Would you call this suicide?

[SaintMalachi]

Okay if a guy is traveling the world taking part in every and any war and battle he finds because he wants to die but because of his religious beliefs he is incapable of suicide as it is a sin. He also doesn't let his opponent kill him he puts up a good fight as though he doesn't want to die but what he seeks is someone skilled enough to be able to kill him. Are these circumstances considered suicide?

 

[outhouse]

in your own words you admit it was suicide. no brainer

he seeks is someone skilled enough to be able to kill him

he seeks to be killed, how or how long is not relevant

 

[Gjallarhorn]

Assisted suicide at least. Not sure it's full suicide though. Might have to take it up with the guy's chosen deity.

 

[The Sum of Awe]

If he wishes to be killed, yes.

 

[Splarnst]

So, his religious beliefs allow him to participate in "every and any war and battle he finds" and to kill an unlimited number of people on the other side (no matter how just their cause), but not to simply take some pills in his home?

That's just messed up.

 

[The Sum of Awe]

So, his religious beliefs allow him to participate in "every and any war and battle he finds" and to kill an unlimited number of people on the other side (no matter how just their cause), but not to simply take some pills in his home?

That's just messed up.

Indeed it is.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

su·i·cide/ˈsooiˌsīd/

Noun: The action of killing oneself intentionally: "he committed suicide at the age of forty".

Verb: Intentionally kill oneself.

 

[Alex_G]

The actual death itself isnt really a suicide per say. If he is killed in battle whilst performing at his best (ie not taking active measures to clearly ensure his death) the exact event of when he is precisely killed if ever is not privy to him, and thus he isnt the direct author of his own demise. However he clearly has a generalised suicidal thoughts and plans, but i would rather categorise him as having self-destructive behaviour, somewhat similar to the hopeless alcoholic drinking himself to the grave.


I think suicide is characterised by that action immediately prior to death which is clearly the direct cause of ones own demise in so far as without that specific action, the death wouldn’t have occurred. So acting whole heartedly in a manner of self preservation within a war and to be killed by another is out of your control by definition, so it isnt strictly a suicide.

 

[Levite]

In the view of Jewish Law, what he's actually doing is worse than suicide. It's bad enough to kill yourself, but it's far worse to take a bunch of other people with you. And that's true whether the other people were victims of a bomb or random combatants who are victims of his search for someone skilled enough to put him out of his misery.

 

[Twig pentagram]

I say no.

 

[blackout]

If one wanted to chase death... tempt fate....
why not become a daredevil.

 

[not nom]

a lot of direct youicide, followed by indirect suicide? seems like stupicide to me

 

[waitasec]

Okay if a guy is traveling the world taking part in every and any war and battle he finds because he wants to die but because of his religious beliefs he is incapable of suicide as it is a sin. He also doesn't let his opponent kill him he puts up a good fight as though he doesn't want to die but what he seeks is someone skilled enough to be able to kill him. Are these circumstances considered suicide?

if his wish were to be killed in battle...the answer it pretty clear

 

[Heathen Hammer]

Sounds like a Heathen to me

 

[Me Myself]

I say no, but honestly, participating in wars just because he wants someone to kill him is far worst than just frigging killing himself on my book.