Pah
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Topic: The pot calling the kettle black
As so often happens, one of our unverified assumptions landed us in hot wateror perhaps we should say, a fine kettle of fish. Figurative hot water names "a state or condition of distress, annoyance, or difficulty"; while a kettle of fish is "something to be considered or reckoned with."
We'll begin by acknowledging that tagging unverified with assumption is considered by some to be redundant, since an assumption is something taken for granted, not verified. But because we were trying to emphasize that we never thought to investigate the truth behind what we believed to be the origin of the phrase the pot calling the kettle black, we decided it was a useful redundancy. And yes, we did check that one out: the useful redundancy does have an established place in the way folks use our language.
Now to our assumption. We had long believed that the pot calling the kettle black, a metaphor for one person accusing another of faults of which he himself (or herself) is guilty, has its origin in an anthropomorphic interpretation of a black pot and a black kettle.
But when we looked more closely, we learned the allusion comes from a black iron pot and a polished copper kettle. The way the story goes, the black pot would see its own dark reflection in the sheen of the copper kettle and then charge the innocent, shiny kettle with having its own characteristic color.
As so often happens, one of our unverified assumptions landed us in hot wateror perhaps we should say, a fine kettle of fish. Figurative hot water names "a state or condition of distress, annoyance, or difficulty"; while a kettle of fish is "something to be considered or reckoned with."
We'll begin by acknowledging that tagging unverified with assumption is considered by some to be redundant, since an assumption is something taken for granted, not verified. But because we were trying to emphasize that we never thought to investigate the truth behind what we believed to be the origin of the phrase the pot calling the kettle black, we decided it was a useful redundancy. And yes, we did check that one out: the useful redundancy does have an established place in the way folks use our language.
Now to our assumption. We had long believed that the pot calling the kettle black, a metaphor for one person accusing another of faults of which he himself (or herself) is guilty, has its origin in an anthropomorphic interpretation of a black pot and a black kettle.
But when we looked more closely, we learned the allusion comes from a black iron pot and a polished copper kettle. The way the story goes, the black pot would see its own dark reflection in the sheen of the copper kettle and then charge the innocent, shiny kettle with having its own characteristic color.