamala starting the process of the 25th amendment to remove Joe. It is clear Biden cannot be president today. If that happens I don't know what happens to Bidens delegates. But the Dem party will do what the Dem party does and will do what is the best interest of the party and the country second.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

It is clear Biden cannot be president today.

How is that clear?

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

This would mean Kamala would be the most likely candidate. Kamala is not liked among most voters as seen in the primary.

What a thoughtful, objective assertion!

 

[metis]

Arguably bad press for the family is a reason to abandon candidacy.

That's so utterly illogical and immoral. Hunter is not Joe.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Arguably bad press for the family is a reason to abandon candidacy.

What a strange thing -- wouldn't want to vote for somebody who has a family member who isn't perfect, so let's instead vote for somebody who we know is a real crook, and has been convicted of it!

 

[esmith]

What a thoughtful, objective assertion!

You mean against the possibly first DEI president.
Then definitely a objective vice subjective observation