Yet another hypothetical (moral) scenario...

[NIX]

If the only way to save a baby from immediate death was to take it that very day, regardless of whatever else may be going on in your life (regardless of your financial situation, regardless of your work schedule, personal plans, other kids or anything else),
and adopt it as your own- would you do it?

 

[NIX]

I'm a bit surprised no one wants to play.

 

[Alceste]

Yes, I would. If someone left a baby at my doorstep, I'd raise it as my own. It's just not that easy to get your hands on a baby these days.

Edit: not sure that's a moral question for me. I just like kids.

 

[Me Myself]

If I was in front of it, probably.

The fact of the matter is that we let a lot of babies or human beings die by omission every day and we support terrible things to other human beings every day by buying products made by Chinese underpaid workers many of which are underaged and underslept.

I am certain most of us have money that we usually use in recreation. This money can very well be used to send it to african people who are starving to death for example or to aid on the research of treatment of dangerous diseases, etc.

So almost everyone is guilty of letting human beings die by omission. Least I would venture to say very little exceptions are prone to be on this forum. (I wouldnt be one of them)

 

[ChristineES]

If the only way to save a baby from immediate death was to take it that very day, regardless of whatever else may be going on in your life (regardless of your financial situation, regardless of your work schedule, personal plans, other kids or anything else),
and adopt it as your own- would you do it?

Yeah, I think I would. I know of a family who adopted a baby girl from China and raised her. The girl, who is 15 now, is my daughter's best friend. The problem is that it is so hard to adopt children nowadays.

 

[9Westy9]

Yes. Even though I don't have the finances I know the government would provide finances for me (The UK are awesome at that stuff )

 

[Alceste]

Yeah, I think I would. I know of a family who adopted a baby girl from China and raised her. The girl, who is 15 now, is my daughter's best friend. The problem is that it is so hard to adopt children nowadays.

I had to look at adoption files in the UK as part of my job. To be honest, it sort of put me off adopting. The system we have in place seems to be extremely cumbersome and psychologically destructive for the child, and burdensome on the aspiring parents. A child is certain to be irreparably psychologically damaged by prolonged neglect or abuse from the birth parents by the time you can adopt through the system. And even if you manage to successfully adopt, there are still no guarantees. I have friends who adopted two kids. When their youngest was three or four, his biological uncle sued for custody and won. It was absolutely heart-breaking, both for them and for the child.

Assuming we're ever in a position to look after kids, I'll be looking into open adoption.

 

[Willamena]

If the only way to save a baby from immediate death was to take it that very day, regardless of whatever else may be going on in your life (regardless of your financial situation, regardless of your work schedule, personal plans, other kids or anything else),
and adopt it as your own- would you do it?

Do I have to kidnap it?

That sounds like work.

 

[Alceste]

Yes. Even though I don't have the finances I know the government would provide finances for me (The UK are awesome at that stuff )

They do their best, that's for sure. But it's still hard to adopt a child young enough to ensure they have not been irreparably damaged by early neglect and abuse. Before social services will remove a child from a terrible situation, they do everything they can to try to sort out the parents.

 

[jarofthoughts]

If the only way to save a baby from immediate death was to take it that very day, regardless of whatever else may be going on in your life (regardless of your financial situation, regardless of your work schedule, personal plans, other kids or anything else),
and adopt it as your own- would you do it?

In that (extremely) hypothetical scenario, yes, of course I would.
I'm not about to let another person die right in front of me if I can do something about it.
And the 'right in front of me' part is, of course, psychologically vital, as I'm sure you already know.

Now spring the trap if you will.

 

[NIX]

Do I have to kidnap it?

That sounds like work.

LOL. I suppose anything can happen in a ridiculous hypothetical moral situation thread. I wasn't thinking that anyone would let you adopt a kidnapped baby, but hey. How much more far fetched is it than the OP?

 

[NIX]

Yes. Even though I don't have the finances I know the government would provide finances for me (The UK are awesome at that stuff )

The children have to be taken care of somehow. If it takes everyone's tax money, so be it. Societies should take care of their children. It should be a priority. IMO.

 

[Me Myself]

LOL. I suppose anything can happen in a ridiculous hypothetical moral situation thread. I wasn't thinking that anyone would let you adopt a kidnapped baby, but hey. How much more far fetched is it than the OP?

http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/games-pics-jokes-stories/137559-moraly-woorse-y.html

U asked

 

[NIX]

I had to look at adoption files in the UK as part of my job. To be honest, it sort of put me off adopting. The system we have in place seems to be extremely cumbersome and psychologically destructive for the child, and burdensome on the aspiring parents. A child is certain to be irreparably psychologically damaged by prolonged neglect or abuse from the birth parents by the time you can adopt through the system. And even if you manage to successfully adopt, there are still no guarantees. I have friends who adopted two kids. When their youngest was three or four, his biological uncle sued for custody and won. It was absolutely heart-breaking, both for them and for the child.

Assuming we're ever in a position to look after kids, I'll be looking into open adoption.

Sometimes real life is more twisted and ridiculous than hypothetical moral scenarios. And certainly more painful.

 

[NIX]

In that (extremely) hypothetical scenario, yes, of course I would.
I'm not about to let another person die right in front of me if I can do something about it.
And the 'right in front of me' part is, of course, psychologically vital, as I'm sure you already know.

Now spring the trap if you will.

Nah. There's not really any trap here. I'm pragmatic enough to know that my life being exactly what it is, there is NO WAY I could raise another little person. And by no way, I do mean no way. As I said somewhere else, I'm far more a pragmatist than a moralist.

It does peak my curiosity to see how consistant people are in their stands though. Especially when they want to enforce their stands on other people.

 

[Alceste]

Sometimes real life is more twisted and ridiculous than hypothetical moral scenarios. And certainly more painful.

Yup - if I'm ever going to be able to adopt kids, I'll have to overcome my husband's aversion to raising mentally ill kids. Can't fool him into thinking it will be a picnic, since his mother is a psychoanalyst.

 

[NIX]

http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/games-pics-jokes-stories/137559-moraly-woorse-y.html

U asked

My hypothetical may be typically loose ended, however it is attempting to ask- or raise- a serious question. (whether you see it as a moral one or not)

 

[Me Myself]

My hypothetical may be typically loose ended, however it is attempting to ask- or raise- a serious question. (whether you see it as a moral one or not)

I honestly thought it was only meant to parody mine

What you thought of my response then?

 

[NIX]

I honestly thought it was only meant to parody mine

What you thought of my response then?

My other thread was a parody of sorts, though with a point. (even if I am the only one who sees it)

Not this one though. This thread is not a parody of anything. Perhaps you are confusing the two threads.

 

[jarofthoughts]

Nah. There's not really any trap here.

Aww...
I'm almost disappointed.
I was sure you were going to extrapolate the moral consequences of my choice to other situations to show inconsistency, which, I'll grant, wouldn't be completely unfair.
Which is why I threw in that part about human psychology, as that IS indeed vital for the human decision-making process and value systems.

I'm pragmatic enough to know that my life being exactly what it is, there is NO WAY I could raise another little person. And by no way, I do mean no way. As I said somewhere else, I'm far more a pragmatist than a moralist.

Many people think that up until the moment arrises.
I'm not calling you out on this, but a lot of people find they can do many things they thought impossible if the circumstances are right.

It does peak my curiosity to see how consistant people are in their stands though. Especially when they want to enforce their stands on other people.

I do my best to be consistent in general.