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With new observations comes a new belief

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Even in sciences the hypothesis starts from the data which is thought to be evident, it is only a belief that these are evident, and after the experiments/observations we come to a result that we believe is correct, yet it is a new belief, nothing more and nothing less. Right, please?

Regards

Most theories, ideas about truth start as anecdotal evidence. After that comes the sometimes long and detail process of proving those theories, ideas, beliefs.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Even in sciences the hypothesis starts from the data which is thought to be evident, it is only a belief that these are evident, and after the experiments/observations we come to a result that we believe is correct, yet it is a new belief, nothing more and nothing less. Right, please?

Regards
No. Science is not an oracle.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
You're putting an awful lot of weight on the word "belief" in your argumentation. Perhaps it would help to start with what you mean by "belief?"
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
It seems obvious that some beliefs are significantly better grounded in logical reasoning and empirical evidence than are others. Whether one values well grounding in those things is, of course, a personal decision.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
It seems obvious that some beliefs are significantly better grounded in logical reasoning and empirical evidence than are others. Whether one values well grounding in those things is, of course, a personal decision.
Yet these are beliefs.
Regards
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
Yet these are beliefs.
Regards
So what? We live in a world in which, if we insisted on proof of everything before acting, nothing would get done. We take enormous of information on trust because we have no alternative. We believe it, because we trust the source and we have other priorities that checking it all for ourselves.

Science is (usually) trustworthy, because its theories are evidence-based.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
So what? We live in a world in which, if we insisted on proof of everything before acting, nothing would get done. We take enormous of information on trust because we have no alternative. We believe it, because we trust the source and we have other priorities that checking it all for ourselves.

Science is (usually) trustworthy, because its theories are evidence-based.
So, to have a belief is just natural, normal and positive, and to have no belief is not normal and is unnatural. Right, please?
Regards
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
So, to have a belief is just natural, normal and positive, and to have no belief is not normal and is unnatural. Right, please?
Regards
Yes. A person who refuses to hold any beliefs must, I assume, insist on proving everything for himself.

Such a person would be unable to function and would be in a psychiatric hospital.

However a person who merely refused to believe in anything for which there was no objective evidence would be perfectly normal, of course.
 
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