Would Like Your Opinion

[Skwim]

The other day I received some photos from my brother and his family of their vacation this last summer. All in all pretty boring, but then I spotted one of my niece at the beach, which kind of took me aback. She's around 10 years old and was wearing a bikini. Not just a two-piece bathing suit, but a true bikini. I won't say anymore, but would like your opinion of a girl this age wearing bikini. The picture here isn't of her, but of a girl about her age and in a bikini almost identical to hers.

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Acceptable or not?


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[Sees]

Not acceptable to me but I wouldn't bug other people about their own kids.

 

[4consideration]

Probably acceptable enough for sharing among family members...maybe not acceptable enough for strangers that might put an other-than-innocent-family interpretation on it.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

The other day I received some photos from my brother and his family of their vacation this last summer. All in all pretty boring, but then I spotted one of my niece at the beach, which kind of took me aback. She's around 10 years old and was wearing a bikini. Not just a two-piece bathing suit, but a true bikini. I won't say anymore, but would like your opinion of a girl this age wearing bikini. The picture here isn't of her, but of a girl about her age and in a bikini almost identical to hers.

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Acceptable or not?


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Unacceptable.

 

[Nietzsche]

Sexualization of kids is definitely becoming more prevalent, just like sexualization of the rest of society...

Eh. Society goes back and forth regarding sex and children. With the Greeks, it was considered not just acceptable but desirable for a man and a boy(around 13-14, granted) to be a couple. The child would be taught skills, be housed, and just otherwise have a standard of living quite higher than what he could've expected otherwise.

I'm not justifying or excusing pedophilia, let's make that crystal clear right-the-****-now. What I am saying however is that relationships between older men & women with younger boys & girls has gone in and out of vogue for thousands of years. We happen to be living in an era where it's very much frowned upon.

On thinking about this a bit more, I think it might actually be safe to say that what occurred in Greece and other ancient societies couldn't really be classed as "pedophilia", simply because the notion of a "childhood" is very much a recent one. Children(past a certain age anyway) used to be seen as adults who hadn't quite finished growing. And because of that, there was no need to 'hide' relations between a child and an adult, which probably made it much, much safer for both parties involved.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Probably acceptable enough for sharing among family members...maybe not acceptable enough for strangers that might put an other-than-innocent-family interpretation on it.

Something like that.

 

[4consideration]

Something like that.

I think it's a bit weird that people would expose their children so openly to the internet, when so many people are so weird.

 

[dawny0826]

Why would a little girl wearing a bikini to the beach be unacceptable?

Boys and men are able to wear nothing more than swim trunks and it's not a problem. No one would think twice if this were a 10-year old boy with his chest and navel revealed in a photo.

A covered child minding her own damn business on a family vacation in a swimsuit shouldn't, in my opinion, be perceived as anything unacceptable and sexual at all.

What would be more appropriate attire? A burka?

It's not as if a one piece swimsuit for little girls covers much more than a two-piece. Though this isn't a philosophical contribution to what was supposed to be a philosophical discussion - there's practicality to a girl wearing a two-piece vs. a one piece as she doesn't have the pull the entire thing down to go to the bathroom.

 

[dawny0826]

I think it's a bit weird that people would expose their children so openly to the internet, when so many people are so weird.

I agree with you, here. But, I find it very sad that within our society we have to be so fearful and cautious for our girls, in particular.

 

[4consideration]

It's not the little girl. It's the little men that would blame it on the little girl.

 

[4consideration]

I agree with you, here. But, I find it very sad that within our society we have to be so fearful and cautious for our girls, in particular.

I know. I just have more confidence in my little girl to have the intelligence...so it is she I entrust with it...I might me wrong...but I'd rather warn her...

 

[columbus]

A covered child minding her own damn business on a family vacation in a swimsuit shouldn't, in my opinion, be perceived as anything unacceptable and sexual at all.

To me this is the point. The context is very important. They're at a beach, together as a family. It's beach wear.

I have a lot more trouble with some of the stuff I see girls her age wear to school and such. Just because there is less skin showing doesn't mean it is not "packaging the assets".

Tom

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

After thinking about it, I can't rage against it or anything. People of all ages should be able to go to the beach nude if they like.

 

[Draka]

Personally I've been one to wonder why little prepubescent girls even need to wear tops in situations that boys don't wear them. Granted I believe that women should be able to go topless anyway, but even more strange when it's a little girl being told her skin is somehow "inappropriate". Why I was pissed off not too long ago when I found out my 7y/o was told spaghetti string tank tops weren't allowed at school. The only rule in the dress code that could possibly apply was the "showing inappropriate amounts of skin". How are a little girls shoulders inappropriate? Likewise, how is her belly?

 

[psychoslice]

Looks harmless to me, but then I am not into 10 year old girls.

 

[psychoslice]

Ate we going to in up dressing them like this lol.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Fine.

That's good for you. As a person who has an interest in heathenry, I realize my ancestors may have been wrong about their literalism. However, I don't think their spirituality was wrong, they lived peacefully amongst themselves (before the Viking raids) and they lived without classism because they saw that each of them were children of Odin. Christianity is what brought classism along. (http://www.odinsvolk.ca/GermanicPeoples.htm) I don't know about you, I think Christianity has a ton of surface meanings without any depth to them.

What does that have to do with this thread? Go make another thread in the appropriate area if you want to talk about that.

Oh, and that Odin's Volk site has uncomfortably racial overtones.

 

[Sunstone]

If the kid was dressed in fishnet stockings and a black, leather miniskirt, I'd say I was opposed to the sexualization of girls her age. But I'm not sure the swimsuit in the OP amounts to sexualization. That is, it doesn't look sexy to me; it just looks like a swimsuit.

 

[Deidre]

I think it's a bit weird that people would expose their children so openly to the internet, when so many people are so weird.

This, more than anything.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Meh, I don't have an issue with it, per se, but neither would I dress my daughter that way. Other people can decide whatever they like, and I wouldn't think less of any kid dressed this way.