Would you consider my belief wierd? (Mixture of Deism, Philosophical Taoism and Polytheism)

[YAW7911]

So I do believe in a godhead. If you haven't noticed in say Greek myths there are elder gods who came before Olympus called Titans and Primordial gods before them such as Chaos(there are people much more certified than I to talk about them, of course), similarly in Norse, and many other I am too clueless to say here. And the gods of mortal time were specified not to take part in creation but more like manifestation of nature. Most Primordial deities perishes, or rather falls asleep after creation (as their presence might be required for the world to exist) and by normal means cannot consciously affect reality.
In early Religious Taoism before its freakish merging with Shamanism that represents neither, there is a lore where someone who achieved power beyond omnipotence giving birth to a new reality. Then the mortals, in its most primitive, fragile form, was born. Some physical, some closer to spirits, and possibly the later would come first, and to an extent becoming the basis of nature. Then came the mystical gods, whose existence are bounded by mortal belief and have mutual effect with mortals, possibly unintended mantling of something greater (re-awaking something more ancient, or an aspect of it) or purely out of belief though there are multiple theories of how that works, for now I will say reality wrapping (belief is literally wrapping reality,) and Omni-verse (some unknown forces are mantling these ideas, then with it comes identity and power, shaping into what we belief today).
And as of personal belief there is a Macro-verse beyond Omni-verse that the true fabric of reality is mathematics rather than metaphysics.
So to rephrase everything: Macroverse >> Godhead -> Metaphysics -> Spirits -> Mortals -> Gods <==> Mortals.

 

[Thief]

So I do believe in a godhead. If you haven't noticed in say Greek myths there are elder gods who came before Olympus called Titans and Primordial gods before them such as Chaos(there are people much more certified than I to talk about them, of course), similarly in Norse, and many other I am too clueless to say here. And the gods of mortal time were specified not to take part in creation but more like manifestation of nature. Most Primordial deities perishes, or rather falls asleep after creation (as their presence might be required for the world to exist) and by normal means cannot consciously affect reality.
In early Religious Taoism before its freakish merging with Shamanism that represents neither, there is a lore where someone who achieved power beyond omnipotence giving birth to a new reality. Then the mortals, in its most primitive, fragile form, was born. Some physical, some closer to spirits, and possibly the later would come first, and to an extent becoming the basis of nature. Then came the mystical gods, whose existence are bounded by mortal belief and have mutual effect with mortals, possibly unintended mantling of something greater (re-awaking something more ancient, or an aspect of it) or purely out of belief though there are multiple theories of how that works, for now I will say reality wrapping (belief is literally wrapping reality,) and Omni-verse (some unknown forces are mantling these ideas, then with it comes identity and power, shaping into what we belief today).
And as of personal belief there is a Macro-verse beyond Omni-verse that the true fabric of reality is mathematics rather than metaphysics.
So to rephrase everything: Macroverse >> Godhead -> Metaphysics -> Spirits -> Mortals -> Gods <==> Mortals.

so....you believe in Hierarchy...

would that be hierarchy now living an of influence?
or just a progression of how things developed to the present?

one God or many now in action?

 

[Nietzsche]

similarly in Norse

Just to clarify, Ymir is the primordial entity, though Odin, Vili and Ve are equally as old, slay him and build Midgard(Earth) from his corpse.

 

[Kapalika]

It's not that weird, but I wouldn't call that deism since you believe in some kind of gods or spirits that interact with the world. A deistic god wouldn't interact with it. It sounds much more like theism.

 

[YAW7911]

It's not that weird, but I wouldn't call that deism since you believe in some kind of gods or spirits that interact with the world. A deistic god wouldn't interact with it. It sounds much more like theism.

But the godhead actually exist but at the same time dead (or just inactive, though if time cease to be, I won't be able to know causality) in my belief. The deities are powerful, but nowhere to what I would consider omnipotent.

 

[YAW7911]

Just to clarify, Ymir is the primordial entity, though Odin, Vili and Ve are equally as old, slay him and build Midgard(Earth) from his corpse.

Forget human origin or even that of earth. When I say primordial deities, I mean things that come before the any form of celestial body.

 

[YAW7911]

so....you believe in Hierarchy...

would that be hierarchy now living an of influence?
or just a progression of how things developed to the present?

one God or many now in action?

I would say progression.
My version of creation:
First there were conceptual beings, one of them became our godhead, which creates metaphysics. Then the energetic beings we called spirits, who ultimately create the mortals and the physical world, some holding greater importance as chemistry are more fundamental than biology, and so on. Then out of mortal believes gods were born, who were out of pure belief or mantling a certain aspect of the spirits, and possibly a certain spirit wishes to be worshipped. Spirituality is to reconnect with the spirits and religion with the gods, though the exact nature and limit of mortal belief is still unknown.
There are many gods in action, and with them many avatars.

 

[Lorgar-Aurelian]

So I do believe in a godhead. If you haven't noticed in say Greek myths there are elder gods who came before Olympus called Titans and Primordial gods before them such as Chaos(there are people much more certified than I to talk about them, of course), similarly in Norse, and many other I am too clueless to say here. And the gods of mortal time were specified not to take part in creation but more like manifestation of nature. Most Primordial deities perishes, or rather falls asleep after creation (as their presence might be required for the world to exist) and by normal means cannot consciously affect reality.
In early Religious Taoism before its freakish merging with Shamanism that represents neither, there is a lore where someone who achieved power beyond omnipotence giving birth to a new reality. Then the mortals, in its most primitive, fragile form, was born. Some physical, some closer to spirits, and possibly the later would come first, and to an extent becoming the basis of nature. Then came the mystical gods, whose existence are bounded by mortal belief and have mutual effect with mortals, possibly unintended mantling of something greater (re-awaking something more ancient, or an aspect of it) or purely out of belief though there are multiple theories of how that works, for now I will say reality wrapping (belief is literally wrapping reality,) and Omni-verse (some unknown forces are mantling these ideas, then with it comes identity and power, shaping into what we belief today).
And as of personal belief there is a Macro-verse beyond Omni-verse that the true fabric of reality is mathematics rather than metaphysics.
So to rephrase everything: Macroverse >> Godhead -> Metaphysics -> Spirits -> Mortals -> Gods <==> Mortals.

On some level it seems to me that if there are gods or a God they are more than likely pretty fine with people having different beliefs and evolving those beliefs over time. To me the idea of calling your spirituality weird seems well... silly. It's not like some spiritual paths I could mention and almost always do mention that cause actual harm to the adherents so you know. You do you brah. You do you.

 

[Jumi]

It does sound like religious Taoism with the mixed theism. I think the touch of universalism is always interesting, looking at multiple religions to see if they mention the same.

 

[Kapalika]

But the godhead actually exist but at the same time dead (or just inactive, though if time cease to be, I won't be able to know causality) in my belief. The deities are powerful, but nowhere to what I would consider omnipotent.

Well, then I'd say it's pandeism in that aspect as to the "true" creator god. In a lot of ways your beleif system mirrors mine before I became non-theistic/stopped believing in the supernatural. At least in terms of the general cosmology. It's always interesting to see when people draw similar conclusions independently.

 

[Tabu]

Spirituality is to reconnect with the spirits and religion with the gods, though the exact nature and limit of mortal belief is still unknown.
There are many gods in action, and with them many avatars.

Spirituality , according to me is first to realize that all of us are souls , inherently good and our bodies are the costumes , the machinery of organs through which we communicate with the world.
Initially souls are pure and the highest of them are the deities ,
and through spirituality we make that effort to refill the lost powers into the soul and raise them to their lofty station of worthy of worship.

 

[YAW7911]

Spirituality , according to me is first to realize that all of us are souls , inherently good and our bodies are the costumes , the machinery of organs through which we communicate with the world.
Initially souls are pure and the highest of them are the deities ,
and through spirituality we make that effort to refill the lost powers into the soul and raise them to their lofty station of worthy of worship.

There has been records of spirituality morphing people from gentle to arrogant and demanding, and to my belief there are powers much greater than spirit that requires seeing past metaphysics, where spirituality is bounded.
Also there are instances that lack of belief can unmake a deity, so getting yourself involved in that could be very dangerous.

 

[Tabu]

There has been records of spirituality morphing people from gentle to arrogant and demanding, and to my belief there are powers much greater than spirit that requires seeing past metaphysics, where spirituality is bounded.
Also there are instances that lack of belief can unmake a deity, so getting yourself involved in that could be very dangerous.

Personally , I have experienced positive and empowering changes with Brahma Kumari spirituality , and there are many others who have profited similarly.
Here is video to get a better idea of the spirituality I am talking about for your consideration.

Thanks

 

[Thief]

I would say progression.
My version of creation:
First there were conceptual beings, one of them became our godhead, which creates metaphysics. Then the energetic beings we called spirits, who ultimately create the mortals and the physical world, some holding greater importance as chemistry are more fundamental than biology, and so on. Then out of mortal believes gods were born, who were out of pure belief or mantling a certain aspect of the spirits, and possibly a certain spirit wishes to be worshipped. Spirituality is to reconnect with the spirits and religion with the gods, though the exact nature and limit of mortal belief is still unknown.
There are many gods in action, and with them many avatars.

it seems your sense of hierarchy moves from greater to lesser beings

In the spiritual realm that may be so

on this earth life came up.....one step at a time

 

[Jeremiahcp]

So I do believe in a godhead. If you haven't noticed in say Greek myths there are elder gods who came before Olympus called Titans and Primordial gods before them such as Chaos(there are people much more certified than I to talk about them, of course), similarly in Norse, and many other I am too clueless to say here. And the gods of mortal time were specified not to take part in creation but more like manifestation of nature. Most Primordial deities perishes, or rather falls asleep after creation (as their presence might be required for the world to exist) and by normal means cannot consciously affect reality.
In early Religious Taoism before its freakish merging with Shamanism that represents neither, there is a lore where someone who achieved power beyond omnipotence giving birth to a new reality. Then the mortals, in its most primitive, fragile form, was born. Some physical, some closer to spirits, and possibly the later would come first, and to an extent becoming the basis of nature. Then came the mystical gods, whose existence are bounded by mortal belief and have mutual effect with mortals, possibly unintended mantling of something greater (re-awaking something more ancient, or an aspect of it) or purely out of belief though there are multiple theories of how that works, for now I will say reality wrapping (belief is literally wrapping reality,) and Omni-verse (some unknown forces are mantling these ideas, then with it comes identity and power, shaping into what we belief today).
And as of personal belief there is a Macro-verse beyond Omni-verse that the true fabric of reality is mathematics rather than metaphysics.
So to rephrase everything: Macroverse >> Godhead -> Metaphysics -> Spirits -> Mortals -> Gods <==> Mortals.

I consider most beliefs about God(s) weird. Is yours any weirder then the other ones I have heard? No, they are all really strange. I all for religious freedom, but you believers have some really odd beliefs.

 

[YAW7911]

it seems your sense of hierarchy moves from greater to lesser beings

In the spiritual realm that may be so

on this earth life came up.....one step at a time

In some sense mortals came at the bottom, but is very expandable, more so than the spirits.