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Wonder of Life

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
Are you the kind of person that requires evidence to believe something or do you fall on the little more magical side with the ability to have beliefs without it? Personally I think life is a miracle and a mystery all on its own and forming beliefs that others would say are 'crazy' reflect and explain the magic of life perfectly. Spiritual beliefs give justice to the extraordinary phenomenon we call life.
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
Are you the kind of person that requires evidence to believe something or do you fall on the little more magical side with the ability to have beliefs without it?

It depends on the topic and the consequences of requiring little or no evidence before holding a belief.

I have faith that my close friends won't betray my trust or reveal my secrets to others. Do I have evidence that this will never happen in the future? Of course not. I have faith in them, however.

I also believe cats are the cutest animals in the world. This is purely subjective and has no objective evidence behind it (well, aside from the impeccable cuteness of cats, obviously), but I still believe it.

When it comes to measurable, testable topics such as medicine and science, however, I try my best to have sufficient evidence before adopting or abandoning any given belief. Some scientific facts are counterintuitive, for example, but I accept them due to evidence. I also didn't enjoy wearing masks and not being able to see my friends at the height of the pandemic, but I still abided by these restrictions because of the medical evidence supporting them.

Both evidenced and unevidenced beliefs have their place and function in our lives. It's just that, personally, I decide when to require evidence or not based on the topic in question.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
It depends on the topic and the consequences of requiring little or no evidence before holding a belief.

I have faith that my close friends won't betray my trust or reveal my secrets to others. Do I have evidence that this will never happen in the future? Of course not. I have faith in them, however.

I also believe cats are the cutest animals in the world. This is purely subjective and has no objective evidence behind it (well, aside from the impeccable cuteness of cats, obviously), but I still believe it.

When it comes to measurable, testable topics such as medicine and science, however, I try my best to have sufficient evidence before adopting or abandoning any given belief. Some scientific facts are counterintuitive, for example, but I accept them due to evidence. I also didn't enjoy wearing masks and not being able to see my friends at the height of the pandemic, but I still abided by these restrictions because of the medical evidence supporting them.

Both evidenced and unevidenced beliefs have their place and function in our lives. It's just that, personally, I decide when to require evidence or not based on the topic in question.

^^^ THIS ^^^
 

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
It depends on the topic and the consequences of requiring little or no evidence before holding a belief.

I have faith that my close friends won't betray my trust or reveal my secrets to others. Do I have evidence that this will never happen in the future? Of course not. I have faith in them, however.

I also believe cats are the cutest animals in the world. This is purely subjective and has no objective evidence behind it (well, aside from the impeccable cuteness of cats, obviously), but I still believe it.

When it comes to measurable, testable topics such as medicine and science, however, I try my best to have sufficient evidence before adopting or abandoning any given belief. Some scientific facts are counterintuitive, for example, but I accept them due to evidence. I also didn't enjoy wearing masks and not being able to see my friends at the height of the pandemic, but I still abided by these restrictions because of the medical evidence supporting them.

Both evidenced and unevidenced beliefs have their place and function in our lives. It's just that, personally, I decide when to require evidence or not based on the topic in question.
spiritual beliefs? resurrection? life after death? creation? etc?
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
spiritual beliefs? resurrection? life after death?

I believe in no souls, resurrection, or afterlife because I see no evidence for any of them. I would like for there to be a heaven or eternal bliss, but I see no reason to believe there is.

I have no issues with others' belief in any of those things unless they try to impose their beliefs on me or anyone else.
 

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
I believe in no souls, resurrection, or afterlife because I see no evidence for any of them. I would like for there to be a heaven or eternal bliss, but I see no reason to believe there is.

I have no issues with others' belief in any of those things unless they try to impose their beliefs on me or anyone else.
so all u had to say was u require evidence instead of yiur long responce about cats and the like haha
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
so all u had to say was u require evidence instead of yiur long responce about cats and the like haha

No, that would be inaccurate, because I don't require evidence for everything. As I said, it depends on the topic in question. Religious matters are among the topics for which I require evidence before adopting belief in them.
 

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
No, that would be inaccurate, because I don't require evidence for everything. As I said, it depends on the topic in question. Religious matters are among the topics for which I require evidence before adopting belief in them.
Thought it was obvious what i was taking about. I even wrote 'spiriual beliefs give justice blah blah blah'. Oh well.
 
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Dao Hao Now

Active Member
Are you the kind of person that requires evidence to believe something or do you fall on the little more magical side with the ability to have beliefs without it? Personally I think life is a miracle and a mystery all on its own and forming beliefs that others would say are 'crazy' reflect and explain the magic of life perfectly. Spiritual beliefs give justice to the extraordinary phenomenon we call life.
Do you care if they’re true?
 

gnomon

Well-Known Member
Are you the kind of person that requires evidence to believe something or do you fall on the little more magical side with the ability to have beliefs without it? Personally I think life is a miracle and a mystery all on its own and forming beliefs that others would say are 'crazy' reflect and explain the magic of life perfectly. Spiritual beliefs give justice to the extraordinary phenomenon we call life.

Life is an accident.

The magical side is watching people respond to it.
 

Brickjectivity

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Are you the kind of person that requires evidence to believe something or do you fall on the little more magical side with the ability to have beliefs without it? Personally I think life is a miracle and a mystery all on its own and forming beliefs that others would say are 'crazy' reflect and explain the magic of life perfectly. Spiritual beliefs give justice to the extraordinary phenomenon we call life.
I'll always be incredulous about what we call reality, even though I mostly understand how many things work. I understand how to write down the formulas to calculate gravity, how to look up electrical formulas and things of that nature. I can roughly calculate the fuel required to leave Earth. I grasp the reasons why the sky is blue and why grass is green and milk is white and things like that. These are not mysteries. We have explanations for how the atomic structures cause the colors, and I understand these well enough. i have looked through microscopes and telescopes and have melted and burned things and mixed things. I have traveled and seen places, and I have talked to many different kinds of people.

I understand that if life is scarce in the universe, then of course to whatever people do appear that it will seem very odd that we are here somehow. Yes, so I understand that while it appears that everything is here for us it really is not all here for us. It is not about us. It seems as if we are the center when we are on an edge and not easy to find.

But, Jimmy, I cannot dismiss the strangeness of it all. I can not get over the privileged position of being able to know so many things or the astonishing forces which surround me and which could crush me or rip me to shreds in less than a second. I am hurling through space at insane velocities. I have seen a man die, seen a woman die, touched a corpse; and I feel my own blood pulsing at my elbows. I know if it runs out that I will be that corpse. I am more delicate than a potato chip. I am a tiny miracle. It is all unbelievable.
 

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
I'll always be incredulous about what we call reality, even though I mostly understand how many things work. I understand how to write down the formulas to calculate gravity, how to look up electrical formulas and things of that nature. I can roughly calculate the fuel required to leave Earth. I grasp the reasons why the sky is blue and why grass is green and milk is white and things like that. These are not mysteries. We have explanations for how the atomic structures cause the colors, and I understand these well enough. i have looked through microscopes and telescopes and have melted and burned things and mixed things. I have traveled and seen places, and I have talked to many different kinds of people.

I understand that if life is scarce in the universe, then of course to whatever people do appear that it will seem very odd that we are here somehow. Yes, so I understand that while it appears that everything is here for us it really is not all here for us. It is not about us. It seems as if we are the center when we are on an edge and not easy to find.

But, Jimmy, I cannot dismiss the strangeness of it all. I can not get over the privileged position of being able to know so many things or the astonishing forces which surround me and which could crush me or rip me to shreds in less than a second. I am hurling through space at insane velocities. I have seen a man die, seen a woman die, touched a corpse; and I feel my own blood pulsing at my elbows. I know if it runs out that I will be that corpse. I am more delicate than a potato chip. I am a tiny miracle. It is all unbelievable.
i do think its all here for us as well as the animals plants etc
 

JustGeorge

Imperfect
Staff member
Premium Member
I'll always be incredulous about what we call reality, even though I mostly understand how many things work. I understand how to write down the formulas to calculate gravity, how to look up electrical formulas and things of that nature. I can roughly calculate the fuel required to leave Earth. I grasp the reasons why the sky is blue and why grass is green and milk is white and things like that. These are not mysteries. We have explanations for how the atomic structures cause the colors, and I understand these well enough. i have looked through microscopes and telescopes and have melted and burned things and mixed things. I have traveled and seen places, and I have talked to many different kinds of people.

I understand that if life is scarce in the universe, then of course to whatever people do appear that it will seem very odd that we are here somehow. Yes, so I understand that while it appears that everything is here for us it really is not all here for us. It is not about us. It seems as if we are the center when we are on an edge and not easy to find.

But, Jimmy, I cannot dismiss the strangeness of it all. I can not get over the privileged position of being able to know so many things or the astonishing forces which surround me and which could crush me or rip me to shreds in less than a second. I am hurling through space at insane velocities. I have seen a man die, seen a woman die, touched a corpse; and I feel my own blood pulsing at my elbows. I know if it runs out that I will be that corpse. I am more delicate than a potato chip. I am a tiny miracle. It is all unbelievable.

This is beautiful. You've brought a tear to my eye...
 
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