Will you condemn “Great Replacement Theory”?

[fantome profane]

Buffalo shooting puts spotlight on GOP and Great Replacement Theory

It is time now for everyone to clearly and publicly denounce this dangerous rhetoric. Some of you may feel this is obvious and should “go without saying”, but the time for that is over. Some may not understand, it is time to get educated. Some of you might just want to be obstinate because you think this is “political”, the time for that nonsense is over.

Please vote in the poll.

 

[Estro Felino]

Both the American Left and the American Right condemn domestic terrorism, especially if motivated by racism.

 

[Secret Chief]

Condemn racism? That was a tough call.

 

[fantome profane]

Both the American Left and the American Right condemn domestic terrorism, especially if motivated by racism.

Right, it is not and shouldn’t be a political issue. It should be condemn by everyone.

But you will not condemn it. Why?

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

I unequivocally condemn white supremacy and the so called “white replacement theory”!

No, I am against it, but the next problem starts with what to do about, so yes. We should do something about, but take pause and consider what we do and how we do it.

 

[fantome profane]

I unequivocally condemn white supremacy and the so called “white replacement theory”!

No, I am against it, but the next problem starts with what to do about, so yes. We should do something about, but take pause and consider what we do and how we do it.

And what should we do? Should politicians who promote white replacements theory be voted out of office? Should pundits who promote it be called out and criticized? Should there be protests?

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

And what should we do? Should politicians who promote white replacements theory be voted out of office? Should pundits who promote it be called out and criticized? Should there be protests?

Well, there are no quick answer to that, but as long as your action don't turn into hate or in effect declare them non-humans, do what you can do within the civil society. How you do that is you up to you.

 

[fantome profane]

Well, there are no quick answer to that, but as long as your action don't turn into hate or in effect declare them non-humans, do what you can do within the civil society. How you do that is you up to you.

This idea of white supremacy has no place in civil society. There can be no civil society if this is allowed to flourish.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

This idea of white supremacy has no place in civil society. There can be no civil society if this is allowed to flourish.

Correct, but from there doesn't follow what should be done.

 

[Augustus]

Please vote in the poll.

What do you actually mean by "Do you condemn Great Replacement Theory?"

For example, is someone says "excessive immigration may lead to a fundamental change in the character of a nation and a lack of social cohesion and is thus not desirable", is that 'GRT'?

What makes something GRT rather than a good-faith and non-racist political preference?

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

What do you actually mean by "Do you condemn Great Replacement Theory?"

For example, is someone says "excessive immigration may lead to a fundamental change in the character of a nation and a lack of social cohesion and is thus not desirable", is that 'GRT'?

What makes something GRT rather than a good-faith and non-racist political preference?

Yeah, I struggled to phrase that, but as always you could do it.

 

[fantome profane]

What do you actually mean by "Do you condemn Great Replacement Theory?"

For example, is someone says "excessive immigration may lead to a fundamental change in the character of a nation and a lack of social cohesion and is thus not desirable", is that 'GRT'?

What makes something GRT rather than a good-faith and non-racist political preference?

If you hold a preference for an idea, a philosophy, a policy that is a political preference.

If you hold a preference for a “race” of people that is not a good faith political preference.

If you believe your political ideas a better, convince people and get votes. You don’t pick up a gun and go shoot people in a supermarket.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

If you hold a preference for an idea, a philosophy, a policy that is a political preference.

If you hold a preference for a “race” of people that is not a good faith political preference.

If you believe your political ideas a better, convince people and get votes. You don’t pick up a gun and go shoot people in a supermarket.

Yeah, but if you don't watch out, if I talk about culture and not race, you could claim I am talking about race without actually doing that.

 

[joe1776]

And what should we do? Should politicians who promote white replacements theory be voted out of office? Should pundits who promote it be called out and criticized? Should there be protests?

We should ignore it. Treat the racists like trolls. The worst fate they can encounter is to be ignored because it signals that their schtick isn't even worthy of a negative response.

 

[fantome profane]

Yeah, but if you don't watch out, if I talk about culture and not race, you could claim I am talking about race without actually doing that.

That doesn’t matter to me. I don’t believe bigotry is anymore acceptable when expressed against people because they speak a different language, or like different food.

 

[fantome profane]

We should ignore it. Treat the racists like trolls. The worst fate they can encounter is to be ignored because it signals that their schtick isn't even worthy of a negative response.

How has that worked out?

 

[Estro Felino]

But you will not condemn it. Why?

I do.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

That doesn’t matter to me. I don’t believe bigotry is anymore acceptable when expressed against people because they speak a different language, or like different food.

That was not what @Augustus was talking about. There is more to culture than that.

 

[Augustus]

If you hold a preference for an idea, a philosophy, a policy that is a political preference.

If you hold a preference for a “race” of people that is not a good faith political preference.

If you believe your political ideas a better, convince people and get votes. You don’t pick up a gun and go shoot people in a supermarket.

White supremacy is bad. Violent white supremacy is very bad. Few people will disagree with that.

That doesn't clarify what you mean by GRT though.

Opposition to excessive immigration is often because of cultural differences, not 'racial' differences. Is this GRT?

On the other hand, I've seen people complain about white people moving into traditionally minority areas and resulting gentrification. Is this GRT as it is a racial preference?

 

[joe1776]

How has that worked out?

I don't have a problem with trolls. Do you?

If you meant, how has that worked out in the bigger picture, I can't say because it hasn't been tried. Racists keep getting media attention rather than ignored.