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Wormholes, or warp-speed? Or something else?

Wormholes, warp-speed, or something else

  • Wormholes

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  • Warp-speed

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  • Total voters
    2
  • Poll closed .

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Proxima Centauri (star) has the closest extrasolar planet in its habital zone. It's about 12 light years from our solar system.
 

beenherebeforeagain

Rogue Animist
Premium Member
Proxima Centauri (star) has the closest extrasolar planet in its habital zone. It's about 12 light years from our solar system.
Proxima is about 4.2 lightyears away....

However, the difference between 4.2 and 12 is fairly minor in comparison to the physical and engineering requirements for moving even a robotic probe there in a timeframe of interest to humans...A year or so ago, there was a proposal to fly a fleet of tiny probes on a laser beam to Proxima (or it's neighbors, Alpha Centauri A and B) in the next fifty years or so, despite the fact that none of the required technology has been designed or tested yet.
 

Mister Emu

Emu Extraordinaire
Staff member
Premium Member
I don't presume we'll discover FTL travel or a method of surviving a wormhole, so I'd offer generational ark-ships.
 
*gasp* Now you're sounding like a leftist. :eek:
Only a leftist could invert it the way you have.
Try reading it like:
When leftists realize that obsessing over people, seeing only people, and seeing everything only in people-terms, they may suddenly realize that people actually don't count for anything, in the bigger picture.
This is why placing God above petty little human concerns, results in humans doing far better, and in more reasonable ways, than they observably do by bypassing God and jerking off to their own imaginary importance.
 

beenherebeforeagain

Rogue Animist
Premium Member
voted for something else; have no clue as to what it would be, though...

although I am hopeful for some discovery that will make travel to the stars cheap, reliable and easy (and heck, even into the solar system), if there is such a solution, it will probably not come for many more years. And I think that even relativistic travel to the stars is millennia away.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
Only a leftist could invert it the way you have.
Try reading it like:
When leftists realize that obsessing over people, seeing only people, and seeing everything only in people-terms, they may suddenly realize that people actually don't count for anything, in the bigger picture.
This is why placing God above petty little human concerns, results in humans doing far better, and in more reasonable ways, than they observably do by bypassing God and jerking off to their own imaginary importance.

Who is god to you?
 

james bond

Well-Known Member
Ha ha ho ho hee hee. You are at the point where I call you can't get there from here. So, the question is what do you do?
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
voted for something else; have no clue as to what it would be, though...

although I am hopeful for some discovery that will make travel to the stars cheap, reliable and easy (and heck, even into the solar system), if there is such a solution, it will probably not come for many more years. And I think that even relativistic travel to the stars is millennia away.
Sadly it won't be in our lifetime. I would have loved to see interstellar travel to another solar system. I think signals would be the best bet atm. Something like radar mapping of the surface of extrasolar planets light years away.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
There are several problems, physics being the biggest, engineering, cost, (and hence politics) all go to not making interstellar flight possible for at least several generations, if at all. Great pity
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
Not a 'who', that's for sure. More a 'what'.
But above all, a complete and endlessly impenetrable Mystery.
Taoists call it tao. I call it Reality.

And how does one manage to weave an endlessly impenetrable mystery into such deeply polarized politics?
Not a 'who', that's for sure. More a 'what'.
But above all, a complete and endlessly impenetrable Mystery.
Taoists call it tao. I call it Reality.

And how do you reconcile Taoism with your political views?
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
There are several problems, physics being the biggest, engineering, cost, (and hence politics) all go to not making interstellar flight possible for at least several generations, if at all. Great pity
Hopefully it will be before the sun turns into a red giant. I can only imagine how life on earth might be and it's people during such an era provided humankind isn't extinct by then.
 
And how do you reconcile Taoism with your political views?
I have no political views. But I certainly appear to be an extreme right-winger to extreme left-wingers.
This is because they are no longer even able to imagine anyone not having a political view.
You'd be amazed; I am one who gets banned from right-wing websites for being a left-winger.
Makes a rather good case, I'd say, for being whatever it is that I am.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
I have no political views. But I certainly appear to be an extreme right-winger to extreme left-wingers.
This is because they are no longer even able to imagine anyone not having a political view.
You'd be amazed; I am one who gets banned from right-wing websites for being a left-winger.
Makes a rather good case, I'd say, for being whatever it is that I am.

Regarding "extreme left wingers", you do appear to paint with a rather broad and presumptuous brush.
 
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