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Women are proof of the existence of God
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Thief
Rogue Theologian
far too much assumption me ...on your part
a gov test happened at my school
when I was soooooo much younger
my test score in science came back......superior
I've gotten a lot better since then
Aupmanyav
Be your own guru
You too define your God in many ways and in quite detail. What he does and what he wants. How do you know about someone who cannot be described? And that he sends messengers and manifestations to the world.
So, don't point fingers at us polytheists. And I am really surprised that with your background of Maths, Physics and Cosmology, how can you still have such weird beliefs!
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Thief
Rogue Theologian
and shallow labels on your part do not reduce my part
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Actually no, describing the relationship with the Creator, does not describe the limits and ultimate nature of the 'Source.' Pantheism specifically limithe ts God as the physical existence it self. In the Baha'i Faith the physical existence reflects some of the attributes of God not God. There is no 'quite detail' of God nor God's nature as far as the apophatic view of God from the Baha'i perspective.
What he does and what he wants. How do you know about someone who cannot be described? And that he sends messengers and manifestations to the world.
Describing some of the attributes of God is not describing nor limiting the nature of God as the pantheistic God is described.
So, . . . don;t take it personal if we disagree on theological nor philosophical questions.I disagree with anthropomorphic Monotheism and Polytheism, especially when they worship gold cultural depictions.
All this says to me is we will likely agree on Maths, Physics and Cosmology.
Aupmanyav
Be your own guru
Which means he is no longer unidentifiable, unexplanable. I think Bahaullah knew more about this God than that.
dfnj
Well-Known Member
Maybe because it is not something you "see" with your eyes but something you think about in your brain or feel in your body.
The trace on earth indicates a passerby
Proverbs 21:19 “Better to live in a desert than with a quarrelsome and nagging wife.”
The "eternal Laws of Nature" point to their being a creator of those Laws, which are the law of Karma, for every force their is an equal and opposite force. To have light, requires one must first have darkness. Without evil, how can there be goodness, unless you have a new creation, based on different laws. There's the rub.
That picture reminds me of:
Proverbs 5:3-4 “For the lips of an immoral woman are as sweet as honey, and her mouth is smoother than oil. But in the end she is as bitter as poison, as dangerous as a double-edged sword.”
Yes, I believe they point a Creator, but not your, nor my interpretation of the Creator.
Every force has an opposite force simply applies a Newtonian concept physics about our physical nature of our universe, and does not apply to the spiritual nature of our existence, nor does the Quantum World of Quantum Mechanics follow this principle.
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Knowing the attributes does not explain nor identify God,
Maybe, but we are not Baha'u'llah, and arguing from ignorance gets you nowhere,
Indicates, yes, but not objective verifiable evidence to establish a convincing argument. We may agree, but there are many who do not.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
Thief
Rogue Theologian
we can the Artist by His handiwork
As Einstein, one of the founders of Quantum theory, said, "God does not play with dice". The Spiritual side of for every force, there is an equal and opposite force, is that for every evil/lawless, there is an opposite and equal good/lawful, which requires evil to exist in this paradigm. How can Conservatives be good, without the bad liberals. As Newton found, the answer is in the Word of God. Your basic particle arrangement, will be pictured in the make up of Israel, taking Abraham, as the initial unit, adding Isaac, as a dependent unit, and Jacob, a third dependent unit, from which you get 12 basic combinations, broken down into 10, and 2 plus 1, which are parallel to another inverse set of the same imagery, representing Esau. From these basic elements, you can combine them into the basic complex compound units, which can be visualized in macro form in the building blocks of DNA, which use the same building blocks that are used for Nature and the Universe. The base units are depicted as the unit 1, square root of 2, and tau. Without the "Word of God", there is no TOE theory. Leonardo used these same basic building units in his work. A man before his time.
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dfnj
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Why is the idea of a clockwork Universe like cement in everyone's minds. God is dice in action. Reality always turns out to be so much stranger than anything we could have ever imagined.
The "lawless", the wicked/evil, represented by Esau, are a "dice in action", the lawful, the righteous, represented by the ultimate Jeshurun/Israel, will be ordered. The mix throws a monkey wrench in trying to represent that order/disorder arrangement, such as tried with Quantum Theory. Plato and Archimedes imagined the structure of the Universe, which on a macro level is played out in the structure of the building blocks of DNA, which gives an insight into the structure of Nature and the Universe, which is displayed in the imagery of Galaxies, and that of flowers. Man has a problem imagining it, but the creator, wrote a how too book. If you go to Australia, the Universe is anticlockwise, and the water goes down the drain in an anticlockwise direction. Their clockwork is apparently opposite of that in America, where the Australian liberals are called conservatives in America.