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You know, I think I'm Jewish

ForeverFaithful

Son Worshiper
It's funny, I used to stay away from Judaism because I thought it was completely different from Christianity, but now I struggle to differences the two. Far more interesting to talk to my Jewish friend about God and Religion then my lukewarm Christian friends. I struggle to abandon any thou shalt/shalt not in the Old Testament and would love to be an Hasidic Messianic Jew. I love Israel and all of the Old Testament stories

Shalom!
 

Bob Dixon

>implying
Of course!
It's funny... Christianity has renounced a lot of its Jewishness, but (in theory) it should be just a sect of Judaism. After all, the whole "Messiah" thing is an entirely Jewish concept.
 

Rakhel

Well-Known Member
you can't be hasidic and messianic at the same time.

well...you could pretend to be both but the hasidic community would laugh in your face and ring your door bell at 3 o'clock in the morning and beat you when you walk in the shul and attempt to set your house on fire and.....

If you want to be messianic, the last group you ever want to attempt to join are the hasidim.


Just sayin'
 

Shermana

Heretic
It's funny, I used to stay away from Judaism because I thought it was completely different from Christianity, but now I struggle to differences the two. Far more interesting to talk to my Jewish friend about God and Religion then my lukewarm Christian friends. I struggle to abandon any thou shalt/shalt not in the Old Testament and would love to be an Hasidic Messianic Jew. I love Israel and all of the Old Testament stories

Shalom!

You have my respects. The lawless are indeed "Lukewarm", and 1 John says that anyone who claims to know Christ but refuses to obey the commandments is a "Liar".

A "Liar".

May your conversion to Messianic Judaism be soon and most rewarding.

And if there's one thing the Hasids have right, it's reincarnation, most Christians don't realize this concept is basically what "Ressurection" is all about.
 

Antibush5

Active Member
you can't be hasidic and messianic at the same time.

well...you could pretend to be both but the hasidic community would laugh in your face and ring your door bell at 3 o'clock in the morning and beat you when you walk in the shul and attempt to set your house on fire and.....

If you want to be messianic, the last group you ever want to attempt to join are the hasidim.


Just sayin'
Oh those crazy hasids. What will they do next?
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ForeverFaithful

Son Worshiper
You have my respects. The lawless are indeed "Lukewarm", and 1 John says that anyone who claims to know Christ but refuses to obey the commandments is a "Liar".

A "Liar".

May your conversion to Messianic Judaism be soon and most rewarding.

And if there's one thing the Hasids have right, it's reincarnation, most Christians don't realize this concept is basically what "Ressurection" is all about.

What perchance my your opinion be on the Seventh-Day Adventists
 

Shermana

Heretic
What perchance my your opinion be on the Seventh-Day Adventists

I think they are one of the closest to the truth, but not quite, but they are far less likely to be called "Liars" accordnig to 1 John, they actually understand the concept of obedience to the commandments, though I'm not sure if they are fully obedient or pick and choosy about it. Sabbath obedience is immensely important though (Those against it might as well abandon the rest of the 10 commandments), and that scores them many points.

The fact that they're Trinitarian loses them a few points (and gains the JWs a few points, though the JWs are antinomian/lawless), but there are non-Trinitarian 7th day offshoots which are among the closest Churches to the truth.

Altogether, I give the 7th day Adventists a semi-approval due to their potential to be fully lawful disciples. They are one of the only groups left that understands what Jesus meant by "fulfilling" the Law, but to what degree they practice it, I'm not sure. The safest bet is to go Messianic Jewish but again I'd give a half-stamp of approval for joining the 7th days.
 

Pegg

Jehovah our God is One
And if there's one thing the Hasids have right, it's reincarnation, most Christians don't realize this concept is basically what "Ressurection" is all about.

to 'reincarnate' means to be reborn into another form, but resurrection means to be brought back into the same person

the concepts are entirely different.
 

Bob Dixon

>implying
to 'reincarnate' means to be reborn into another form, but resurrection means to be brought back into the same person

the concepts are entirely different.

Depending on who you ask, reincarnating could also mean coming back as the same person. Yeah, you won't have all the memories and stuff, but the soul (the most essential aspect of the human) is the same. Look at John the Baptist (i.e. the Prophet Elijah) for an excellent case of reincarnation. Was he the same person? No; John denied being Elijah. But Jesus knew the truth, which was that they had the same soul and that they were, in fact, the same person, in a way.
 

Zardoz

Wonderful Wizard
Premium Member
Everybody please remember this is a Christian DIR, and that we have a Messianic DIR for in-depth discussions on that topic.
 

Lucian

Theologian
It's funny, I used to stay away from Judaism because I thought it was completely different from Christianity, but now I struggle to differences the two. Far more interesting to talk to my Jewish friend about God and Religion then my lukewarm Christian friends. I struggle to abandon any thou shalt/shalt not in the Old Testament and would love to be an Hasidic Messianic Jew. I love Israel and all of the Old Testament stories

Shalom!

There's nothing stopping you from following the Old Testament commandments even while not being Jewish, though not everything can be followed.

I'm not Jewish myself and would certainly never want to be Jewish. I find Jesus' teachings and the Noahide commandments/Ten commandments to be good.
 

Reverend Rick

Frubal Whore
Premium Member
I'm questioning my Christian faith. My issues are with pauline doctrines, but I do not have issues with anything Jesus said.

I don't remember Jesus saying not to pray to God.

If the Father, Son, and the Holly Ghost are the same God, why would Jesus demand that we not pray to the Father? What difference would that make?

What if Paul has lead us astray?

In my life time, I may become Jewish or Muslim.
 

Bob Dixon

>implying
I'm questioning my Christian faith. My issues are with pauline doctrines, but I do not have issues with anything Jesus said.

I don't remember Jesus saying not to pray to God.

If the Father, Son, and the Holly Ghost are the same God, why would Jesus demand that we not pray to the Father? What difference would that make?

What if Paul has lead us astray?

In my life time, I may become Jewish or Muslim.

Messianic Judaism.
 

Reverend Rick

Frubal Whore
Premium Member
Are you ready to give up bacon?
And ham, biscuits and gravy, shell fish......

I will have to look over my shoulder around skin heads and deal with my Bible belt self righteous fellow citizens in my town.......

I have thought about all this.

I have thought about my love of the second amendment and being a Muslim too, I'm sure that would raise some eyebrows.
 

ForeverFaithful

Son Worshiper
And ham, biscuits and gravy, shell fish......

I will have to look over my shoulder around skin heads and deal with my Bible belt self righteous fellow citizens in my town.......

I have thought about all this.

I have thought about my love of the second amendment and being a Muslim too, I'm sure that would raise some eyebrows.
I won't reject the divinity of Christ, too important to me

I really love Judaism! Its so beautiful, I've also been going to a Seventh Day Adventist church and realized how logical their doctrines are
 

SCHIZO

Active Member
It's funny, I used to stay away from Judaism because I thought it was completely different from Christianity, but now I struggle to differences the two. Far more interesting to talk to my Jewish friend about God and Religion then my lukewarm Christian friends. I struggle to abandon any thou shalt/shalt not in the Old Testament and would love to be an Hasidic Messianic Jew. I love Israel and all of the Old Testament stories

Shalom!

Why not just incorporate some Jewish aspects into your Christian faith? There are Christians that incorporate Jewish tradition within their faith. You could be observant and ritualistic with Jewish holidays for instance. You could start wearing a star of David around your neck. I agree, you should return to Jewish roots to get a sense of your faith.
 

SageTree

Spiritual Friend
Premium Member
I'm questioning my Christian faith. My issues are with pauline doctrines, but I do not have issues with anything Jesus said.

I don't remember Jesus saying not to pray to God.

If the Father, Son, and the Holly Ghost are the same God, why would Jesus demand that we not pray to the Father? What difference would that make?

What if Paul has lead us astray?

In my life time, I may become Jewish or Muslim.


I really feel your post man.

I attend Anglican Worship because it's close to my home and I was raise in a Christian family, but I often feel as though I would like to a place that is closer to how I'd say it, a place where don't have to only dwell on my intention, that is, a place where I felt it was more acceptable to clearly and plainly talk in the language of my relation to God when there is sharing officially and casually.

I wish Mysticism/Esoteric/Contemplative and Unitarianism in Christianity was more pervasive, and I wish there was more mainstream emphasis ,or at less slanted or goal oriented look, at the Hebrew Scriptures as Hebrew Scripture.

I went Dharmic to find out more about meditation and in time I believed that there was similarities in language, means, philosophy... perennial ideas in the Abrahamic Mystical branches...

I sort of felt duped because I honestly believe if I knew more about these I wouldn't have ever looked to other places for practices in the Inward realms of Knowledge.

The 'East/West' dichotomy over the years has eased and I feel like I am focused on what is important and not of how it's said necessarily.

But in terms of community I wish I was able to find something a little more heady.

Sufism's expounding have deeply touched my sense of the 'Abrahamic God' and how we can relate to God and Know how to Love deeply.

:namaste
SageTree
 
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