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Writing your own scripture

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
1 God loves us.
2 God created us to love and be loved.
3 As a being of unconditional love, God invites us to have a loving relationship with Him.
4 Since God loves all, entering into a relationship with Him commits us to loving all.
5 This is eternal life, it begins now and extends into forever.
6 Go forth and love God with all your might, with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your being.
7 Go forth and love all whom God loves (i.e., everyone)
8 Have fun; be joyful.
9 Always remember, and do not forget, how much God loves you and how much you are loved by those who love God.
10 Always remember, and do not forget, how much God loves others and join God in that love.

Okay? Guess ever could put that in his scripture too. What are you referring to?
 

Meriweather

Not all those who wander are lost
Okay? Guess ever could put that in his scripture too. What are you referring to?

Yes, everyone could put that into his/her scripture. Take a look at scripture, and the underlying theme are people's experiences of God. My experiences of God should not be the basis for someone else to live their life. I am saying start out with these universal truths, live them, and watch each one's personal scripture (i.e., experience of God) write itself. Scripture starts with something. The above is where mine starts.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Yes, everyone could put that into his/her scripture. Take a look at scripture, and the underlying theme are people's experiences of God. My experiences of God should not be the basis for someone else to live their life. I am saying start out with these universal truths, live them, and watch each one's personal scripture (i.e., experience of God) write itself. Scripture starts with something. The above is where mine starts.
Those aren't truths. Universal means everyone at least know these are truth even if they choose to disbelieve it. Those are truths that you may adhere to. Maybe Ever has different morals and beliefs.

The world word scripture is not Abrahamic. I can see why you would be uncomfortable but creating one own scripture is not wrong if one is respectful and even that has thin lines
 

arthra

Baha'i
Whar things would go in our scripture? Scripture as in abrahamic? Wiccans have the Book of Shadows.

What would you put or how would make or define your personal scripture?

For me scripture is not something I would write....

Now I'll share a true story....I recall a fella some years ago now on beliefnet that claimed he could compose scripture and he asked me to tell him what I thought about his "scripture"...so I read what he wrote...Well I wanted to be honesty with him but at the same time I didn't want to hurt his feelings either....suffice it to say his "scripture" didn't measure up very well... Sometime after that he apologized for claiming he could write scripture.

All the attempts made to write scripture that I know about have failed...and generate very little interest. There's something about the revealed Word of God that has it's own power of attraction even after many years and centuries.
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
My so called scripture is written on my heart, if I wrote it for others then it wouldn't be mine, a feel that we all need to go within and find that which is written on our heart, scriptures that have been around for thousand's of years haven't really done much good at all, because we all fight over who's is better than the other, this is not how scripture should be used, this is the ego's scripture that blinds us all.
 

EverChanging

Well-Known Member
From: http://www.religiousforums.com/threads/writing-your-own-scriptures.181391/#post-4495000 @EverChanging

I thought about it once. Takes a lot of time and effort. Whar things would go in our scripture? Scripture as in abrahamic? Wiccans have the Book of Shadows.

What would you put or how would make or define your personal scripture?
Carlita,

Thanks for helping with the discussion!

My original thread describes a bit where I wanted to go with this and why I thought of this idea in the first place. Basically I celebrate my own version of the Eucharist/Holy Communion which is similar but still quite a different take on what that Sacrament means to most Christians. I decided to harmonize my celebration of these rites (there are two) with the church year that I am already synced in with through my more mainstream Anglican practice (Advent, Christmas, Epiphany, Lent, and so on). In the Episcopal Church we do this partly with short prayers (collects) summarizing the theme of the day or festival and the Bible readings for that date which are determined by the lectionary. However, I was having a hard time harmonizing the lectionary or even modifying the lectionary readings to suit my rites because my focus is more esoteric (inner truth) and much of the New Testament (which is mostly what the traditional lectionaries use for the readings) is concerned at least to a large extent with certain versions of history and certain doctrines that often vary somewhat depending on the book or author, although the lectionary does shape the meaning that comes to be read in the text. Even after altering the collects I have still struggled with this. The lectionary readings work fine at the Anglican mass. I don't have a problem with the Bible! But I just don't think they are the best for the rites I am doing.

I am not trying to write scripture in the sense of a document that is infallible in any way or binding on anyone. It might even be better to call it a form of poetry should I actually begin with this project and succeed, just so people don't get the wrong idea. My practice is not really something that could easily be organized into a religion by its very nature, although it could be passed on from person to person, giving each person total freedom to develop or even change it.

When I have the time to start on this I have chosen to proceed as follows: I will simply write a piece of poetry (or scripture) for each collect and Sunday of the season of the church year. So Advent deals with the coming of Christ, the coming of the light, Christmas with his birth, Epiphany has undertones of light and the Holy Spirit, and so on. I could write a short piece -- even ten verses -- for each Sunday throughout the Church year, finally progressing through the Trinity season which has themes of purgation, illumination, and finally Divine Union.

Depending on how I write it perhaps each piece could be pieced together as one long poem, but I basically intend for this to grow out of the liturgy. I will have to choose which form this will take. A dialogue? A narrative? A combination? Anyway, this idea of how to structure it only came to me in the last thread. It does seem like it will be easier to work on it with this method than simply sitting down and trying to write a book like the gospel of Matthew. What I do intend to be different about the writings is that they will express mythic imagery and draw from wisdom literature -- biblical, apocryphal, and so on -- and not in the least bit be concerned with history. It should be obvious should I succeed with a project like this that the writings are symbolic.

Any thoughts or ideas on something like this are welcome. I originally posted about this topic in the Gnostic forum as I had heard some Gnostics ancient and modern wrote their own gospels. I came across one on this forum some years ago who claimed he did just that, although he had since converted to Catholicism. It would be interesting to read something like that and see where people went with it. Right now I'm thinking of consulting different gnostic texts for inspiration along with the lectionary I was working with, although unlike some of the gnostic scriptures, I do not at all have a negative view of the body, matter, or embodiment. On that score I'm pretty much in line with my mainstream Anglican sacramental tradition -- the cosmos is holy.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Care to decipher that?
Whatever the OP wants to put in his created scripture, thats his choice. Maybe God wouls be a good tenant for his scripture, I dont know. Youd have to ask him.

As for quoting and talking about god, maybe you are refering to the OP? Im not i gerested in God so you're talking to the wrong person...unless youre educating me?
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Carlita,

Thanks for helping with the discussion!

My original thread describes a bit where I wanted to go with this and why I thought of this idea in the first place. Basically I celebrate my own version of the Eucharist/Holy Communion which is similar but still quite a different take on what that Sacrament means to most Christians. I decided to harmonize my celebration of these rites (there are two) with the church year that I am already synced in with through my more mainstream Anglican practice (Advent, Christmas, Epiphany, Lent, and so on). In the Episcopal Church we do this partly with short prayers (collects) summarizing the theme of the day or festival and the Bible readings for that date which are determined by the lectionary. However, I was having a hard time harmonizing the lectionary or even modifying the lectionary readings to suit my rites because my focus is more esoteric (inner truth) and much of the New Testament (which is mostly what the traditional lectionaries use for the readings) is concerned at least to a large extent with certain versions of history and certain doctrines that often vary somewhat depending on the book or author, although the lectionary does shape the meaning that comes to be read in the text. Even after altering the collects I have still struggled with this. The lectionary readings work fine at the Anglican mass. I don't have a problem with the Bible! But I just don't think they are the best for the rites I am doing.

I am not trying to write scripture in the sense of a document that is infallible in any way or binding on anyone. It might even be better to call it a form of poetry should I actually begin with this project and succeed, just so people don't get the wrong idea. My practice is not really something that could easily be organized into a religion by its very nature, although it could be passed on from person to person, giving each person total freedom to develop or even change it.

When I have the time to start on this I have chosen to proceed as follows: I will simply write a piece of poetry (or scripture) for each collect and Sunday of the season of the church year. So Advent deals with the coming of Christ, the coming of the light, Christmas with his birth, Epiphany has undertones of light and the Holy Spirit, and so on. I could write a short piece -- even ten verses -- for each Sunday throughout the Church year, finally progressing through the Trinity season which has themes of purgation, illumination, and finally Divine Union.

Depending on how I write it perhaps each piece could be pieced together as one long poem, but I basically intend for this to grow out of the liturgy. I will have to choose which form this will take. A dialogue? A narrative? A combination? Anyway, this idea of how to structure it only came to me in the last thread. It does seem like it will be easier to work on it with this method than simply sitting down and trying to write a book like the gospel of Matthew. What I do intend to be different about the writings is that they will express mythic imagery and draw from wisdom literature -- biblical, apocryphal, and so on -- and not in the least bit be concerned with history. It should be obvious should I succeed with a project like this that the writings are symbolic.

Any thoughts or ideas on something like this are welcome. I originally posted about this topic in the Gnostic forum as I had heard some Gnostics ancient and modern wrote their own gospels. I came across one on this forum some years ago who claimed he did just that, although he had since converted to Catholicism. It would be interesting to read something like that and see where people went with it. Right now I'm thinking of consulting different gnostic texts for inspiration along with the lectionary I was working with, although unlike some of the gnostic scriptures, I do not at all have a negative view of the body, matter, or embodiment. On that score I'm pretty much in line with my mainstream Anglican sacramental tradition -- the cosmos is holy.
I will read this in full later on a computer; but, my first impression is, so you believe thr Church is the authority to intepret and add to scripture? Many popes "added" to scripture due their rights. Others, like the consonicals of popes and theologians write their thouhts ans teachings related to Church theology.

What youre describing is like that, and thats perfectfully fine. I dont know the differences in, you said angelican? And roman catholic but as long as you have basics you good. Poetry etc are good too.

Calling it scripture to others may ruffle some feathers without explanation. Maybe commentary? Or a simili?
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
In Hinduism, you can certainly write the scriptures. A new purana (histories), upanishads (discourses), advice (Gitas), dharma-shastras (law books detailing what people in your time are doing and what they should do). If what you write stands the test of time, if that has any substance, then it would be accepted as a scripture. A case in point is 'Rama Charit Manas', the story of Lord Rama in Awadhi language. It was written in the 16th Century and is now one of the most revered scripture of Hinduism. Another example is 'Janaeshwari' in Marathi language. It was written in the 13th Century. Etc.
 

Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
Whatever the OP wants to put in his created scripture, thats his choice. Maybe God wouls be a good tenant for his scripture, I dont know. Youd have to ask him.

As for quoting and talking about god, maybe you are refering to the OP? Im not i gerested in God so you're talking to the wrong person...unless youre educating me?
You are the OP, so I don't understand that. No matter. You asked what would you put in your scripture and I posted. Your answer to that was that you were not interested. Somewhere in that is something worth knowing I'm sure, but it escapes me.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
You are the OP, so I don't understand that. No matter. You asked what would you put in your scripture and I posted. Your answer to that was that you were not interested. Somewhere in that is something worth knowing I'm sure, but it escapes me.
That link is the answer/question to the OP in that thread not my own. I cant answer his question in a DIR
 

EverChanging

Well-Known Member
I will read this in full later on a computer; but, my first impression is, so you believe thr Church is the authority to intepret and add to scripture? Many popes "added" to scripture due their rights. Others, like the consonicals of popes and theologians write their thouhts ans teachings related to Church theology.

Well, churches do interpret scripture and do choose what they count as canonical, and they have the authority to do so for their own communities I suppose. I also have the authority to write my own scriptures in my opinion. I only said I might prefer to call them poetry instead because often-times when people from certain religious backgrounds hear the word "scripture" they think of infallibility or that everyone must adhere to a certain religion. I reject those concepts out of hand.

Of course my ideas about these things are not mainstream in Christian thought. Suffice it to say there were many "unorthodox" groups in early Christianity that still valued a connection to the church before they were eventually eradicated. In the Anglican tradition with its ancient heritage and lineage of bishops I am still connected to the church going back through the centuries, but it is inclusive of people with many ideas, at least here in America. So my private practices and any scriptures that grew out of that complement my Anglican practice: it is similar to syncretism but since it occurs on an individual level I suppose "eclectic" is the proper term.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Well, churches do interpret scripture and do choose what they count as canonical, and they have the authority to do so for their own communities I suppose. I also have the authority to write my own scriptures in my opinion. I only said I might prefer to call them poetry instead because often-tihmes when people from certain religious backgrounds hear the word "scripture" they think of infallibility or that everyone must adhere to a certain religion. I reject those concepts out of hand.

Of course my ideas about these things are not mainstream in Christian thought. Suffice it to say there were many "unorthodox" groups in early Christianity that still valued a connection to the church before they were eventually eradicated. In the Anglican tradition with its ancient heritage and lineage of bishops I am still connected to the church going back through the centuries, but it is inclusive of people with many ideas, at least here in America. So my private practices and any scriptures that grew out of that complement my Anglican practice: it is similar to syncretism but since it occurs on an individual level I suppose "eclectic" is the proper term.

I see no problem with that. I can see why "scriptures" wouldnt be good word to use. Thomas Jefferson, I believed, wrote his own bible. Called it "The Jefferson Bible"

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/how-thomas-jefferson-created-his-own-bible-5659505/

Id just be mindful if the poetry you write conflicts with Church teachings. If it doesnt, by all means go wild.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
I thought about it once. Takes a lot of time and effort.

It only takes as much time and effort as one is willing and able to invest. Nothing more, nothing less.

That said, as someone who has been working on a "scripture" for the past decade (and will be for decades to come), yeah. It takes a monstrous amount of time and effort when done seriously. I should be getting paid for it or something. There's probably the equivalent of at least half a dozen books that I could pull out of the stuff I've written, had I the inclination. Fortunately (or unfortunately, depending on point of view), I lack that inclination.


Whar things would go in our scripture?

Whatever you want. Sometimes, what you leave out says as much as what you put in.

"Scripture" is really the wrong word to use for what I do, though, as that term is specific to Abrahamic religions and has connotations that are likely inappropriate outside of those religions. There's absolutely nothing dogmatic or incontrovertible about the things I write. I view it as a perpetual work in progress, hence, it's been worked on for around a decade, and will be worked on until the day I can no longer do so.


What would you put or how would make or define your personal scripture?

Different approaches for different folks. What you put in depends on the role it is intended to serve. Some will populate the tomes with content written by others, make it a sort of compilation. Others will only include personally written material. Some may fuss over citations and footnotes, others compose everything with rhyme and meter. Just... whatever you want it to be.
 
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