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Would you Vote for Trump?

Vote for Trump?

  • Yes

    Votes: 9 14.3%
  • No

    Votes: 54 85.7%

  • Total voters
    63

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I voted no. I admit that he is entertaining to watch but as a candidate I would seriously consider voting for, no. For one I believe he would be dangerous as a president internationally as well as extremely divisive domestically. As a whole a disaster.

Phisically survive you will, for the most part, probably. At a price that is forgivable or repairable, though? I truly doubt it.

Maybe. Look at the eroding condition of the middle class. In order to benefit in this country you have to be either dirt poor, or filthy rich.

A large number of people are simply getting sick and tired of political thugs grabbing just about everything out of their wallets and furthermore railroaded into conformity at the expense of freedom admist tired worn out cliche's.

"Tyranny of the minority" some people have called it.

Should benefit all. Everyone. Not just select groups and individuals akin with robbing Peter to pay Paul.

That's not the America I had understood.

Trumps certainly not the answer, but I'm hoping all this becomes a significant wake up call.
 

Tomorrows_Child

Active Member
Maybe. Look at the eroding condition of the middle class. In order to benefit in this country you have to be either dirt poor, or filthy rich.

A large number of people are simply getting sick and tired of political thugs grabbing just about everything out of their wallets and furthermore railroaded into conformity at the expense of freedom admist tired worn out cliche's.

"Tyranny of the minority" some people have called it.

Should benefit all. Everyone. Not just select groups and individuals akin with robbing Peter to pay Paul.

That's not the America I had understood.

Trumps certainly not the answer, but I'm hoping all this becomes a significant wake up call.

The dirt poor are benefiting? How so?

Sounds like some people listen to too much of Trump's erroneous rhetoric.

"A new report from the Immigration Policy Center notes that while the illegal immigrant population in the U.S. more than tripled between 1990 and 2013 to more than 11.2 million, “FBI data indicate that the violent crime rate declined 48%—which included falling rates of aggravated assault, robbery, rape, and murder. Likewise, the property crime rate fell 41%, including declining rates of motor vehicle theft, larceny/robbery, and burglary.”

A separate IPC paper from 2007 explains that this is not a function of well-behaved high-skilled immigrants from India and China offsetting misdeeds of Latin American newcomers. The data show that “for every ethnic group without exception, incarceration rates among young men are lowest for immigrants,” according to the report. “This holds true especially for the Mexicans, Salvadorans, and Guatemalans who make up the bulk of the undocumented population.”

http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-mythical-connection-between-immigrants-and-crime-1436916798

Don't let stats get in the way of popular speeches.

You did it again, SweetOne. By coming across the border and entering your country illegally, they become criminals in the process. In no way am I implying that they contribute to raw conventional crime stats. They do however break one or more federal laws by sneaking across your border and that criminal behavior should be recognized for what it is. You can pretend I meant something more sinister, but you would be quite wrong.

It was an easy enough mistake to make. Considering how you worded your post.
 

Tomorrows_Child

Active Member
Btw, some people have voted yes but given no reason why they have done so. There's no reason to just vote in the poll and leave. I doubt anyone will attack you on voting for Trump.

I'm interested in opinions, especially American.

What do people make of Trumps foreign policy?
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Btw, some people have voted yes but given no reason why they have done so. There's no reason to just vote in the poll and leave. I doubt anyone will attack you on voting for Trump.

I'm interested in opinions, especially American.

What do people make of Trumps foreign policy?
Heaven knows. He has shown complete ineptness on foreign policy issues, often contradicting himself, so he maybe he'll decide such matters on a flip of the coin.
 

Guy Threepwood

Mighty Pirate
A very popular topic these days and open to Americans and non-Americans, would you, if Trump was a candidate in your country, vote for him?

Please try and give reasons why.

I wanted to conduct a poll and see who would/wouldn't and why?

I don't like his protectionist policies, or raising taxes on the wealthy

But as terrifying as the alternative is at this point, he'd get my vote.

On foreign policy, I think he could help repair some of the damage of the last 7 years.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
I don't like his protectionist policies, or raising taxes on the wealthy

But as terrifying as the alternative is at this point, he'd get my vote.

On foreign policy, I think he could help repair some of the damage of the last 7 years.
Except that Obama has been substantially more popular overseas than our previous president, plus even the House of Commons in the U.K. had a discussion back in February whether to disallow Trump from even entering their country. "Trump" is a one-word joke throughout Europe and undoubtedly elsewhere, and they're also struggling with their own right-wing nut-jobs let alone having to put up with ours.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Except that Obama has been substantially more popular overseas than our previous president, plus even the House of Commons in the U.K. had a discussion back in February whether to disallow Trump from even entering their country. "Trump" is a one-word joke throughout Europe and undoubtedly elsewhere, and they're also struggling with their own right-wing nut-jobs let alone having to put up with ours.
Overseas popularity is over-rated.
I'm concerned with what a prez will effect, not whether ferriners love'm.
 

Acim

Revelation all the time
Yes. I could. I won't, but I could.

Post #6 of this thread explains reasons why, that I consider legit.

If choice were between Trump and Hillary, and I were inclined to vote, I'd have I think no regret in choosing Trump.

Between Trump and Bernie, it would be pretty close to a toss up. I'd lean Trump, but either one being chosen and having say 4 years under their belt would likely lead me to think it would've been better with the other choice.

Between Trump and all other Pub candidates (or the 17 that were there at the start), I would've selected any of them over Trump. So, of the two currently remaining, I'd easily choose them over Trump, and for sure would choose either of them over pretty much any Dem, but for sure the two that are currently likely to be the candidate.

I feel very unlikely to vote, but haven't ruled it out. I do think the American electorate deserves a Trump and Hillary battle given how farcical I see voting. I look forward to the entertainment that will be their debates, though am currently semi certain Trump will not be the Pub nominee.
 

roger1440

I do stuff
I don’t vote. I learned a long time ago politicians kiss more than just babies. Aside from that I found something interesting on the Internet recently.


Given Name DONALD
GENDER: Masculine
USAGE: Scottish, English
PRONOUNCED: DAHN-əld (English) [key]

Meaning & History
From the Gaelic name Domhnall which means "ruler of the world",composed of the old Celtic elements dumno "world" and val "rule". This was the name of two 9th-century kings of the Scots and Picts. It has traditionally been very popular in Scotland, and during the 20th century it became common in the rest of the English-speaking world. This is the name of one of Walt Disney's most popular cartoon characters, Donald Duck. It was also borne by Australian cricket player Donald Bradman (1908-2001). http://www.behindthename.com/name/donald


Trump
verb
Trump is defined as to get the better of someone using a hidden resource.
http://www.yourdictionary.com/trump
 

David1967

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I don’t vote. I learned a long time ago politicians kiss more than just babies. Aside from that I found something interesting on the Internet recently.


Given Name DONALD
GENDER: Masculine
USAGE: Scottish, English
PRONOUNCED: DAHN-əld (English) [key]

Meaning & History
From the Gaelic name Domhnall which means "ruler of the world",composed of the old Celtic elements dumno "world" and val "rule". This was the name of two 9th-century kings of the Scots and Picts. It has traditionally been very popular in Scotland, and during the 20th century it became common in the rest of the English-speaking world. This is the name of one of Walt Disney's most popular cartoon characters, Donald Duck. It was also borne by Australian cricket player Donald Bradman (1908-2001). http://www.behindthename.com/name/Donald




So when people call him "The Donald", they are inadvertently addressing him as "ruler of the world"?
 

Tomorrows_Child

Active Member
I don’t vote. I learned a long time ago politicians kiss more than just babies. Aside from that I found something interesting on the Internet recently.


Given Name DONALD
GENDER: Masculine
USAGE: Scottish, English
PRONOUNCED: DAHN-əld (English) [key]

Meaning & History
From the Gaelic name Domhnall which means "ruler of the world",composed of the old Celtic elements dumno "world" and val "rule". This was the name of two 9th-century kings of the Scots and Picts. It has traditionally been very popular in Scotland, and during the 20th century it became common in the rest of the English-speaking world. This is the name of one of Walt Disney's most popular cartoon characters, Donald Duck. It was also borne by Australian cricket player Donald Bradman (1908-2001). http://www.behindthename.com/name/donald


Trump
verb
Trump is defined as to get the better of someone using a hidden resource.
http://www.yourdictionary.com/trump

wow, kinda suits you him lol

Also, why do you not vote?

I don't like his protectionist policies, or raising taxes on the wealthy

But as terrifying as the alternative is at this point, he'd get my vote.

On foreign policy, I think he could help repair some of the damage of the last 7 years.

What do you mean by protectionists policies?

And why would you disagree with raising taxes on the wealthy, surely they have more so should give more?

And do you really believe someone like Trump would be better overseas than Obama? Who wasn't even that good in the first place

A confused, nativist rant does not a foreign policy make.

Maybe I should ask, does he even have a foreign policy?

Yes. I could. I won't, but I could.

Post #6 of this thread explains reasons why, that I consider legit.

If choice were between Trump and Hillary, and I were inclined to vote, I'd have I think no regret in choosing Trump.

Between Trump and Bernie, it would be pretty close to a toss up. I'd lean Trump, but either one being chosen and having say 4 years under their belt would likely lead me to think it would've been better with the other choice.

Between Trump and all other Pub candidates (or the 17 that were there at the start), I would've selected any of them over Trump. So, of the two currently remaining, I'd easily choose them over Trump, and for sure would choose either of them over pretty much any Dem, but for sure the two that are currently likely to be the candidate.

I feel very unlikely to vote, but haven't ruled it out. I do think the American electorate deserves a Trump and Hillary battle given how farcical I see voting. I look forward to the entertainment that will be their debates, though am currently semi certain Trump will not be the Pub nominee.

What I asked previously, why would you not vote?
 

Guy Threepwood

Mighty Pirate
wow, kinda suits you him lol

Also, why do you not vote?



What do you mean by protectionists policies?

And why would you disagree with raising taxes on the wealthy, surely they have more so should give more?

And do you really believe someone like Trump would be better overseas than Obama? Who wasn't even that good in the first place

Clamping down on free trade, imposing tariffs to 'protect' American jobs, I think that hurts more than helps, especially the poorest people forced to pay more for products.

The wealthy do pay more already, I'm all for wealth being transferred from rich to poor, but taxes do something entirely different, they transfer wealth from private hands to politicians, more often the exact opposite.
It seldom goes to the needy, far more often to relatively well off government workers, getting a fat early retirement from a useless job.

I think when we whittle away all the superfluous government activity- it's core job is to defend the interests of the country internationally, that's what it was created for, the one thing it can at least hypothetically do better than it's citizens can- because you have to deal with other governments, you have to know how to make good deals with them. It's not just about getting people to like you, and besides they will like you more when they respect you for standing up for yourself and your country- not sycophantically apologizing for it.
 

GoodbyeDave

Well-Known Member
I would not vote for Trump (how aptly named!) under any circumstances. I think he should be disqualified from the human race.
 

Acim

Revelation all the time
What I asked previously, why would you not vote?

For Trump? Because I do not see him as an actual conservative Republican. (Short answer)

I'm also a proud non-voter. I see voting as part of the problem. I have around 15 reasons for why I choose not to vote. I allow myself to vote whenever I see fit. In the last 20 years, I have not seen good reason to vote for a POTUS candidate, or at least compared with my reasons for not voting.
 
For Trump? Because I do not see him as an actual conservative Republican. (Short answer)

I'm also a proud non-voter. I see voting as part of the problem. I have around 15 reasons for why I choose not to vote. I allow myself to vote whenever I see fit. In the last 20 years, I have not seen good reason to vote for a POTUS candidate, or at least compared with my reasons for not voting.
Trump's personal attributes have nothing to do with your decision not to vote for him?
 
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