Would/Should God communicate directly to everyone in the world?

[Trailblazer]

If God exists and God is omnipotent, hypothetically speaking God could communicate directly to everyone rather than communicating through Messengers/Prophets. By everyone I mean every one of the 7.53 billion people in the world.

1. Do you think God (if God exists) would communicate directly to everyone?

• If you think that God would do this, please explain why you think so.
• If you think that God would not do this, please explain why you think so.

2. Do you think it is *reasonable* to expect God (if God exists) to communicate directly to everyone?

• If you think that is a reasonable expectation, please explain why you think so.
• If you think it is an unreasonable expectation, please explain why you think so.

3. Do you think that *rational people* would expect God to communicate directly to everyone?

• If you think rational people would expect God to do that, please explain why you think so.
• If you think rational people would not expect God to do that, please explain why you think so.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

If this deity cares about its creatures and there's some negative consequence if we don't believe in this deity or even know it exists, then I believe this entity would have a moral obligation to reveal itself to all of its creatures and allow them to make their choice from there. Otherwise it is just playing games, in my view.

 

[leov]

If God exists and God is omnipotent, hypothetically speaking God could communicate directly to everyone rather than communicating through Messengers/Prophets. By everyone I mean every one of the 7.53 billion people in the world.

1. Do you think God (if God exists) would communicate directly to everyone?

• If you think that God would do this, please explain why you think so.
• If you think that God would not do this, please explain why you think so.

2. Do you think it is *reasonable* to expect God (if God exists) to communicate directly to everyone?

• If you think that is a reasonable expectation, please explain why you think so.
• If you think it is an unreasonable expectation, please explain why you think so.

3. Do you think that *rational people* would expect God to communicate directly to everyone?

• If you think rational people would expect God to do that, please explain why you think so.
• If you think rational people would not expect God to do that, please explain why you think so.

God does.

 

[Trailblazer]

If this deity cares about its creatures and there's some negative consequence if we don't believe in this deity or even know it exists, then I believe this entity would have a moral obligation to reveal itself to all of its creatures and allow them to make their choice from there. Otherwise it is just playing games, in my view.

First, nobody knows what the negative consequences are or would be for non-belief.

Second, if God revealed Himself to everyone, then it would no longer be a choice to believe or not because nobody in their right mind would reject God if they knew God existed (especially if they knew there were negative consequences for doing so).

Third, I do not think everyone is equally worthy of knowing that God exists. Should everyone get a college degree even if they never went to college?

Fourth, God is not a human so God has no moral obligations. Only humans have moral obligation.
God has no obligations to anyone because God is not answerable to anyone.

 

[sun rise]

God does.

The sun is shining, as it where, but people have "umbrellas" over their head and don't feel the sun.

 

[Trailblazer]

God does.

How does God communicate to everyone?

 

[Trailblazer]

The sun is shining, as it where, but people have "umbrellas" over their head and don't feel the sun.

I think that is true, but I did not mean just feeling God's presence, I meant God communicating in audible speech and saying something to the effect of "I am God and I exist and I have some messages for you" -- to everyone.

 

[sun rise]

I think that is true, but I did not mean just feeling God's presence, I meant God communicating in audible speech and saying something to the effect of "I am God and I exist and I have some messages for you" -- to everyone.

If I heard a voice saying that, I'd assume I was having an psychotic incident. To me, God speaks the language of the heart not the words of the intellect.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

If God exists and God is omnipotent, hypothetically speaking God could communicate directly to everyone rather than communicating through Messengers/Prophets. By everyone I mean every one of the 7.53 billion people in the world.

1. Do you think God (if God exists) would communicate directly to everyone?

• If you think that God would do this, please explain why you think so.
• If you think that God would not do this, please explain why you think so.

2. Do you think it is *reasonable* to expect God (if God exists) to communicate directly to everyone?

• If you think that is a reasonable expectation, please explain why you think so.
• If you think it is an unreasonable expectation, please explain why you think so.

3. Do you think that *rational people* would expect God to communicate directly to everyone?

• If you think rational people would expect God to do that, please explain why you think so.
• If you think rational people would not expect God to do that, please explain why you think so.

I don't think it would be rational to expect God to communicate at all.

However, if we assume for argument's sake that God did want to communicate, I don't think it would be rational to think that he would only be interested in communicating with specific people.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

First, nobody knows what the negative consequences are or would be for non-belief.

Second, if God revealed Himself to everyone, then it would no longer be a choice to believe or not because nobody in their right mind would reject God if they knew God existed (especially if they knew there were negative consequences for doing so).

Third, I do not think everyone is equally worthy of knowing that God exists. Should everyone get a college degree even if they never went to college?

Fourth, God is not a human so God has no moral obligations. Only humans have moral obligation.
God has no obligations to anyone because God is not answerable to anyone.

Just because a deity exists doesn't mean everyone will want to worship them.

I don't agree with your idea that God has no moral obligations to his creatures. That's like saying a parent doesn't have obligations to their child.

 

[Trailblazer]

If I heard a voice saying that, I'd assume I was having an psychotic incident.

And you would be, because God does not speak to anyone that way, not even Prophets. They get communication from God through the Holy Spirit but I do not think it is something we can understand

To me, God speaks the language of the heart not the words of the intellect.

Yes, God speaks to our hearts but since not *everyone* has an open heart, not everyone will get the message.
I have a problem with that myself and I believe in God, so I understand how much more difficult it would be for someone who does not even believe that God exists.

 

[Trailblazer]

I don't think it would be rational to expect God to communicate at all.

Yes, I know.

However, if we assume for argument's sake that God did want to communicate, I don't think it would be rational to think that he would only be interested in communicating with specific people.

Why not? Why wouldn't God get to choose who He communicates to? Aren't you more interested in communicating with certain people? Don't you choose who you communicate to?

I know that God is not a human but since we are made in the image of God, there are some similarities between God and humans. We both have a will so we can choose.

 

[RoaringSilence]

Keyword - Leela, he hides and plays ... he teases .

 

[Thief]

If God exists and God is omnipotent, hypothetically speaking God could communicate directly to everyone rather than communicating through Messengers/Prophets. By everyone I mean every one of the 7.53 billion people in the world.

1. Do you think God (if God exists) would communicate directly to everyone?

• If you think that God would do this, please explain why you think so.
• If you think that God would not do this, please explain why you think so.

2. Do you think it is *reasonable* to expect God (if God exists) to communicate directly to everyone?

• If you think that is a reasonable expectation, please explain why you think so.
• If you think it is an unreasonable expectation, please explain why you think so.

3. Do you think that *rational people* would expect God to communicate directly to everyone?

• If you think rational people would expect God to do that, please explain why you think so.
• If you think rational people would not expect God to do that, please explain why you think so.

Star Trek has numerous episodes with the crew in conflict
trying to uphold the Prime Directive

no touchie….no feelie

and I always thought it odd.....someone known to not believe in God
would develop a tv series with sooooo many spiritual ideas

and I believe....for your spirit to develop as a unique individual
you must be left to your own thought and feeling

not that God doesn't play chess

 

[Thief]

but then again....instruction is written....

Go to your closet and close the door
and the Spirit that knows you will hear your pray

like an old style flip face communicator
that happens to be broken

flip the door shut....and send a one way message
depending on the distance
it might take a few years to be received

 

[Trailblazer]

Just because a deity exists doesn't mean everyone will want to worship them.

You are right about that. Just because we *believe* that God exists does not mean we will want to worship God.
I have that problem myself.

I don't agree with your idea that God has no moral obligations to his creatures. That's like saying a parent doesn't have obligations to their child.

God is not a human so a God-human relationship is not the same as a parent-child relationship.
God does not have moral obligations because God is not subject to morality. God wills and then He chooses according to His knowledge and wisdom.

God takes care of His Creatures as He sees fit. We cannot dictate God's choices anymore than a child can dictate to a parent how he should be cared for. God knows what is best for humans, just like a parent knows what is best for his child.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

You are right about that. Just because we *believe* that God exists does not mean we will want to worship God. I have that problem myself.

God is not a human so it is not the same as a parent-child relationship.
God does not have moral obligations because God is not subject to morality, God just is and God wills what He wills according to what He chooses.

God takes care of His Creatures as He sees fit. We cannot dictate God's choices anymore than a child can dictate to a parent how he should be cared for. God knows what is best for humans, just like a parent knows what is best for his child.

Bleh. We've been over this before so well just have to agree to disagree. Your idea of God is basically just an abstract thought experiment so you can say whatever you please about it without referring to the observations of nature or logic. It's just your beliefs and your idea of God makes no sense to me. You might as well be an atheist, in my mind.

 

[Trailblazer]

Bleh. We've been over this before so well just have to agree to disagree. Your idea of God is basically just an abstract thought experiment so you can say whatever you please about it without referring to the observations of nature or logic. It's just your beliefs and your idea of God makes no sense to me. You might as well be an atheist, in my mind.

I understand. My beliefs and ideas come from somewhere just as yours do and what makes sense to one person does not always make sense to another person. My husband is the same religion as me but we do not share all the same ideas about God, because what makes sense to him makes no sense to me. He is more into a personal God and I am into a God that is more detached because that is what I observe. He believes God is compassionate and loving because of scriptures and I cannot believe that because of all the suffering I see in the world.

I think like a lot of atheists, but I cannot be an atheist because I believe God exists.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Why not? Why wouldn't God get to choose who He communicates to? Aren't you more interested in communicating with certain people? Don't you choose who you communicate to?

If I have a message for a certain person or group of people, I'll generally give it directly to them. The only time I'd tell someone to pass along a message from me to someone else is if I'm incapable of doing it myself for some reason.

What is this hypothetical God incapable of?

I know that God is not a human but since we are made in the image of God, there are some similarities between God and humans. We both have a will so we can choose.

You're made in the image of God? Interesting. Tell me: in which ways are you like an all-wise, all-powerful space alien, born in darkness and solitude, as ancient as the universe?

 

[leov]

How does God communicate to everyone?

God just exists "near" as Christ Jesus proclaimed, like different dimension in multivese different vibration rate , people used to have better abilities to reach spirit dimension, it is more difficult today but still quite possible.