Would you Vote for Trump?

[tytlyf]

Ah but one of your favorite boogeymen, Charles Koch, said he might support the Hillary..... Pulling your hair out and running amok at that?
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/fir...ys-he-could-possibly-support-hillary-clinton/

Poor tytlyf, his dream candidate, Hillary, could be supported by his biggest nightmare, one of the Koch brothers, Charles. What say you now?

Yep, saw that too. He's one of the special interest insiders running the show. The Kochroaches are a huge problem in America. Mostly because they spending 100's of millions every year buying elections. I bet they regret creating the Tea Party now.

Charles can say whatever he wants, doesn't mean it's true. It's most likely a strategist move. I wouldn't listen to a word they say, they're crooked. That's like taking the word of the oil corporations when it comes to climate change over the scientists across the world.

At least at this point, Obama appears to be leaving office with an approval rating higher than either Bush, along with the Pub's deity, Reagan, at the end of their terms in office. Higher than any of them was Clinton but, the last time I seem to remember, he wasn't a Republican.

Oh, and exactly how high is the Congressional Republican's "approval" rating? [that's a joke, in case one missed it]

Obama has done a fantastic job as president. This isn't a surprise. RW media loves telling their audience day in day out that the Obama 'regime' is a huge trainwreck and failure. They've been doing this from day 1. You'll notice RW media doesn't give examples, they just say it. (make it up)

That's ok, Fox and Rush are in the business of disinformation. All these years they've been intentionally taking advantage of their audiences.

 

[Revoltingest]

Now for some fun in the news.....
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/...thers-at-costa-mesa-rally-20160428-story.html
Hillary supporters run wild !

 

[Revoltingest]

At least at this point, Obama appears to be leaving office with an approval rating higher than either Bush, along with the Pub's deity, Reagan, at the end of their terms in office. Higher than any of them was Clinton but, the last time I seem to remember, he wasn't a Republican.

Oh, and exactly how high is the Congressional Republican's "approval" rating? [that's a joke, in case one missed it]

It must be difficult being a Democrat.
One must find pride in what amounts to the slogan....
"Obama is loathed slightly less by the public than Dubya!"

 

[tytlyf]

It must be difficult being a Democrat.
One must find pride in what amounts to the slogan....
"Obama is loathed slightly less by the public than Dubya!"

Nah, his approval ratings are increasing. Meanwhile, in Benghazi land another one bites the dust. Fox's Benghazi expert busted for Fraud. It's a phony scandal created by elitist republican insiders.

Wayne Simmons, who presented himself as a national security expert and was a part of the conservative media push for a congressional investigation of the Benghazi attack, has pleaded guilty to federal fraud charges.
In an April 29 press release the Department of Justice noted that Simmons “falsely claimed he spent 27 years working for the Central Intelligence Agency” and had pleaded guilty “to major fraud against the government, wire fraud, and a firearms offense.”..........

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/0...-s-benghazi-expert-pleads-guilty-fraud/210145

 

[Mr Spinkles]

It must be difficult being a Democrat.
One must find pride in what amounts to the slogan....
"Obama is loathed slightly less by the public than Dubya!"

Hmm, not sure if ending up 20 percentage points higher is a "slight" difference in approval, especially when 50% is pretty much the ceiling in today's polarized world. Obama will end his second term at ~50% approval while Bush Part Deux ended at ~30%. And that's after Bush squandered his 90% approval rating early in his first term (post-9/11).

 

[Mr Spinkles]

No, I'm for the person who I think will change the direction that your idol, the Obama, has taken us. And, oh by the way that would be the wrong way.
Life Member NRA

Who is that person, or are you undecided? Just curious.

 

[esmith]

Who is that person, or are you undecided? Just curious.

Well among the present contenders and that would be either Trump, Cruz, Kasich, Hillary, or Sanders it would have to be Trump.
And the order listed is in preference

 

[Mr Spinkles]

Well among the present contenders and that would be either Trump, Cruz, Kasich, Hillary, or Sanders it would have to be Trump.
And the order listed is in preference

Do you support Trump because he's the "least bad", in your view? I ask because when tytlyf asked whether you are a Trump supporter and thought you were a Cruz supporter, you replied "no I'm for the person who ..." and now you say "it would have to be", which sounds like reluctant support of the "least bad".

 

[Mr Spinkles]

Now for some fun in the news.....
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/...thers-at-costa-mesa-rally-20160428-story.html
Hillary supporters run wild !

Such violence is disgusting. Fortunately there were no major injuries this time. Kudos to Congresswoman Sanchez for injecting some reason into the debate:

"Rep. Linda Sanchez (D-Whittier), chairwoman of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, said there is "no doubt" Trump’s candidacy has made the Latino community "a target for hateful rhetoric, and in some cases physical violence."

But destroying public property, she said, is not the answer.

"When we resort to violence, we’re playing into the very hands of people like Donald Trump," Sanchez said in a statement released Friday. "I believe the solution must be peaceful protest and more importantly, directing our energy towards shifting our voter registration efforts into high gear.""

 

[Revoltingest]

Such violence is disgusting. Fortunately there were no major injuries this time. Kudos to Congresswoman Sanchez for injecting some reason into the debate:

"Rep. Linda Sanchez (D-Whittier), chairwoman of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, said there is "no doubt" Trump’s candidacy has made the Latino community "a target for hateful rhetoric, and in some cases physical violence."

But destroying public property, she said, is not the answer.

"When we resort to violence, we’re playing into the very hands of people like Donald Trump," Sanchez said in a statement released Friday. "I believe the solution must be peaceful protest and more importantly, directing our energy towards shifting our voter registration efforts into high gear.""

I sought mischief.....your response was reasonable but not fun!

 

[esmith]

Do you support Trump because he's the "least bad", in your view? I ask because when tytlyf asked whether you are a Trump supporter and thought you were a Cruz supporter, you replied "no I'm for the person who ..." and now you say "it would have to be", which sounds like reluctant support of the "least bad".

No, it is not because he is the "least bad". I may or may not agree with all of his ideas, but I support the majority of them.

 

[Revoltingest]

Hmm, not sure if ending up 20 percentage points higher is a "slight" difference in approval, especially when 50% is pretty much the ceiling in today's polarized world. Obama will end his second term at ~50% approval while Bush Part Deux ended at ~30%. And that's after Bush squandered his 90% approval rating early in his first term (post-9/11).

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I don't see a 20 point difference, but I mock the taking pride in poll status differences.

 

[fantome profane]

I don't see a 20 point difference, but I mock the taking pride in poll status differences.

I love polls. A very professional scientific poll I have seen lately says that 85% of RF members would not vote for Trump. He can't will with numbers like that.

 

[Mr Spinkles]

I don't see a 20 point difference, but I mock the taking pride in poll status differences.

Subtract 30 from 50 and you get 20.

 

[Revoltingest]

Subtract 30 from 50 and you get 20.

Poll numbers as a function of time are seldom such a simple thing.
Btw, does it matter to you if your party's pol is more popular with the general public than the other's?
To me, it's irrelevant....I'm used to my candidates scoring at the very bottom.
Seeking validation in approval strikes me as rather lame.

 

[Mr Spinkles]

Poll numbers as a function of time are seldom such a simple thing.

What is complicated about Bush being at 30% and Obama at 50% approval ratings at the end of their terms? It strikes me as very simple but maybe I'm missing something.

Btw, does it matter to you if your party's pol is more popular with the general public than the other's?
To me, it's irrelevant....I'm used to my candidates scoring at the very bottom.
Seeking validation in approval strikes me as rather lame.

I agree it doesn't matter too much. You mentioned Obama being "slightly less loathed" than Bush, I was curious to see if that was actually true so I googled it and thought I'd share the results for everyone's edification. No it doesn't prove Obama was a better (or good) president.

 

[Mr Spinkles]

No, it is not because he is the "least bad". I may or may not agree with all of his ideas, but I support the majority of them.

Thank you. Which ideas do you disagree with?

 

[Revoltingest]

What is complicated about Bush being at 30% and Obama at 50% approval ratings at the end of their terms? It strikes me as very simple but maybe I'm missing something.

Referring to this....
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/01/12/presidential-job-approval-ratings-from-ike-to-obama/
We find this.....

To claim a singular numerical difference between 2 time dependent functions isn't very meaningful.

 

[esmith]

Thank you. Which ideas do you disagree with?

Let's just put it this way. Demeanor at times

 

[Mr Spinkles]

Referring to this....
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/01/12/presidential-job-approval-ratings-from-ike-to-obama/
We find this.....

To claim a singular numerical difference between 2 time dependent functions isn't very meaningful.

That's not what is being claimed. Approval rating is a time dependent function with many values. The last measured approval rating is not. The latter equals 20 percentage points Bush vs. Obama. It actually does tell us something meaningful about the attitude of the country that this value is 20 and not, say, 2 (or "slight" as you put it).