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World Peace and world government

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I think world peace is not as hard as we make it out to be.

(1) Promote human rights
(2) Promote compassion, and justice and brotherhood of mankind (even if we see each other hell-bound, we have to see each other as human brothers and sisters)
(3) Promote interpretations of religions in compliance with these two
(4) Demand proofs for all laws and human rights
(5) Promote enlightenment of rights and issues of social justice

3 is extreme complicated in that different people emphasize on different interpretations, but with 4, it should be easier.

Also let every culture contribute their reasoning for their values. Don't promote one culture over another.

We also have to get a world government, the world is too interconnected to stay without one. I don't mind given that to a non-Muslim government (should have some Muslim representatives though) personally but with some conditions we are free to practice and promote our religion.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
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I think world peace is not as hard as we make it out to be.

(1) Promote human rights
(2) Promote compassion, and justice and brotherhood of mankind (even if we see each other hell-bound, we have to see each other as human brothers and sisters)
(3) Promote interpretations of religions in compliance with these two
(4) Demand proofs for all laws and human rights
(5) Promote enlightenment of rights and issues of social justice

3 is extreme complicated in that different people emphasize on different interpretations, but with 4, it should be easier.

Also let every culture contribute their reasoning for their values. Don't promote one culture over another.

We also have to get a world government, the world is too interconnected to stay without one. I don't I'm]\mind given that to a non-Muslim government (should have some Muslim representatives though) personally but with some conditions we are free to practice and promote our religion.
I'm starting an underground movement called "the SHADOW government"... :D
 

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I'm starting an underground movement called "the SHADOW government"... :D

Two shadow societies exist always at it. But I think they both (illuminati vs Mahdi's forces) want peace (at least both claim and tell themselves they want that) so can negotiate and come to terms.

But people have to keep those in power in check or else it will be the worse thing. We have to have a game plan and not go into this blind.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
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I think world peace is not as hard as we make it out to be.

(1) Promote human rights
(2) Promote compassion, and justice and brotherhood of mankind (even if we see each other hell-bound, we have to see each other as human brothers and sisters)
(3) Promote interpretations of religions in compliance with these two
(4) Demand proofs for all laws and human rights
(5) Promote enlightenment of rights and issues of social justice

3 is extreme complicated in that different people emphasize on different interpretations, but with 4, it should be easier.

Also let every culture contribute their reasoning for their values. Don't promote one culture over another.

We also have to get a world government, the world is too interconnected to stay without one. I don't mind given that to a non-Muslim government (should have some Muslim representatives though) personally but with some conditions we are free to practice and promote our religion.

Two problems I think.
We humans seem unable to agree on what is moral.
Second there seems to exist an element of greed among humans.
I suspect mostly we humans want to get along, however this tends to allow the greedy to manipulate the rest.

To oppose the greedy means to not get along.
 

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Two problems I think.
We humans seem unable to agree on what is moral.
Second there seems to exist an element of greed among humans.
I suspect mostly we humans want to get along, however this tends to allow the greedy to manipulate the rest.

To oppose the greedy means to not get along.

Human rights are subset of rights (moral rights), and we can seek to prove human rights more objectively. They are not that hard. Moral rights are linked to it, but we can start with what we agree upon human rights, and then try to seek to prove humans rights that are more controversial over time in peace.

Greed doesn't factor into this, it's benefit of everyone. Everyone benefits.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
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Human rights are subset of rights (moral rights), and we can seek to prove human rights more objectively. They are not that hard. Moral rights are linked to it, but we can start with what we agree upon human rights, and then try to seek to prove humans rights that are more controversial over time in peace.

In the USA the two parties can't seem to agree to the moral rightness of much. This being the example I consider. So I'm not sure how a world government could go about it.

Greedy doesn't factor into this, it's benefit of everyone. Everyone benefits.

Greed seems able to worm its way into any system of government which ends up corrupting the best of ideals.

Not that I'm am against what you are saying. Just don't see it working out with us in or current state.
 

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US and it's people are not enlightened about human rights and social justice. That's their biggest problem. That's why I emphasized on (5).
 

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Greed seems able to worm its way into any system of government which ends up corrupting the best of ideals.

A world government would not promote one people over another, this should be set in the constitution. The intention of world government should be bringing everyone closer to justice and peace and well being.

In theory, the world becoming richer, would make everyone richer. That's the way wealth works. It's in the benefit of everyone.

Spending power increased when even make the elite on top more rich. So everyone including them get's richer.

Greed should not factor since it's for benefit of everyone. It's ignorance that it is the problem right now.
 

PureX

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There is one giant fundamental problem that spoils all forms and sizes of government that must be overcome or world government will simply be an open doorway to oppression and abuse on a global scale. And that fundamental problem is the simple fact that the people who most want to be in control of the levers of governmental power are the very people that should never be allowed to attain that position.

For some strange reason, we humans cannot seem to get this into our heads, even after many thousands of years and the fall of many massive and complex civilizations in the hands of the idiots and tyrants that we allowed to gain control of our governments, economies, armies and even our religions. Are we somehow pathologically incapable of seeing this? Or of acting to countermand the inevitable destruction that results from it? I don't know. Apparently so. Because right now, even in the 21st century, after 200,000 years of history to learn from, we are still letting idiots and tyrants ascend to positions of utmost power in countries all over the globe. And they are causing the unnecessary suffering of billions of human beings, ourselves included, mostly with our approval and consent.

There are countless good, kind, intelligent, honest, and wise people living among us, and yet we NEVER seek them out and encourage them to accept positions of power and responsibility in our societies. Instead, we let the very people who are none of these things chase after and compete with each other to determine which is the WORST possible candidate (the most ruthless, clever, and dishonest of the the lot) and give him the power and control over our lives that he craves;and for all the wrong reasons. WHY DO WE DO THIS???

I don't know. What I do know is that it does not matter whether the governing body is a small village, or a whole planet. Unless we stop allowing idiots, criminals, and psychopaths to attain positions of power and authority over us, the result will continue to be death and suffering for many.
 

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There is one giant fundamental problem that spoils all forms and sizes of government that must be overcome or world government will simply be an open doorway to oppression and abuse on a global scale. And that fundamental problem is the simple fact that the people who most want to be in control of the levers of governmental power are the very people that should never be allowed to attain that position.

For some strange reason, we humans cannot seem to get this into our heads, even after many thousands of years and the fall of many massive and complex civilizations in the hands of the idiots and tyrants that we allowed to gain control of our governments, economies, armies and even our religions. Are we somehow pathologically incapable of seeing this? Or of acting to countermand the inevitable destruction that results from it? I don't know. Apparently so. Because right now, even in the 21st century, after 200,000 years of history to learn from, we are still letting idiots and tyrants ascend to positions of utmost power in countries all over the globe. And they are causing the unnecessary suffering of billions of human beings, ourselves included, mostly with our approval and consent.

There are countless good, kind, intelligent, honest, and wise people living among us, and yet we NEVER seek them out and encourage them to accept positions of power and responsibility in our societies. Instead, we let the very people who are none of these things chase after and compete with each other to determine which is the WORST possible candidate (the most ruthless, clever, and dishonest of the the lot) and give him the power and control over our lives that he craves;and for all the wrong reasons. WHY DO WE DO THIS???

I don't know. What I do know is that it does not matter whether the governing body is a small village, or a whole planet. Unless we stop allowing idiots, criminals, and psychopaths to attain positions of power and authority over us, the result will continue to be death and suffering for many.

You are right, we have to make sure most qualified person get's it, not the greediest for power.

Instead of people promoting themselves, maybe elect people who search out the best and most capable for it.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
You are right, we have to make sure most qualified person get's it, not the greediest for power.

Instead of people promoting themselves, maybe elect people who search out the best and most capable for it.
There are a number of pretty simple methods we could use to weed out those who should never have power, and to encourage those who would likely serve mankind well in that capacity. The problem is that for some reason we just can't seem to SEE the problem and understand the necessity for correcting it. And I am mystified as to why that is.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
I think world peace is not as hard as we make it out to be.
(1) Promote human rights
(2) Promote compassion, and justice and brotherhood of mankind (even if we see each other hell-bound, we have to see each other as human brothers and sisters)
(3) Promote interpretations of religions in compliance with these two
(4) Demand proofs for all laws and human rights
(5) Promote enlightenment of rights and issues of social justice
3 is extreme complicated in that different people emphasize on different interpretations, but with 4, it should be easier.
Also let every culture contribute their reasoning for their values. Don't promote one culture over another.
We also have to get a world government, the world is too interconnected to stay without one. I don't mind given that to a non-Muslim government (should have some Muslim representatives though) personally but with some conditions we are free to practice and promote our religion.

The ^ above ^ sounds to me that the world needs: Justice.
But the world can't even agree on whether to wear a mask or not wear a mask.
Without an agreement on standards there is No Justice.
Since the political can't accomplish what they set out to do justice falls on deaf ears.
Un-just treatment has caused many people's hearts to stir for protesting for ideals or causes with the hope to correct the injustice, but this often proves un-successful because both sides of an issue feel just as strong.
( often election results expose that both sides feel just as strong about issues of the day )

In Jesus' day the Pharisees promoted a false salvation by man, Jesus promoted the opposite.
Jesus was looking at the BIG picture because God put Jesus as His tested ruler in charge of God's Kingdom for humanity. God's trusted kingdom government (Daniel 2:44) because Jesus set the perfect standard.
- John 13:34-35 - and Jesus is eager to fix things for us by removing injustice - Psalms 72:8; Psalms 72:12-14
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
A world government would not promote one people over another, this should be set in the constitution. The intention of world government should be bringing everyone closer to justice and peace and well being................

Since the United Nations sees a hauntingly dangerous religious climate brewing in today's world, then with backing the UN can be strengthened to go up against the disruptive religious world.
 

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If republic government for whole world seems too daunting, we can have direct democracy with technology we have now.
 
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