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Will you condemn “Great Replacement Theory”?

Do you condemn Great Replacement Theory? (Votes will be visible)


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KW

Well-Known Member
It doesn’t matter if this is a leftist white suprematist or a right wing white suprematist. Will you right now condemn white supremacy? Left right or middle.

Of course I condemn white supremacy.

I also condemn the lying Democrats who create these monsters by their constant efforts to create racial divisions in America.

I also condemn the lying Democrats trying to blame Tucker Carlson for this. It's disgusting.
 
To me, bigotry is bigotry. There is no difference if you are upset about someone moving into your neighbourhood because they are black, or your are upset because they speak with an accent, or follow a different religion. Same thing.

Being upset that someone moves to your neighbourhood is bigotry, yet one may legitimately be unhappy with 80% of their neighbourhood becoming 1st/2nd generation immigrant without being a bigot.

Wouldn't you agree?

You understand I didn’t invent great replacement theory. If you want to understand it listen to those who promote it. Listen to what they are saying and look a what they are doing.

I know you didn't invent it, but you are asking people to unequivocally condemn it so must have a fairly precise idea of what constitutes GRT and what does not.

One thing that increases political polarisation and thus extremism is calling people ignorant, racist bigots for having reasonable concerns so we should be clear to differentiate between actual racist and supremacist ideology and reasonable concerns.
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
Of course I condemn white supremacy.

I also condemn the lying Democrats who create these monsters by their constant efforts to create racial divisions in America.

I also condemn the lying Democrats trying to blame Tucker Carlson for this. It's disgusting.
Great. And if you happen to hear some politician or pundit promoting white replacement theory you will recognize and condemn it, regardless of who it is.

It is a dangerous bigoted idea, regardless of if it comes from the left or the right, Tucker Carlson or Rachael Maddox, Laura Ingram or Anderson Cooper.
 

wellwisher

Well-Known Member
This is an emotional issue, made that way to hopefully lead to self censorship of free and objective thinking. One is not allowed to say what an objective person thinks, since they are too afraid to hurt feelings and thereby have to experience a social tempter tantrum.

It reminds me of a marriage between a mellow husband learning to adjust to an emotionally wild but fun loving wife. She can be fun but also mean and dead wrong. The husband learns that the easiest path of happiness is to let her win arguments to avoid her temper tantrums. He learns; yes dear, but keeps things quietly clear. When she is happy she can be a god send. But facts and truth are not her guide.

The left has been using this married male and female dynamic schema for political purposes, to silence common sense, in exchange for less threat of emotional crap and revenge. The Left has limited common sense and very little in the way of practical skills. What is left is gaming and emotional black male. Like the beat down husband who is wrong when he is right, people will learn to accept the lessor of two evils and go along with bad self serving ideas.

If you look at the modern world, not all cultures are the same in terms of its cultural details, applications and its practical results. For any criteria there are cultures that do better in various things. Under the emotional gaming strategy, we are not supposed to say this, since each comparison might hurt someone's feelings. It is never about learning from the mistakes, since the mere mention of mistakes can hurt feelings.

We cannot teach, those people who cultures, who are not as equipped, how to rise above. Instead we need to be so concerned about hurting feelings, today, that we leave them at that disadvantage and give them lip service service, such as saying we are all equal. Here are freebies for staying equal.

This approach is very sinister, since you cannot solve objective problems with subjective emotional blackmail that is hypocritical. This strategy appear to be designed as way to control people and make them dependent. You can give a man fish to eat or teach them to fish so they can be independent, with teaching taboo by the Left, based on emotional blackmail and hurt feelings.

If you are a white male, by Leftist definition, you are a racist, period, unless you are a Lefty. How dumb and hypocritical is that? What we are being taught is to obey nonsense to avoid a tempter tantrum, even though the exact same behavior can be done by any other demographics, including Leftist white males, and somehow only this is different. Maybe someone can give us an object reason, unattached to self serving emotions, why this is so?

The purpose of this scam is to create division and make a scapegoat. The singled out scapegoat becomes the source of all the problems. The Nazi did this to the Jews. The Nazi were the problem but the scapegoat allows the problem to be emotionally transferred to someone else. It is mean spirited and comes from the hearts of darkness; Democrat party. The real solution is to teach people to fish in better spots, so they can rise above and become more independent. Pointing out a disadvantage and how to solve it, is good.

The white male is no different than any person since we are all equal. So why single them out as the target and scapegoat for emotional blackmail? How does this help the lessor cultures rise above? Digging a hole for the tall guy to stand in, can create the illusion that others are rising above, but with no real change. The hole is there to make the tall guy appear shorter, with emotional thinking allowing a relative reference scam.

If you look at history, say the Civil War, it was the Democrat party; southern Democrats, who wished to form a second country that would maintain slavery. I can not understands why the Democrat party was not dissolved after the Civil War, for their evil intent to continue slavery. That decision has had an impact on the present.

Picture if the Nazi party was fully maintained after WWII and not dissolved. Those in power, who vowed the south would rise again, would have still have an influence on all future laws that would reflect their unfulfilled desire for a two race state. Germany, via the allies, knew this wood happen so it was dissolved.

It was not hard for the southern Democrats to get systemic racism into law, since most bills in Congress have lots of pork barrel added during negotiations. These pet bill add-ons are designed to help elected leaders with their reelection. Some will trade money for legal power; bridges for dual justice. Bad and racists law got onto bills that were given names that made them appear innocent; human dignity bill. It is not coincidence that the last places where civil rights had to be fought were controlled by the Democrats who legally carved out a second culture for themselves.


I have no clue why the blacks attached their wagon to the white males of the Democrats Party, who by their own definition, cannot be called racists, no matter what they do or say. Fifty years later, blacks are still struggling. What did they expect when emotional appeal leads common sense?

What I think should happen is the Democratic Party needs to be finally dissolved to break its racist and emotional gaming roots. The rank and file can rename it, and start a new day with less darkness.
 

Yazata

Active Member
It seems to me that in order for any large group of people to form a community, they will need to share more in common with each other than differences that divide them. The community's cohesive forces will have to be stronger than its centrifugal forces. In the case of nations and cultures, these unifying forces have included common language, shared values and moral intuitions, all the way to styles of food, dress and everyday politeness. Peoples share a sense of common history and historical lineage that makes them what they are. Religion has often played a big role in this. (Just think "Islam" or "the Jews".)

If we replace community in that sense with just a random collection of atomic individuals, each one fundamentally different than his or her neighbors, which seems to be the goal of an unholy alliance of today's globalist economic powers and the radical political left, what we have is a perfect recipe for anomie. I think that many of our social ills today, from rising crime rates through social isolation to school failure and family breakdown, can be attributed at least in part to that burgeoning anomie that threatens the existence of Western civilization.

My question is, as communities break down and inhabitants have little or nothing in common with their neighbors, what makes our "progressives" so confident that everyone will continue to share the left's values and not Islamic Shariah or something else? What will guarantee that every one of these isolated atomic individuals will share a belief in women's rights, in gay liberation, in anti-racism, or any of the rest of their moral agenda? What will underwrite all those beliefs without some underlying culture in which they are normative and that "socially constructs" them?

Precisely the thing that these people seem so determined to destroy. That's what I take to be the fundamental contradiction.
 
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fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
Being upset that someone moves to your neighbourhood is bigotry, yet one may legitimately be unhappy with 80% of their neighbourhood becoming 1st/2nd generation immigrant without being a bigot.

Wouldn't you Agree?
No I absolutely would not agree!!!!

That is the definition of bigotry.

Listen, I understand people have feelings, and I don’t want to judge too harshly. I myself am socially awkward and I find myself uncomfortable in strange situations and with large groups of people I don’t know.

But if are talking about political policies based on race, culture, or length of time living in the country that is bigotry, that is disgusting. You can’t decide who gets to live in your neighbourhood, or how many. Redlining is still going on in the U.S. even if it is less official. It is not much better to say you will allow one black family on your street, but not two, or not five. If someone tells me it is ok to have 20% immigrants living in their neighbourhood but not 80%, that person is a bigot.

Lots of bigots don’t think of themselves as bigots. Lots of bigots really do think they have “reasonable concerns”.

It has been suggested that I misunderstood you in this thread, and I was concerned that I was not understanding. But now I think I understand you perfectly.
 

KW

Well-Known Member
Great. And if you happen to hear some politician or pundit promoting white replacement theory you will recognize and condemn it, regardless of who it is.

It is a dangerous bigoted idea, regardless of if it comes from the left or the right, Tucker Carlson or Rachael Maddox, Laura Ingram or Anderson Cooper.

Please show me where this theory came from.

Who promotes it? Who coined the term.

My guess is this is just another leftist distortion used to attack those who want secure borders.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
My guess is this is just another leftist distortion used to attack those who want secure borders.
Great Replacement - Wikipedia
The Great Replacement (French: Grand Remplacement), also known as the replacement theory,[1][2] is a white nationalist[3] far-right conspiracy theory,[4][5][6] disseminated by French author Renaud Camus. The original theory states that, with the complicity or cooperation of "replacist" elites,[a][4][7] the ethnic French population and white European populations at large are being demographically and culturally replaced with non-European peoples—specifically Arab, Berber, Turkish and sub-Saharan Muslim populations—through mass migration, demographic growth and a drop in the birth rate of white Europeans.[4][8][9]

While similar themes have characterized various far-right theories since the late 19th century, the particular term was popularized by Camus in his 2011 book Le Grand Remplacement. It specifically associated the presence of Muslims in France with potential danger and destruction of French culture and civilization. Camus and other conspiracy theorists attribute this process to intentional policies advanced by global and liberal elites (the "replacists") from within the Government of France, the European Union, or the United Nations; they describe it as a "genocide by substitution".[4]

The theory is popular among anti-migrant far-right movements in the West.[10] It aligns with, and is a part of, the larger white genocide conspiracy theory except in the strategic replacement of antisemitic canards with Islamophobia.[12][11] This replacement, along with a use of simple catch-all slogans, have been cited as reasons for its broader appeal in a pan-European context.[12][13][14]

Critics have dismissed these claims as being rooted in an exaggerated reading of immigration statistics and unscientific, racist views.[15][16]
White genocide conspiracy theory - Wikipedia
The white genocide, white extinction,[1] or white replacement conspiracy theory,[2][3][4] is a white supremacist[5][6][7][8] conspiracy theory which states that there is a deliberate plot, often blamed on Jews,[5][8] to promote miscegenation,[9] interracial marriage, mass non-white immigration, racial integration, low fertility rates, abortion, governmental land-confiscation from whites, organised violence,[10] and eliminationism in white-founded countries[5] in order to cause the extinction of whites through forced assimilation,[10] mass immigration, and violent genocide.[11][12][13][14] Less frequently, black people,[15] Hispanics,[16] and Muslims[17] are blamed for the secret plot, but merely as more fertile immigrants,[18] invaders,[19] or violent aggressors,[20] rather than the masterminds.[21]
Yes, it is very much a Right Wing thing.
 
No I absolutely would not agree!!!!

That is the definition of bigotry.

Listen, I understand people have feelings, and I don’t want to judge too harshly. I myself am socially awkward and I find myself uncomfortable in strange situations and with large groups of people I don’t know.

But if are talking about political policies based on race, culture, or length of time living in the country that is bigotry, that is disgusting. You can’t decide who gets to live in your neighbourhood, or how many. Redlining is still going on in the U.S. even if it is less official. It is not much better to say you will allow one black family on your street, but not two, or not five. If someone tells me it is ok to have 20% immigrants living in their neighbourhood but not 80%, that person is a bigot.

Lots of bigots don’t think of themselves as bigots. Lots of bigots really do think they have “reasonable concerns”.

This is exactly the problem. People who have no experience of the negative impacts of mass immigration on low income neighbourhoods virtue signal how enlightened they are while condemning those who suffer the negative impacts as ignorant racists.

My gran lived in a neighbourhood that, after becoming overwhelmingly populated by recent immigrants, went from low-income, but relatively safe and with a good sense of community, to crime and gang infested ghetto where she was too scared to go out after dark.

The idea that one needs to be bigoted to find such a scenario undesirable is about the most ludicrously arrogant thing I can imagine, and is exactly the attitude that encourages polarisation and extremism.

Ironically, the same people who virtue signal on issues like this, are exactly the kind of person who would be most appalled by a group of brash American or European expats "ruining the character" of some tropical island and "polluting" the indigenous culture there.

It has been suggested that I misunderstood you in this thread, and I was concerned that I was not understanding. But now I think I understand you perfectly.

I'd say start challenging your own narrow-minded prejudices before criticising others.

Too many people think prejudice and polarisation is what 'the other side' does.
 
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Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
I appreciate Buttigieg's intervention on this matter.
But does this secretary support free universal healthcare and free university?
Because Tulsi Gabbard does.
He surely doesn't.

So I am slightly disappointed in this Left that looks so glamorous and carefree, exclusively interested in LGBTs and in race issues. When free healthcare is something that anyone would enjoy. Whites, blacks, heterosexuals, homosexuals, etc...
 

KW

Well-Known Member


From the Nazi Platform:

That all unearned income, and all income that does not arise from work, be abolished.

In order to carry out this program we demand: the creation of a strong central authority in the State, the unconditional authority by the political central parliament of the whole State and all its organizations.

We demand the nationalization of all trusts.

We demand an agrarian reform in accordance with our national requirements, and the enactment of a law to expropriate the owners without compensation of any land needed for the common purpose. The abolition of ground rents, and the prohibition of all speculation in land.

We demand that there be a legal campaign against those who propagate deliberate political lies and disseminate them through the press.


In order to make it possible for every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education, and thus the opportunity to reach into positions of leadership, the State must assume the responsibility of organizing thoroughly the entire cultural system of the people. The curricula of all educational establishments shall be adapted to practical life. The conception of the State Idea (science of citizenship) must be taught in the schools from the very beginning. We demand that specially talented children of poor parents, whatever their station or occupation, be educated at the expense of the State.
 

Clizby Wampuscat

Well-Known Member
Police say a white 18-year-old gunman livestreamed his attack on a Tops store in Buffalo, killing 10 and injuring three others. The suspect posted a so-called manifesto online detailing his plan to target a Black community and discussing his white supremacist ideology. The suspect wrote that he was motivated by the "Great Replacement" theory boosted by Republican lawmakers and Fox News hosts like Tucker Carlson, arguing that immigration is being used to replace and diminish the influence of white people.
Liz Cheney calls out GOP leaders for enabling “white supremacy” after Buffalo shooting (msn.com)
How has Tucker Carlson and GOP leaders promoted replacement theory? What evidence do you have?
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
In order to make it possible for every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education, and thus the opportunity to reach into positions of leadership, the State must assume the responsibility of organizing thoroughly the entire cultural system of the people. The curricula of all educational establishments shall be adapted to practical life. The conception of the State Idea (science of citizenship) must be taught in the schools from the very beginning. We demand that specially talented children of poor parents, whatever their station or occupation, be educated at the expense of the State.
this is in our constitution. Same words.
 
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