Is that like "the Bible is correct because it says it is"?
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Yajurveda: “This battle is the source of thy prosperity; hence we goad thee to that battle”
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Is that like "the Bible is correct because it says it is"?
I was doing some further reading on this just this morning, and there was a spot ( I couldn't find it just now) where later archeologists proved that was once originally thought to be a horse wasn't actually a horse at all, but some other animal.
Here is more recent stuff. http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-new-research-debunks-aryan-invasion-theory-1623744
http://archaeologyonline.net/artifacts/aryan-invasion-history
http://www.stephen-knapp.com/aryan_invasion_theory_the_final_nail_in_its_coffin.htm
https://arisebharat.com/2008/01/21/bbc-accepts-that-the-aryan-invasion-theory-is-flawed/
In short, there are dozens of papers disproving the AIT, and it's later sister, AMT. One can keep with the modern times and research, or choose to live in antiquity. One of the critiques used by the anti-Hindu crowd is only that Hindus are disputing it. This is also not true. It's western anthropologists, gene researchers, and archeologists who are refuting it.
Here is more recent stuff. http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-new-research-debunks-aryan-invasion-theory-1623744
http://archaeologyonline.net/artifacts/aryan-invasion-history
http://www.stephen-knapp.com/aryan_invasion_theory_the_final_nail_in_its_coffin.htm
https://arisebharat.com/2008/01/21/bbc-accepts-that-the-aryan-invasion-theory-is-flawed/
In short, there are dozens of papers disproving the AIT, and it's later sister, AMT. One can keep with the modern times and research, or choose to live in antiquity. One of the critiques used by the anti-Hindu crowd is only that Hindus are disputing it. This is also not true. It's western anthropologists, gene researchers, and archeologists who are refuting it.
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Satyamavejayanti
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Namaste,
For sure, I will give you a quote, but you have to answer Vinayaka's query of "Please quote from the Yajurveda where it says one must quote from the Yajurveda in order to prove that it is in the Yajurveda. Otherwise there is no proof". before i can provide my "proof".
Once you can provide this, I will answer.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
Yajurveda: “This battle is the source of thy prosperity; hence we goad thee to that battle”
Chapter XV (15) Verse 36
36. O ruler equipped with a good army, worthy of praise with words, provider of dwelling to his subjects, affluent, brilliant, and resembling fire, grant us laudable riches.
https://archive.org/stream/yajurveda029670mbp/yajurveda029670mbp_djvu.txt
Regards
Chapter XV (15) Verse 36
36. O ruler equipped with a good army, worthy of praise with words, provider of dwelling to his subjects, affluent, brilliant, and resembling fire, grant us laudable riches.
https://archive.org/stream/yajurveda029670mbp/yajurveda029670mbp_djvu.txt
Regards
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
Lots, if not all history is flawed.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
The point is:
"36. O ruler equipped with a good army, worthy of praise with words, provider of dwelling to his subjects, affluent, brilliant, and resembling fire, grant us laudable riches."
https://archive.org/stream/yajurveda029670mbp/yajurveda029670mbp_djvu.txt
Veda exhorts in prayer of a "good army" that is source of "riches". Right? Please
Regards
"36. O ruler equipped with a good army, worthy of praise with words, provider of dwelling to his subjects, affluent, brilliant, and resembling fire, grant us laudable riches."
https://archive.org/stream/yajurveda029670mbp/yajurveda029670mbp_djvu.txt
Veda exhorts in prayer of a "good army" that is source of "riches". Right? Please
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Nyingjé Tso
Dharma not drama
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paarsurrey
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Wow!
Regards
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I must contemplate this!
It's so weird seeing him as not-Loki.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
Yajurveda: “This battle is the source of thy prosperity; hence we goad thee to that battle”
Yajurveda CHAPTER XXI
31. Just as a Hota worships the Lord who sends to jail the wicked
persons and is praised by the subjects, uses medicine with water, solidifies
the force of the warriors of a general, who rends asunder the ignoble
foes, or just as a preacher is a mental healer, or a speech full of knowledge
acts like a physician, or just as a conveyance helps us in reaching our
destination, so does a wealthy person help us for success in life. Just as
the strength of a foe-killing king, manages the air flights between the
earth and heaven, or just as an intelligent person uses well received moral
instructions as medicine like the jujube fruit, so shouldst a sacrificer along
with children, offer butter oblations, full of milk, well pressed juice of
medicines, ghee and honey.
https://archive.org/stream/yajurveda029670mbp/yajurveda029670mbp_djvu.txt
I tried to look into Yajurveda as to what enemies/foes did the Aryans have to face against whom they had to had raise an army headed by not a less than a general to fight against for their properity, but could no locate in it. Will anybody help us in this regards? It is also not clear in what land/country/ies these foes lived and the people of Vedic period. Anybdoy tp quote from Yajurveda in this connection. Will one? Please
Regards
Yajurveda CHAPTER XXI
31. Just as a Hota worships the Lord who sends to jail the wicked
persons and is praised by the subjects, uses medicine with water, solidifies
the force of the warriors of a general, who rends asunder the ignoble
foes, or just as a preacher is a mental healer, or a speech full of knowledge
acts like a physician, or just as a conveyance helps us in reaching our
destination, so does a wealthy person help us for success in life. Just as
the strength of a foe-killing king, manages the air flights between the
earth and heaven, or just as an intelligent person uses well received moral
instructions as medicine like the jujube fruit, so shouldst a sacrificer along
with children, offer butter oblations, full of milk, well pressed juice of
medicines, ghee and honey.
https://archive.org/stream/yajurveda029670mbp/yajurveda029670mbp_djvu.txt
I tried to look into Yajurveda as to what enemies/foes did the Aryans have to face against whom they had to had raise an army headed by not a less than a general to fight against for their properity, but could no locate in it. Will anybody help us in this regards? It is also not clear in what land/country/ies these foes lived and the people of Vedic period. Anybdoy tp quote from Yajurveda in this connection. Will one? Please
Regards
You were already told that's a metaphor for one's internal struggles and wars. Y'know... like the true meaning of jihad?
We did.
No, not at all.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
Jihad are two type:
- The primary one is for self-purification against the negative forces in the self.
- If an aggressor declares a was by attacking or breaking the Peace-Pact, but the details of such battles are with conditions set forth in the Quran. It is a secondary/temporary measure and is abhorred by Quran to make an aggressive war, only defensive war with conditions is permitted.
Regards
Why did you not start with the Rig Veda? Or, have you already read it? I ask because the Rig is usually seen as the oldest and therefore seems like the best place to start. How can you talk about what beliefs are "Vedic" and what is a later addition if you skip the very beginning?