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Will Iran attack Israel ?

Reverend Rick

Frubal Whore
Premium Member
i am well aware that Iran's government isnt anything nice, but reality is reality.
And yet you defend them if not downright condone them. At the very least you are a sympathiser.
so, again, whats your point? what have we accomplished with our aggression?

Our country has not been attacked again. We have made the world safer by removing a large portion of the Taliban and Al Qaeda.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
it is said Ahmedinejad is a Jew. He is going to play the second Hitler of 3rd WW. Iran is takin technology to build nuclear weapons from Israel. There are some European scientists who fly to Iran and Western governments know they are working for Iran but they would not do anything about it. Cos they all know those nukes are not built for Israel. they know Iranian government is playing double and they would not hit Israel. that's not the purpose, never was. Ahmedinejad's purpose is to eliminate Islam.





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I have heard this claim but Ahmadinejads purpose is to eliminate Israel not Islam,just look at the support Iran gives to Hamas and Hezbollah.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
There can be no doubt that Ahmadinejad intends to attack Israel,he has said so enough times but he would have to do it reasonably soon as i cannot see him being in power for too much longer,i hope not anyway.
 

JMorris

Democratic Socialist
And yet you defend them if not downright condone them. At the very least you are a sympathiser.

in what way does that make me a sympathizer? how exactly does pointing out logical conclusions to american aggression make me a sympathizer? i understand the dislike of logic, particularly if it concludes to something you dont want to hear, but i dont understand how pointing it out makes me a sympathizer. i condone nothing, i simply point out that any country that feels threatened by america, and has the capability, will seek nuclear weapons, as there is a historic precedent that that is the only way to deter american military aggression. i understand why you wouldnt want to acknowledge that. im sure you enjoy reading stories about how we bomb one country, assassinate another countries leader, overthrow some other countries government (democracy or not), or how right wing latin american death squads trained and funded by US wipe out another village. and how ALL that, might lead some nations to seek nuclear weapons to deter such attacks. but hey, whatever gets you off.

Our country has not been attacked again. We have made the world safer by removing a large portion of the Taliban and Al Qaeda.
removed them from power in afghanistan maybe, but not from anything else. ive never had any criticism of the war in afghanistan, we were attacked, on this rare occasion, our attacking of the country was valid. and how much safer the world is debatable. safer for whom? us? maybe, for Iraqis? not at all.
 
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Caladan

Agnostic Pantheist
it is said Ahmedinejad is a Jew. He is going to play the second Hitler of 3rd WW. Iran is takin technology to build nuclear weapons from Israel. There are some European scientists who fly to Iran and Western governments know they are working for Iran but they would not do anything about it. Cos they all know those nukes are not built for Israel. they know Iranian government is playing double and they would not hit Israel. that's not the purpose, never was. Ahmedinejad's purpose is to eliminate Islam.





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Is he one of the 'Satanic Jews' you previously mentioned? :rolleyes:
 

Alceste

Vagabond
There can be no doubt that Ahmadinejad intends to attack Israel,he has said so enough times but he would have to do it reasonably soon as i cannot see him being in power for too much longer,i hope not anyway.

Please provide one single example (with references) of Ahmedinejad stating he plans / wishes / desires to launch a military first strike on Israel. (No, "Israel should be wiped off the map" and similar statements don't count - they are opinions, not an explicit pledge of actual, real-world violence).
 

Metempsychosis

Reincarnation of 'Anti-religion'
Iran is reckless and probably Israel is equally reckless.I cant understand how a religion can be associated with a country.Its illogical.
 

Caladan

Agnostic Pantheist
Iran is reckless and probably Israel is equally reckless.I cant understand how a religion can be associated with a country.Its illogical.
Perhaps you are right, in which case its more relevant to nations like Iran, and perhaps on some levels the USA, who are both very religious nations.
In what ways is Israel reckless? it does not shoots its citizens in the street, nor does it executes gays, or suppress women. like the nations around it. Israel is unique in the region, in that it is a normal nation, with a free press and a functioning democracy.
 

JMorris

Democratic Socialist
Perhaps you are right, in which case its more relevant to nations like Iran, and perhaps on some levels the USA, who are both very religious nations.
In what ways is Israel reckless? it does not shoots its citizens in the street, nor does it executes gays, or suppress women. like the nations around it. Israel is unique in the region, in that it is a normal nation, with a free press and a functioning democracy.

while not disagreeing with you that Israel has a far better gov in general, the idea that they dont shoot citizens in the street simply isnt true. well....... maybe they dont shoot their own citizens, but they do shoot palestinian citizens.

Israeli–Palestinian conflict - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

Metempsychosis

Reincarnation of 'Anti-religion'
Many Muslim Nations are reckless against other religions.I accept that Isreal has liberal government but it uses reckless foreign policy esp.against the Muslim ones.

I dont know how "religious" USA(I have nothing to with this country nor with the muslim ones either) is,but I know that religions have nothing to do with a region or in political policy.

Everyone know that Israel hit mosquito with baseball bats.


Deaths Injuries
Palestinians Israelis Palestinians Israelis
1754 (309) 117 (12) 6297 (864) 1183 (14)

There is thin line between self-defense and aggression.Iran is lesser power and expecting that attack Israel is foolish,how much ever they talk about it.
 
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MissAlice

Well-Known Member
More likely....Iran will be attacked since Israel is supported by the U.S. and gets to have weapons of mass destruction.
 

JMorris

Democratic Socialist
Oh come now, it is not like Hamas, the "Palestinian Authority" or Fatah are interested in serious negotiations.

Hamas, no; they've not shown any interest in negotiations. But the PA, and Fatah as a part of the PA do. and they do negotiate. when we're talking about the situation in Gaza, this only involves Hamas, the PA & Fatah have no power there.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Hamas, no; they've not shown any interest in negotiations. But the PA, and Fatah as a part of the PA do. and they do negotiate. when we're talking about the situation in Gaza, this only involves Hamas, the PA & Fatah have no power there.
... and ...
 

JMorris

Democratic Socialist
... and ...

.....and your assertion that PA & Fatah are not interested in "serious negotiations" isnt true. and to imply that carpet bombing is the only realistic solution for Gaza, being that it is under the control of Hamas; simply isnt sane. To say one extreme or the other are the only possible answers (tea and cookies-carpet bombing) isnt true. and to blame the entire Israeli-Palestinian Conflict on the Palestinians; isnt honest.

this idea, that somehow, Palestinian atrocities are the only ones ever committed, is not true. an honest observer will see that Israel has committed a number of their own. and the Palestinian grievances (not all of them) with Israel have merit.

the world isnt black and white. Israel isnt all good, and Palestinians arent all evil. both have committed crimes, both have done more to further the violence than the end it. it just so happens, that Israel is far stronger, and they have killed far more Palestinians than the contrary. it just so happens that Israel has the West Bank honey-combed with settlements and walls. making it illegal, in many cases, for a Palestinian to cross a street.

the Palestinians arent the only ones with ground to give on the issue.
 
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