You Better Believe Kamala Harris Is a “Real” American

[F1fan]

No… it was you who wanted to insert Marxist ideas by eliminating the electoral process (because you don’t like it)

Lol. So all other elections in the USA are Marxist because they are popular vote?

Come on, at least try to make sense.

 

[Pogo]

Marxism in the making. Un-American imo

Not what you think it is or anything that anybody on the national stage is advocating.

Marxism - Wikipedia

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you are only demonstrating your provincial ignorance.

 

[Pogo]

The rules are “You go through the primaries and you are selected”. After that it is draconian politics.

Source please? this ought to be good.

 

[sun rise]

I’m not sure how you get from point a to point b. Yes, we are all immigrants… but how does one saying that Kamala is not a true American mean that you aren’t a true American?

Because our experiences as children of immigrants who became citizens is the same. Trying to say she can't run for President because she's not really a citizen, a "real American" says the same thing about me and all 2nd generation Americans.

It's totally expected but still rankles. But I know what's really at stake here between those who want to turn America into a hell hole and those who want America to progress. The number of conservatives who have endorsed Harris speaks to this. The future of America and the world are at stake. The election causes me to reflect on the existential choice of direction that we're choosing and to reflect on these lyrics.

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Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord
He is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored
He hath loosed the fateful lightning of His terrible swift sword
His truth is marching on.​

Wrath and lies. The message and choice are clear.

 

[sun rise]

If you want to ignore what everyone saw and heard… can’t stop you. Too many unanswered questions on Jan 6th as the Dems in power did absolutely nothing to prevent it and with the unearthing of CIA and FBI manipulations on other matters, one can only wonder if it went beyond that which the media fed us.

Seriously? TRUMP was in power and did nothing. Sadly I think you have fallen for gaslighting.

 

[sun rise]

We have had Biden for 4 years… and people are still under the Trump Syndrome effect. I am more interested in what is happening now as Kamala muscled her way into the election without due process. Dean Phillips was next in line in the Primaries, much more than Kamala, why wasn’t he allowed in the mix?

Because of undemocratic process. IMV

I'm sad because from my perspective you've chosen mammon

No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

 

[Kenny]

Lol. So all other elections in the USA are Marxist because they are popular vote?

Come on, at least try to make sense.

You make no sense at all. This is a Republic. You are advocating majority rules.

 

[Kenny]

Because our experiences as children of immigrants who became citizens is the same. Trying to say she can't run for President because she's not really a citizen, a "real American" says the same thing about me and all 2nd generation Americans.

OK… I now understand what you are trying to say. I don’t think that is what they mean, generally speaking, but that is my understanding and I could be wrong

 

[Kenny]

I'm sad because from my perspective you've chosen mammon

No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

My point has nothing to do with mammon… not sure how you applied that

 

[Pogo]

You make no sense at all. This is a Republic. You are advocating majority rules.

Kenny, you apparently missed a lot in whatever school you went to which may account for your lack of knowledge about our governing system. Start here and come back when the words are too big.

Democratic republic - Wikipedia

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[F1fan]

You make no sense at all.

Of course I don't make ense to you. I follow facts and use reason, and rely on reputable media sources.

This is a Republic. You are advocating majority rules.

Shocking isn't it? That our 50 governors are elected via majority rules. And that referendums are decided by the most votes. That both state and federal senators and representatives win because they get the most votes. Only the presidential election uses the archaic and obsolete electoral college. The votes of many citizens don't matter, and that is undemocratic.

You called majority rule Marxist. And you didn't bother to explain how that is. So I take it you made a false statement about that, yes? Did you know it was false, or did you trust some right wing disinformation? How could you be so wrong about that simple thing?

 

[metis]

At this point in the game, though, after people have already elected the one they want to run… was it really democratically done? Was there backroom shoving and pushing after he said he wasn’t quitting? Did those who also ran and had more votes actually have a chance?

Of course, we won’t ever know the backroom dealings but we can definitely say it was “out of the norm election”.

This not a normal situation whereas a candidate who is president pulled out just before the convention.

Again, this is why having delegates is soooooooooooo very important with our process, and I'd rather have this than to nominate a twice impeached felon who tried to overturn the election on 1-6. Thank God so many Republicans and former Republicans have the basic set of morals to know that they must not endorse nor vote for Trump.

 

[metis]

???

I’m looking more at actions rather than words. “Lock her up” - may have had a lot of enthusiasm for “political slogans” - but there was no “locking her up”. I think what you heard was the media spin.

It was just announced that the testimony of those under subpoena, including Pence's, is going to be released soon. Stay tuned.

 

[metis]

Too many unanswered questions on Jan 6th as the Dems in power did absolutely nothing to prevent it and with the unearthing of CIA and FBI manipulations on other matters, one can only wonder if it went beyond that which the media fed us.

To put it bluntly, the about is BS. As long as you get your "news" from Fox and Newsmax and other party-related sites, you will be led by the nose.

Pelosi tried to get Pence to bring in the NG, but the problem was that Trump was there and he had the priority to make that call, which he finally did but almost 4 hours after it began. Even his daughter Ivanka couldn't talk him into calling earlier. I watched it live for that time btw.

 

[metis]

We have had Biden for 4 years… and people are still under the Trump Syndrome effect. I am more interested in what is happening now as Kamala muscled her way into the election without due process.

That was a due process!!!

 

[Pogo]

That was a due process!!!

Well not exactly, it was a private function working according to its own internal rules and so the constitutional protections for citizens in their interaction with the government which is what the due process clause is about were never in question. The private organization obeyed its own rules so that is that.
The bigger question is how is it that there is such a large segment of this country that is so ignorant of the laws governing our interaction that they even think to believe that whatever sour grapes they are eating are amenable to this interpretation of something they should have understood in high school if not junior high.

 

[metis]

Well not exactly, it was a private function working according to its own internal rules and so the constitutional protections for citizens in their interaction with the government which is what the due process clause is about were never in question. The private organization obeyed its own rules so that is that.

But it still was a "due process" within that "function", and each party has their own "function" rules.

The bigger question is how is it that there is such a large segment of this country that is so ignorant of the laws governing our interaction that they even think to believe that whatever sour grapes they are eating are amenable to this interpretation of something they should have understood in high school if not junior high.

Exactly! And the thing we keep running across with some people is that they seemingly are just regurgitating what they hear and/or read from the likes of Fox, Newsmax, etc. I do watch them periodically so as to try and understand where they're coming from and why. In the South, 2/3 of the people there watch and/or read their national news from those two networks according to a study I saw a few years ago. In the North, it's about 1/3.

 

[sun rise]

My point has nothing to do with mammon… not sure how you applied that

Catching up. I was not using "mammon" literally but responding to your worldly post:

We have had Biden for 4 years… and people are still under the Trump Syndrome effect. I am more interested in what is happening now as Kamala muscled her way into the election without due process. Dean Phillips was next in line in the Primaries, much more than Kamala, why wasn’t he allowed in the mix?

Because of undemocratic process. IMV

TDS is the slur that MAGA uses for people who see Trump for what he is. To me MAGA is subject to TDS because they ignore his mental issues, his care only for himself where he'll say anything to get votes because of his evident narcissism and so forth.

As for the process, Biden withdrawing meant that the typical process did not apply. And "Dean Phillips"? The people have in fact voted with the results of polls and the unprecedented level of campaign contributions. SCOTUS has decided that money is speech Harris campaign more than doubles Trump's August campaign donations

And from his actions when he was POTUS and what his friends (2025) plan to do along with what he's said, he's the polar opposite of what the Bible says about how people are to be treated.

To me, this statement from Evangelicals for Harris is clear and proceeds from and reflects who they are as Christians:

No political party or leader can ever hold our full devotion. That belongs to Jesus alone. As we approach this election, our hearts are drawn to a path that reflects His teachings. We're choosing the peace that comes from joy, the strength found in loving our neighbors, and the grace in showing compassion. This isn't just a vote; it's a reflection of our faith.​

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In this election, the choice is clear: Kamala Harris.​

 

[Kenny]

'Don't Recognize it': Former California Democratic Leader Switches to GOP

Gloria Romero, a former Democratic majority leader in the state Senate, announced that she has switched her party affiliation to the GOP and will vote for Donald Trump.

timesofsandiego.com

And the hole in the Democratic party continues to leak. It has gone so far left that those who once understood its purpose “for the people”, now realize that it no longer does.

 

[Kenny]

Kamala apparently is not bringing the party together. IMV

Alan Dershowitz announces he is leaving Democratic Party

Dershowitz, who has been a prominent Democrat for decades but has been critical of the party recently, said he was "disgusted" at the Democratic convention, and cited growing dissatisfaction with the party as the reason for the change.

justthenews.com

The leak continues