You Better Believe Kamala Harris Is a “Real” American

[Watchmen]

It's by implication rather than by direct statement. Specifically from the Wall Street Journal as the headline indicates:

Campaign Lays Bare Debate Over What It Means to Be a ‘Real American’​

The two party conventions also offered a more direct engagement in the battle to define American identity. When Hulk Hogan, the retired WrestleMania star, took the stage shortly before Trump accepted the GOP nomination, he wore a shirt that said “Real American.” He then explained what the term meant to him.​

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“I found out I was in a room full of real Americans,” he said, referring to the convention hall and the loyalty of GOP delegates to Trump. “When Donald J. Trump becomes the president of the United States, all the real Americans are going to be nicknamed Trumpites, because all the Trumpites are going to be running wild for four years,” he said.​

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Who Is A “Real” American?​

- has a different perspective

So the “real American” implications took place at the RNC which was BEFORE Biden dropped out and Harris became the candidate. In other words, even the WSJ is making stuff up for clicks.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Historically, it has been used to describe someone who embodies values often associated with American identity, such as patriotism, hard work, freedom, and a commitment to democracy.

I told ya it's a Rick Derringer song.

 

[The Hammer]

Oh come on now, Trump is a much bigger character than Kamala is.

His character is yuuge!

 

[The Hammer]

As a Me'tis, I fully agree with you.

Holy **** your name makes sense now.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Good point, women in every state should have the right to have a pregnancy terminated and not have it banned because some believe it's immoral. Thanks for supporting freedom.

It's quite a fun freedom to have. Isn't it?

I think they should have greeting cards for this special occasion. Congratulations on your abortion.

Cake, tea , and coffee at the party.

 

[esmith]

How? Give us some examples.

Well let start with what is going on now.
Are not some of the members on this forum posting their objections to former President Trump being the next president?
Are not some of the members on this forum posting their objections to Israel actions?
Anytime anyone says or writes something aboout events they are attempting to get people to agree to their ideas about whatever they are writing or speaking about.

 

[Father Heathen]

Well let start with what is going on now.
Are not some of the members on this forum posting their objections to former President Trump being the next president?
Are not some of the members on this forum posting their objections to Israel actions?
Anytime anyone says or writes something aboout events they are attempting to get people to agree to their ideas about whatever they are writing or speaking about.

How are forum posts imposing? How does sharing an opinion or point of view impose anything?

 

[Kenny]

I'm excerpting the article to make a point about who is a "real American". We are ALL decedents of immigrants even the Native Americans originally came from elsewhere. So to attack her or any citizen who believes in America as not being a "real American" is to attack me and my friends and neighbors. My neighbor on one side is Chinese and from India on the other side. There's a Hispanic family up the street, a cop living at the end of the cul-de-sac, and others including white Christians. I know blacks, a man from Iran and many more We are all "real" Americans.

I’m not sure how you get from point a to point b. Yes, we are all immigrants… but how does one saying that Kamala is not a true American mean that you aren’t a true American?

 

[Kenny]

In a broader sense, a "real American" could be anyone who identifies with and contributes to the diverse fabric of American society, regardless of their background, beliefs, or origin. It's a concept that reflects the complex and multifaceted nature of American identity.

I disagree… if a person’s belief has the basis on communism, thus anti-Constitution. that person is not a true American - in its context

 

[Kenny]

One could say that they way Kamala came to be the nominee was “un-American” - it violated the process for Democratic-Republic nomination. Thus she is the poster-child for being un-American IMV

 

[metis]

One could say that they way Kamala came to be the nominee was “un-American” - it violated the process for Democratic-Republic nomination. Thus she is the poster-child for being un-American IMV

Not really as using delegates has been done for a long time now as changes can happen in the middle or even near the end of a campaign, and this in large part why parties use it. For example, if Trump had been killed, wouldn't the Republicans select another candidate? Vance was selected as a possible VP, not a P.

And yes, I'm aware of the nonsense put out by Fox, Newsmax, and some other right-wing sources, which is why I have always encouraged all of us to seek out various sources, including some we may detest. I taught my poli sci students to do much the same. I also encouraged them to understand that the news is much more apt to cover the unusual than the usual.

 

[Pogo]

I disagree… if a person’s belief has the basis on communism, thus anti-Constitution. that person is not a true American - in its context

The only one who has a desire to disregard the constitution is Donald Trump who has already said he would suspend it and also just admitted to interfering with the 2020 election.

 

[Pogo]

One could say that they way Kamala came to be the nominee was “un-American” - it violated the process for Democratic-Republic nomination. Thus she is the poster-child for being un-American IMV

Only apparently to those Republicans who don't like the actual Party nominating process not because it is different than the Republican one, but because they don't like the outcome. Nothing illegal or underhanded was done. Biden withdrew, the delegates met and voted for the nominees at the convention. (actually a little earlier to keep it legal for a few states that were being obstreperous). Un-American is cozying up to dictators like Putin and Kim. Un-American is interfering with an election by trying to bypass the electoral process with fake slates of electors and expecting Pence to disregard the legitimate ones in favor of the fakes.

 

[Pogo]

Not really as using delegates has been done for a long time now as changes can happen in the middle or even near the end of a campaign, and this in large part why parties use it. For example, if Trump had been killed, wouldn't the Republicans select another candidate? Vance was selected as a possible VP, not a P.

And yes, I'm aware of the nonsense put out by Fox, Newsmax, and some other right-wing sources, which is why I have always encouraged all of us to seek out various sources, including some we may detest. I taught my poli sci students to do much the same. I also encouraged them to understand that the news is much more apt to cover the unusual than the usual.

Not to mention that the convention system is there specifically in the case that there is not necessarily a consensus opinion on the nominee and it exists to achieve one. Basic misunderstanding of the process and sour grapes.

 

[Kenny]

Not really as using delegates has been done for a long time now as changes can happen in the middle or even near the end of a campaign, and this in large part why parties use it. For example, if Trump had been killed, wouldn't the Republicans select another candidate? Vance was selected as a possible VP, not a P.

And yes, I'm aware of the nonsense put out by Fox, Newsmax, and some other right-wing sources, which is why I have always encouraged all of us to seek out various sources, including some we may detest. I taught my poli sci students to do much the same. I also encouraged them to understand that the news is much more apt to cover the unusual than the usual.

At this point in the game, though, after people have already elected the one they want to run… was it really democratically done? Was there backroom shoving and pushing after he said he wasn’t quitting? Did those who also ran and had more votes actually have a chance?

Of course, we won’t ever know the backroom dealings but we can definitely say it was “out of the norm election”.

 

[Kenny]

The only one who has a desire to disregard the constitution is Donald Trump who has already said he would suspend it and also just admitted to interfering with the 2020 election.

???

I’m looking more at actions rather than words. “Lock her up” - may have had a lot of enthusiasm for “political slogans” - but there was no “locking her up”. I think what you heard was the media spin.

 

[Kenny]

Only apparently to those Republicans who don't like the actual Party nominating process not because it is different than the Republican one, but because they don't like the outcome. Nothing illegal or underhanded was done. Biden withdrew, the delegates met and voted for the nominees at the convention. (actually a little earlier to keep it legal for a few states that were being obstreperous). Un-American is cozying up to dictators like Putin and Kim. Un-American is interfering with an election by trying to bypass the electoral process with fake slates of electors and expecting Pence to disregard the legitimate ones in favor of the fakes.

Biden was forced out… not withdrawn.

 

[Pogo]

???

I’m looking more at actions rather than words. “Lock her up” - may have had a lot of enthusiasm for “political slogans” - but there was no “locking her up”. I think what you heard was the media spin.

Fake Electors, Calls to the Governor of Georgia etc. These weren't slogans, they were unsuccessful actions made unsuccessful by the strength of democracy which is in danger from people who fail to recognize it.

 

[Pogo]

Biden was forced out… not withdrawn.

By whom, I didn't see any mob at the White House like there was on Jan. 6, there was debate and conversation as there is in a free society and ultimately Biden decided to do what he felt best for the country. This is the way it is supposed to work and Biden's approval ratings have gone up since his decision.
This is just sour grapes from you and those who wish to impose their ideas on the world rather than live in a cooperative society. Sad really.

 

[Kenny]

Fake Electors, Calls to the Governor of Georgia etc. These weren't slogans, they were unsuccessful actions made unsuccessful by the strength of democracy which is in danger from people who fail to recognize it.

Wanting to eradicate electoral voting process, stacking the Supreme Court, wanting to change the Senate voting methods to a plus one majority when Dems are in power is the tyrannical effort to undermine the Constitution.

There is the real danger.

the Republicans helped stop the violation of the process… Dems don’t care about the process. Remember the “hanging chads” fiasco? The Russian gate lies? The twisting of the truth on Biden’s computer and the manipulation by the Federal agencies to hide the truth?

There is the real danger.