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WORLD PEACE & REMOVAL OF TERRORISM



There are two route causes for the entire chaos and terrorism in this world. One is the thirst for earning money and the other is the religious fanatic. Due to money, people are quarreling. Whereas due to religion, countries are quarreling. Unless these two route causes are eradicated we cannot achieve world peace. The tree will not die by cutting leaves and branches. It dies only by cutting its roots. There is no use in earning the extra money. Due to excess money, quarrels, mental worries and several other problems arise. Finally, it ends in loss only and not in any profit. You have to leave all this extra money here only and quit this world alone. Your issues may lose that money given by you. Such sinful extra money brings problems not only to you but also to your children. Neither yourself nor your children will be happy and peaceful. This entire world is the property of God and take whatever is required from it. This is said in Gita, (“Yavanartha….”).




In these days, buffet system is followed during feasts. In this system, large vessels contain various food items and people take food from these vessels according to their requirement. Similarly, God created this entire world and you can take the wealth from it according to your requirement. People are not following the same system when they are taking wealth from this world. The peculiarity is that most rich people follow this buffet system in the feasts but do not follow the same when it comes to earning the money. ‘Esavasya Upanishad’ says that one should return back this extra money to the Lord. Otherwise, the Lord will give the troubles.



In buffet system, if one takes extra food in his plate by over ambition and ignorance for a moment, he returns back immediately before starting eating. Veda says that you must return back the extra money for the God’s work if taken by ignorance. In the buffet system if you eat the extra food, you will suffer from diseases. Similarly, if you enjoy the extra money, God will punish you in several ways.



In this world, people belonging to any religion think that their religion only is the true religion. They think that the God of their religion can alone give the salvation and the worship of that God should be according to their religion only. They also condemn other religions and invite people to convert people into their religion. They do lot of work to establish their religion only in the entire world which shows their ambition. It is just like Alexander’s ambition to make the entire world his kingdom. Alexander wanted to extend his kingdom. But, even he returned back after fighting with Porus (Purushotama) on seeing the loss of life in the battle. But, the ambition of religious fanatics is not subsided on seeing any amount of loss of life. Religion is considered to be backed with spiritual knowledge and the religious people are expected to be free from ambition. We can excuse ambition of any ignorant person like Alexander.



The heart of a religious fanatic will not change by any amount of kindness or love expressed in the appeals. Such appeals can change only the heart and the change in the heart is always temporary. Change in the intelligence brought by knowledge based on logic is always real and permanent. Intelligence (Buddhi) is considered to be the driver of this body, which is like a chariot running by the senses, which are like the horses. If the driver is convinced, the entire chariot along with the horses is in the correct path. The terrorist will not change by love or kindness shown to him. He becomes the terrorist due to the wrong knowledge that enters his brain. He was convinced by that knowledge. That knowledge can be changed only by the right knowledge. A diamond can only be cut by another diamond. Similarly, one type of knowledge can only be replaced by another type of knowledge. Then only, he will be convinced and changed forever.



So far, the trials made to change the terrorist were beating around the bush and therefore, they did not have much effect. Today, SRI GURU DATTA is giving the right knowledge to remove the religious conservatism.
 

Valjean

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Namaste, Sri Dattaswami. I find your posts intriguing. Could you tell us more about Sri Guru Datta? I confess I am entirely unfamiliar with him.

Shanti.
 

Yes Man

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Religion is one reason why there are terrorists in the world, obviously. But it seems "certain" religions could promote, intentionally or unintentionally, terrorism. One example is the Tibetan Buddhists. Where are the Tibetan suicide bombers? There are none or little because Buddhism teaches non violence. Tibet has been under harsh occupation of China and so far I haven't heard much about fanatics in Tibet. It would impossible to form a fanatic group with the Sikhs who carry brooms to gently sweep away bugs and insects so as not to step on them. There are many terrorists who are well educated and reasonbly wealthy in the world. So contemplate on that.
 
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A. Leaf

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nice post dattaswami, I totally agree, to solve the problem you have to pull it out by the root.
Violence is for the week though, it goes against the divine rule of Love and creation.
 

Ori

Angel slayer
dattaswami said:


There are two route causes for the entire chaos and terrorism in this world. One is the thirst for earning money and the other is the religious fanatic.
That sounds like a certain president, doesn't it? :biglaugh:
 
Seyorni said:
Namaste, Sri Dattaswami. I find your posts intriguing. Could you tell us more about Sri Guru Datta? I confess I am entirely unfamiliar with him.

Shanti.
Every Religion in this world wants you to get rid of bad qualities at least from today for the admission into that religion which is practically impossible. The reason is that these bad qualities were grown like hills for the past millions of births. This small human life is insufficient even to move them, not to speak of removing them. People can control the bad qualities to some extent by their efforts. These bad qualities are frequently sparking in the minds of even the most pious sages. If one says that he is good and he is devoid of all the bad qualities, it only cheating others, which in turn is cheating oneself. Due to this practically impossible condition, for the religious admission, people have developed allergy towards any religion because the eligibility for admission is impractical.



The religious preachers have confused the whole situation by fusing religion and spiritualism. Religion is the context of GOD to establish peace and justice in this world. In this context, you must control your bad qualities so that you will not disturb the peace and justice and will not harm any good person in this world. If you disturb the world by your bad qualities, God will punish you. But, in this context, it is sufficient if you control the bad qualities since you cannot remove them. The Religion ends here. Some religions strictly end here without any spiritualism.



The spiritualism is the context in which you have to make efforts to reach God. In this context, you need not even control your bad qualities because, God has no personal objection towards your bad qualities. These bad qualities cannot be obstacles in any manner in this context. Moreover, when you turn these bad qualities towards the God, they become your helpers. Any quality whether good or bad, is created by God only to help you in reaching Him. If you realize the original aim of all these qualities, good or bad, why should you control these qualities, which are with you as a helper? No fool controls his helpers. So, any quality when involved in spiritualism is used for its original aim, it becomes a good quality. So all your qualities become good in spiritualism and you need not put any effort to remove or even control them. When the qualities are not used for their original purpose, they become bad qualities. Therefore, whatever qualities turned towards the world, are bad qualities. In this spiritualism, there is no need of any effort even to control these bad qualities.



Then, for what, our effort should be made? Our effort should be concentrated to achieve “Bhakthi” which is the love on God. “Bhakthi” is achieved and is grown by the knowledge of God. For example, you came to know that Bombay City exists. This is the knowledge of existence of Bombay. By this you want to see Bombay. As you know the details of Bombay more and more, your desire to see the city becomes more and more. Knowing details about the Bombay City is again the further knowledge. So, knowledge is directly proportional to desire. First Rukmini heard that there is Lord Krishna on this earth. As she heard more and more about Lord Krishna from Sage Narada, her love on Krishna increased enormously. Narada means he who gives knowledge. Therefore, ‘Jnana”(knowledge) generates and develops “Bhakthi (devotion)”. Due to Bhakthi, the Lord is attained. Gita says the same ‘ONLY BY BHAKTHI I AM ATTAINED’ (‘Bhaktya………’).
 
Seyorni said:
Namaste, Sri Dattaswami. I find your posts intriguing. Could you tell us more about Sri Guru Datta? I confess I am entirely unfamiliar with him.

Shanti.
In the spiritual path all your effort must be concentrated in acquiring the knowledge of God day by day. Once this knowledge based Bhakthi (devotion) is achieved, your qualities good or bad are immaterial. Whatever may be the vessel, the drink in it is important. The value paid in a hotel is for the drink only. If you have taken a cup of coffee, you are paying the cost of the coffee only whether the cup is made of glass or metal. Similarly, God gives value only for your Bhakthi and not for your quality. I will give a beautiful example here. “Sabari” is with good qualities and offered fruits to the Lord Rama who is Vishnu. A hunter called “Kannappa” gave flesh to the Lord Siva. Sabari reached the ‘World of Vishnu and Kannappa reached the World of Shiva”. Both have reached the same Lord because Veda says, “Shiva is Narayana”. Both of them have been given the similar value by the Lord because in both cases, the intensity of the devotion is the same as both gave even their food without eating. Therefore, this proves clearly that the Lord has no objection for your bad qualities. Hence, all the effort should be only to achieve and increase the intensity of love devotion or Bhakthi on God. It is not necessary to bother about your qualities that are inherent coming from millions of births. They are the born qualities. The tail of the dog is curved. Any effort cannot make it straight. By force, we can keep it straight but it has not become straight. Similarly you can control your bad qualities for not disturbing peace of the world by some force. When you come to God, you come in your natural state because you can deceive the world showing that your banded tail is straight but not the God. Whether the river comes in straight path or curved path, the ocean receives only the water with equality. Similarly, God receives your love irrespective of your quality. He received “Sabari” and ‘Kannappa” equally. Sabari with good qualities and Kannappa with bad qualities reached the same Lord, as their devotion is of same intensity.



A piece of gold is wrapped in an old cloth. A stone is wrapped with a metallic foil. Which has more total value? Similarly, the love with high intensity covered even by a bad quality has more total value than the love with lesser intensity covered by a good quality. When the blood flew from the eye of the Lord, the Priest who is a person with good qualities is trying to apply the medicine. But, his devotion is less. In the same situation, “Kannappa” plucked his eyes and donated to the Lord. Kannappa is a person with bad qualities but his devotion is the highest. Devotion is the highest good quality. Now let us evaluate the total cost of the priest and Kannappa. The devotion in Kannappa is +100. The bad qualities in Kannappa are –10. The total cost is +90. The priest with good qualities is +10. The devotion in him is +20. The total cost is +30. So, of the two who is good? Obviously it is Kannappa. Gita says, that, “Even the worst is best by Bhakthi” (Api chet….).
 
Seyorni said:
Namaste, Sri Dattaswami. I find your posts intriguing. Could you tell us more about Sri Guru Datta? I confess I am entirely unfamiliar with him.

Shanti.
Seyorni;
Therefore, what is the eligibility for the admission into our religion of Guru Datta? The eligibility is that you should be a living being. Even animals and birds are eligible to reach God irrespective of their qualities. Even serpent, spider and the elephant got salvation in Sri Kala Hasthi. The serpent has all bad qualities. God did not insist the serpent to get rid of all the bad qualities. Even if God says, the serpent is unable to understand put the efforts. When such a serpent is eligible, why not a man? All the people are depressed and dejected with the eligibility conditions stipulated by various religions. For example if an Institution stipulates the eligibility condition as that one should remove his head and come, nobody can be admitted. Similarly the religions stipulate the removal of all the bad qualities, which is impossible. Only a temporary control is possible which is necessary for you to live in this world with peace. This control is possible. In our religion also we are stipulating this condition, which is possible. So, in our Datta religion, the eligibility condition is that if your bad qualities do not disturb the world, the Lord has no personal objection to them and you need not even control them. Moreover, they will help you in spiritualism.



How to turn the bad qualities towards God and make them helpers in reaching the God? There are six bad qualities that are inherent in any living being since millions of births. They are Lust (kama), Anger (krodha), Greediness (Lobha), ego (mada), Blind attraction (Moha) and Jealousy (Matsarya). Anger, greediness, ego and jealousy come under Rajas quality. Lust and blind attraction come under Tamas quality. I give you an example to divert your bad qualities towards the Lord, which can be used as powerful vehicles. Example:- Love in cinema songs can be diverted to the Lord by little change in words. Then, the powerful tune that created sweet feelings in you is now a powerful vehicle to make you to reach the Lord.



A film song ‘Churaliya Tumne ……’) instead of ‘Sanam’ replace the word with ‘Hare’. All the sweetness of your mind is now on the Lord Krishna (Vishnu). See how a person, mad after cinema songs become a powerful devotee in his own way without any change! You can sing this as your prayer for which you need not put any effort by force. Your worship should be natural and spontaneous, which alone can be true.



But remember these worships with mind and words are only side pickles in the main meal, which is only Karma Phala Tyaga. Without the main food what is the use of the simple pickle?



Bilhana was going thinking about his lover and his leg touched a sage in the way. The sage became angry. Bilhana asked “you are in the meditation for the Lord and I am in the meditation of my lover. I did not feel that I touched you. How you felt the same?” The sage was pleased and told, “Your meditation is excellent but the direction is wrong. Turn it towards the Lord Krishna instead of your lover. You will reach the Lord faster than me”. Bilhana became the saint as he turned his meditation towards Lord Krishna from that moment.
 
Seyorni said:
Namaste, Sri Dattaswami. I find your posts intriguing. Could you tell us more about Sri Guru Datta? I confess I am entirely unfamiliar with him.

Shanti.
Seyorni;
All the good qualities like knowledge, kindness etc., come under Satvam quality. So, Satvam is good quality, Rajas and Tamas are bad qualities. ‘Rukmini stands for Satvam. “Satyabhama” stands for Rajas quality. “Radha” stands for Tamas quality. The intensity of love on the Lord increased in one after the other. Therefore, Rukmini, incarnation of ‘Lakshmi” is given the position in the heart. Satyabhama, the incarnation of earth is kept on the mouth in “Varaha” incarnation, which is a higher position. Radha is given the highest position i.e., “Goloka” above his head. Lord gave the position not for the quality but for the intensity of love, which increases the total cost. In fact, if the qualities are only considered Satvam is greater than Rajas and Rajas is greater than Tamas. Let the lust be concentrated on the beauty of the Lord. Let your blind attraction be only towards the Lord. Radha filled these two qualities with love on the Lord. Show your anger on the Lord for his delay in appearing. Become greedy in not spending you time and energy for the world. A greedy person does not spend even for essential needs. Similarly, the highest devotee does not spend his time and energy even for his essential duties. Be proud that you are the devotee of the Lord. Become jealous, seeing the great devotees of the Lord and intensify your efforts. Satyabhama filled all these four qualities with love on the Lord.



What do you mean by the ‘Love on the Lord?’ It is the real attraction towards the Lord, which is generated and developed by knowledge. It is the mental feeling. It is expressed by words. It is proved by action. Some people think to prove it by mind and words only. They are unable to prove in action and they are covering their inability. They say that meditation meaning an act of mind and chanting or singing meaning an act which is connected with words are the proof of their devotion. But the real love is proved only by action called ‘Karma yoga’, which consists of two parts viz., ‘Karma sanyasa’ and ‘Karma Phala Tyaga’. Karma sanyasa means sacrificing your work for the sake of the Lord. It is pressing the feet of your Guru as an example. This path has the possibility of some tricks. You may press the feet to give exercise to your fingers. You may also be doing the work of the Lord for your food. But if such tricks are not present, it is definitely better than meditation and singing because it is related to action.



The second part called ‘Karma Phala Tyaga’ is the real and best proof, which is offering Guru Dakshina. This part applies only to the people who have earned the unnecessary extra money and store with their selfishness. All the money in this world is the wealth of God only. To the extent required by you, is permitted by the Lord. But you are taking extra which is not expected of you. You are given a cup of milk in a house. You can drink the milk when given which is permitted but not to take away the cup. The milk is yours for which the house owner has no objection. You have taken the cup and claim it as yours, then, you are a thief. The first mantra of the first Upanishad (Esa vaasyam) says the same. The Lord is preaching you to return back his extra wealth which was taken by you and which was not granted by him. The Lord is not asking to return back the milk given to you for drinking. He never asks for the sacrifice of your minimum, partly or fully. For example A person is having ten rupees that is his minimum. Another person has one hundred rupees. The first person gave one rupee to the Lord. The 2nd person gave ninety rupees to the Lord. The first person is greater than the second person because the first person has sacrificed even from the minimum. The second person should subscribe at least ninety plus one rupee so as to become equal to the first person. In the case of first person, Sakthi (Power) is less but Bhakti (Devotion) is more. But in the case of the second person Sakthi (Power) is more and Bhakti (Devotion) is less.
 
Seyorni said:
Namaste, Sri Dattaswami. I find your posts intriguing. Could you tell us more about Sri Guru Datta? I confess I am entirely unfamiliar with him.

Shanti.
Seyorni;
But the devotees sacrifice even their minimum. Sabari collected some fruits that are required minimally for her daily food. But she offered the entire food to the Lord. Such sacrifice is not expected from the side of the Lord. But it is done from the side of the devotee. The devotees sacrifice their minimum partly or fully based on the intensity of their devotion. Kannappa sacrificed even his eyes, which is the bare minimum of his body. Even the body is the fruit of ‘Prarabdha karma’. The most essential part of the body is eyes. Prahlada was prepared to sacrifice even his life for the sake of the Lord. For some character and prestige are much higher than the life. Gopikas sacrificed even these for the sake of the Lord. Veda says ‘nothing and none should be equal to the Lord’, (‘NATA SAMAH’). Prahlada sacrificed his father. Sankaracharya sacrificed his mother. Buddha sacrificed his wife, the only son and the entire wealth. Shastras say that the wife, issues and wealth are the three strongest bonds (ESHANAS). For Buddha, God was greater than these three. Meera sacrificed her husband. Gopikas gave the butter to Lord Krishna. Butter was the ultimate fruit of all their daily work. They can sell it in Mathura and get money. They did not give it even to their children. This is the real Karma Phala Tyaga. The simple and total concept in this is that you will give your ‘Karma phala’ to those whom you love the most. All give their karma phala (money) to their own children. So, the Lord is not equal to their children and their highest real love is on their children only. So, Karma Phala Tyaga is the only real fire test to prove the real love. There is no second thought about this. For any test, paper and pen are required. Similarly for karma phala tyaga test, the money and the human form of Lord are required. If you offer the butter to the statue of the God and eat it, that is not real Karma phala tyaga. Though money is not great, but the love proved by the sacrifice of the money is greatest. Veda says ‘Only by Karma Phala Tyaga one attains Lord’ (‘TYAGE NYKE…..).



Then, how to detect the Lord in human form?



Veda says that ‘God is knowledge’ and ‘God is the Bliss’ (“Satyam Jnanam…”) “Anando….”. These are the characteristic properties of the Lord. As you detect the fire by its heat and water by its cooling, you can detect the Lord in the human form by his infinite knowledge giving in Bliss. A human scholar also can preach the knowledge. But that gives headache shortly. This is the difference between a Guru and a Sadguru. Miracles are the associated jewels of the Lord. Even demons like Ravana and Hiranyakashipu performed miracles. But sages did not accept them as God. They got those jewels from the Lord by force i.e., by penance. They are the rigid children of the Lord. They could not get the inherent form of the Lord. Such human form of the Lord uses your money to propagate the knowledge and devotion and uplift all. Donating food can be done by all. But God only can donate the knowledge. Food ends with this life and suffering for food is limited to this human life only. But if knowledge is donated it continues with the soul during all the future births. If the knowledge is not gained in this life and if the devotion is not developed, the human being is going to fall in the cycle of births and deaths of animals and birds forever. The knowledge transforms a bad person into a good person but the food strengthens a bad person even to a bad person. Even in the donation of food, people are not using their knowledge. They donate food to all pilgrims at Varanasi on Shiva Ratri day. This entire donation becomes useless because no pilgrim needs the food. Here also, the deserving is neglected. Instead of feeding hundred pilgrims on Shiva ratri day at Varanasi you feed one poor deserving devotee for hundred days whatever may be the place. Then that particular place will become Varanasi and every day becomes Shivaratri.
 
Seyorni said:
Namaste, Sri Dattaswami. I find your posts intriguing. Could you tell us more about Sri Guru Datta? I confess I am entirely unfamiliar with him.

Shanti.
Seyorni;
When Rama approached his Guru ‘Vasishta’ for the spiritual path, Vasistha told Rama ‘First you go and earn some money and then come”. The Guru always asks for Guru dakshina to teach this Karma phala tyaga. Guru is the human being and uses that money for himself and for his family. A ‘Sadguru’ is the Lord in human form and he uses that money for propagating knowledge and devotion in the world to uplift all people. People sacrifice their money to feed the beggars? But remember if the beggar does a sin with the energy given by your food, you have to share that sin. You must spend lot of time to detect the deserving person. People are hasty in giving donations at a temple and distribute ten coins to ten beggars in five minutes and came back thinking that they have earned ‘Punyam’. You were very particular of the place and time (Desa and Kala) of your donation. You think that if you donate at Varanasi on the day of ‘Shiva ratri’you can get the punyam. You don’t care to search for the deserving person (Patra). Store all the coins that you want to donate and go on searching for a deserving person. Whatever may be the place and whatever may be the time, when you get a deserving person give all the coins to him. That place becomes Varanasi and that time becomes Shivaratri.



Veda says that donations should be done with knowledge and patience (‘Samvida….’) (‘Sraddhaya..’). Use the knowledge to identify the deserving person and have patience to wail till you get that deserving person. Who is the utmost deserving person? The Lord himself is the utmost deserving person. His first address is the human incarnation and the second address is his devotees. Between these two, the first address is better. The reason is, in the case of human incarnation, the Lord lives in the inert human body. In the second address, the Lord and Devotee live in the inert body. The amount so, donated will be used by the Lord only with utmost utility. Blind and hasty donation without knowledge and patience may bring sometimes even the sin. The Lord in human form is the proper channel for your donation because there will be no error when He utilizes the funds. Devotees may waste due to improper knowledge.



People often say that Service to man is Service to God. This is a very dangerous statement if it is not properly understood. Service does not mean simply giving food, clothes, medicines etc., to suffering poor and needy people. That poor person is suffering due to the punishment given by God due to his bad deeds. You have not seen his past deeds but you are showing sympathy on him at present. Your help is only temporary. Make him a devotee by imparting knowledge. Then the Lord will help him and that help is permanent. So the word “service” should not be limited to donating food etc., In such case after receiving your help he may do sins which you have to share. So convert him into a devotee by donating knowledge so that he becomes a devotee, to get personal help from the Lord and also helps others. Since this is the work of the God, such service of yours’ becomes God’s service. Donate knowledge and devotion, even for the wealthy people. Poor did not mean lack of money only. Poor means lack of knowledge and devotion also. Actually the original sense of this statement is different. When the Lord comes in the human form, he appears as a man. You have to detect him by his inherent quality that is blissful knowledge. When you serve such a man your service becomes God’s service because that man is God. When the God is born as a man called as Krishna, some people think that Krishna is a man and some others think that Krishna is a God. So, there is a controversy. God pervaded that man as the current pervades the metallic wire. So both God and man co-exist. Sankaracharya discussed that particular context only and concluded that though two are present, both become one and the same only. Though wire and current are present, the wire is the current because the wire gives a shock wherever it is touched. Similarly, when God pervades the human body, that human body is the God. So, touching Krishna is touching God. But people extrapolated this concept to every man and said, “Every man is God”. The disciples of Sankaracharya also thought like this. When Sankara swallowed the molten lead and asked his disciples to swallow the same disciples realized Sankara proved that he alone is God and not his disciples. If every man is already God what is the use of all this ‘Sadhana’? Who is to get salvation? If you are already God, do you mean that God gets salvation? If there is no salvation, why all this sadhana, (effort)? Why Prahlada did not accept his father as God? Narasimha killed Hiranya Kashipu. Both of them are Gods. Then God killed God, which means God committed suicide!
 
Seyorni said:
Namaste, Sri Dattaswami. I find your posts intriguing. Could you tell us more about Sri Guru Datta? I confess I am entirely unfamiliar with him.

Shanti.
Seyorni;
The ultimate God, Datta appears as the pious scholar with all good qualities. Sometimes, he appears as a person drinking the wine and at times with a prostitute. The reason for such different and opposite qualities is that He is indicating that any person with good or bad qualities can reach him. The three faces of ‘Brahma’ ‘Vishnu’ and ‘Shiva’ indicate ‘Satva’ ‘Rajas’ and ‘Tamas’ qualities. This means that God is associated with all the qualities, and he is called as ‘Saguna Brahma’. The word ‘Saguna’ means all the qualities. Since Rajas and Tamas represent bad qualities, two-thirds are only bad qualities. It means that people with bad qualities are more in number. The fans of Vishnu think that Vishnu is good because He is associated with Satvam, Rajas is worse and Tamas is the worst. So, they say that Vishnu is the best and highest. They think that Brahma is lower and Shiva is worst. These three forms are only the three dresses of the same ‘Lord Datta’. The God is the same and one, untouched by these three qualities. Gita says the same. Veda says that Vishnu is Brahma and also Shiva. These three qualities are the three coloured clothes of the same Lord. The colour of the cloth is not the colour of the person. A person is not touched by the colour of the cloth and the colour of the person is not affected. Satvam is white Rajas is red and Tamas is black. So the colour of Vishnu should be white and colour of Shiva must be black. But the colours are interchanged. Vishnu is black and Shiva is white. This means Vishnu and Shiva have exchanged their qualities. Shiva is sitting in meditation with a good quality. Vishnu is dancing with the Gopikas and it is a bad quality. Now tell me who is greater? So, Datta is the single God present in all these three divine forms. He is not touched by any quality. Therefore, He is called as ‘Nirguna Brahma’. The colourless person is looking red, white and black due to those colours of his clothes. This form of Datta indicates that Bhakthi is untouched by good or bad qualities. Pure water is present in three glass cups with three different colours. The water is not coloured but appears to have a colour. Similarly the Bhakthi i.e., love on God appears to have the colour of the quality. But it is always pure and colourless. So the person whether good or bad can reach the God through any path. When Bhakthi is present in the person and also present in the path, it is the driving force beyond good and bad qualities. Shiva with Tamas as a bad God invites the bad people in a bad path. Vishnu with Satva as good God invites all good people through good path. But remember one thing, Vishnu and Shiva are one and the same. A good person and a bad person reach the same God because their Bhakti is one and the same. The three faces denote creation, administration and destruction of this universe by one and the same God. Veda says that these are the three activities done by one and the same God called ‘Parabrahman’. So Datta is Parabrahman as per the Vedas. We have three Gurus Sankara, Ramanuja and Madhva. They are the incarnations of Shiva, Vishnu and Brahma. That means Datta came down as these three Gurus. So Datta indicates that He is the single Parabrahman present in the three divine forms called Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva. Datta further indicates that He is the Sadguru present in all the three Gurus. The voice of Datta is the single theory present in the commentaries of the three Gurus. Datta indicates that any living being is eligible to reach Him and get the salvation irrespective of his/its good and bad qualities. Datta also indicates that whether the path is good or bad, only the Bhakti is given value by Him. The Bhakthi should be real and pure without aspiring anything in return from Datta. A beggar comes to you and praises you a lot. You are asking him to move away. But a guest is given all the comforts with special love. What is the difference between these two? The intention of the beggar is to get food from you but the intention of the guest is to see and talk with you. Since the intention differs the treatment differs. So come to Datta as a guest and not as a beggar. If your intention is only to love Datta without aspiring anything in return, Datta will give everything to you, as you are His guest.



So any human/living being in this world is eligible to have the admission into our Datta Religion irrespective of his good or bad qualities. Whatever qualities may be present in him or his path, he need not feel embarrassed when the quality is bad and need not feel proud if quality is good, provided he does not disturb the peace of the World. After entering into our Datta religion you will be imparted knowledge (Jnana) by Lord Datta directly which will generate and also develop the devotion. This devotion real, selfless, proved love on Lord Datta will make you attain Datta.
 
Seyorni said:
Namaste, Sri Dattaswami. I find your posts intriguing. Could you tell us more about Sri Guru Datta? I confess I am entirely unfamiliar with him.

Shanti.
Shanti;
The unique speciality here is Datta donates himself to you and merges in you while you are alive. Datta means He who donates Himself to you. In other religions, you are merging with God after death. But here God merges with you when you are alive. “Datta religion” is the actual material present in all the religions in the universe. It is the water present in all the rivers and also exists separately as the ocean. All the rivers have to merge in the ocean. All the religions merge in this universal religion. Datta is the universal God and the Universal Guru. Datta is the universal love present in all the living beings and in all the spiritual paths. Datta is called the ‘Digambara’ which means the actor himself, who removed all the dresses of his roles and is present in his original and natural dress. Datta is also called as ‘Avadhoota’, which means if you taste Datta, all your bonds in this world with all the people and all the things will be thrown away.

Shirdi Sai Baba used to ask every body for Guru dakshina, which is only teaching ‘Karma Phala Tyaga’. Patil is the highest devotee, who used to give all the crop of the year, which is his required minimum. Baba used to give him some part back. This means, he left to the Lord to decide the quantity of minimum also! Baba told a rich person, who came in quest of Para Brahman ‘you could not give Rs.5/- to your Guru from your pocket. How can you know the Para Brahman? That rich man could not recognize the Lord before him present in human form. He was prepared to give one crore of rupees to his children, but not Rs.5/- to the Lord. The value of the Lord in his eyes is almost nothing. In his heart, there is no trace of love for Para Brahman. This is proved clearly by his karma phala (money). The family bonds of Indians are very strong and they store money even for their grand grand children. They can donate only their mind (meditation), intelligence (logical discussion) and words (chanting and singing etc.,). Their love stored in their hearts like water in tanks flows into their bonds that are like side tubes. Not even a drop is left over in the heart for the Lord. Only Karma Phala Tyaga proves your love on the Lord. At least, luxuries can be cut and that can be subscribed as Guru Dakshina.


Saibaba used to distribute the Guru dakshina to the devotees who are in need as he can only know who is the deserving. The human devotees err and waste, many a time. Guru is only Parabrahman and so Guru Dakshina means the fruit of your work (Karma Phala) offered to the Para Brahman in human form. Human form of God is only full form of God as it alone can give darsanam (you can see), Sparsanam (you can touch), Sambhashanam (you can talk) and Sahavasa (you can live with Him). Gita says ‘I come in human form’. All the four Vedas (Mahavakyas) say that the Parabhraman comes in human form and you have to recognize him by his special blissful knowledge and not by miracles. No devotee is greater than Hanuman and Radha. Hanuman became future Brahma. Radha became the queen of the 15th uppermost Goloka. Both worshipped the human forms available in their time only viz. Rama and Krishna. Are you greater than Hanuman and Radha? He is impartial and so comes in human form for every generation to give the full satisfaction to devotees. Other forms like statues etc., which are useful to see only are only the intellectual means to avoid real Karma Phala tyaga, because you can show the food to a statue with your hand and eat the whole.
 
Seyorni said:
Namaste, Sri Dattaswami. I find your posts intriguing. Could you tell us more about Sri Guru Datta? I confess I am entirely unfamiliar with him.

Shanti.
Guru means the human form of Lord Datta. Purnima means full moon. Veda says, as in Srisuktam ‘CHANDRAM HIRANMAYEEM’ meaning Moon is the money that is Goddess Lakshmi and that is Karma Phala. Full moon also represents strong mind by which you have to sacrifice that to the Guru, who will utilize it correctly. Money in another form is the essence of work. Returning the stolen extra money back to the Lord can cancel that sin. Otherwise, ‘A camel may pass through the eye of the needle but a rich man can never reach God’.

Datta means He who donates himself to undergo the sufferings of his deserving devotees. If you are ordered to pay fine by a judge, your father can pay that fine and can get you relieved from that punishment. Datta takes the human form for this purpose and undergoes sufferings really. During the suffering, He should not use his power and avoid the experience of suffering. If He does so, it amounts to cheating the God of Justice. To get the real experience of the suffering, the human body he takes, should be following all the rules of the nature. His suffering process is continuous from birth till He leaves this human body. During this continuous process, His human body is continuously damaged. When He gives divine visions, a high voltage current flows in His body that further damages the body. You are associated with a few Karma Phalas only. But He is associated with several Karma Phalas of His devotees continuing from several births. You can weep while suffering but He should smile. If He leaves the suffering even for a minute He is not Datta in that minute. But Datta remains Datta always. He is sitting on the thorny throne. You are seeing only the throne but not the thorns.



Datta is the practical aspect of God. “God is infinite bliss” is the theoretical aspect of Brahman. The philosophers of Advaita attracted by the theoretical aspect, but once they come to know this practical aspect, they will like to remain in Dvaita only as servants of Datta.
 
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