Young Australian Jihadist dies in suicide attack

[Tiapan]

When I watch videos such as this one I can see why disenfranchised naive young people can be conned into dying for ISIL, this Wahabbi high priest tells the audience that the West is the cause of all evil, that all the foretold signs of the coming "End of Days" are here and that it is fantastic to go kill and fight for you "ideology".
Told in the guise of nice peaceful islamic harmony which superficially seems logical, if you accept the axioms it is based on, but on careful analysis what he says is actually ambiguious nonsense, twisting the Quran and reality, attempting to make the prophesy self fulfilling and make war against the west legitimate.

The result appears to be as follows

Islamic State: Australian teen Jake reported in suicide attack

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/575716128233811969

Sad, but at least Jakes defective gene set self-destructed before it could breed.

 

[Nietzsche]

If no one else died, I'd call this a net-win for the species.

 

[gsa]

And the result is likely to be the same for any zealous convert to Islamist radicalism who cannot speak Arabic and decides to enlist in the ISIS death cult or any similar entity. They’re of almost no use to their co-conspirators except as suicide attackers and martyrs for propaganda purposes.

 

[Nietzsche]

And the result is likely to be the same for any zealous convert to Islamist radicalism who cannot speak Arabic and decides to enlist in the ISIS death cult or any similar entity. They’re of almost no use to their co-conspirators except as suicide attackers and martyrs for propaganda purposes.

I feel this is almost like having a Black Klansman.

 

[Madhuri]

If no one else died, I'd call this a net-win for the species.

I don't know, its pretty sad. The kid was a victim of bullying at school and became suicidal after his mother died, which is when he converted to Islam. He was an impressionable kid who may not have had any emotional support when he desperately needed it. I wouldn't call that a win. I'd call is a fail on our society.

 

[Jainarayan]

If no one else died, I'd call this a net-win for the species.

For sure...

1. I have no pity or sympathy for people like that. My pity and sympathy is rationed and must be used for those who really need it.
2. They are homicide attacks, not suicide attacks. If there is a hell I hope it has a special place for them.

.

 

[Jainarayan]

I don't know, its pretty sad. The kid was a victim of bullying at school and became suicidal after his mother died, which is when he converted to Islam. He was an impressionable kid who may not have had any emotional support when he desperately needed it. I wouldn't call that a win. I'd call is a fail on our society.

It's too easy to point fingers at society and what happened as a child. There are millions of people who've endured worse in their lives but they managed to pull themselves up by their bootstraps. Too many people don't want to take responsibility.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I feel this is almost like having a Black Klansman.

And a grand Dragon no less. As well as blind.

White Is Right:

 

[gsa]

I don't know, its pretty sad. The kid was a victim of bullying at school and became suicidal after his mother died, which is when he converted to Islam. He was an impressionable kid who may not have had any emotional support when he desperately needed it. I wouldn't call that a win. I'd call is a fail on our society.

Plenty of people go through those things, even conversion to Islam, without becoming jihadists and killing people.

 

[Madhuri]

Of course many people go through terrible things but manage to cope in a better way. And I would never excuse his behaviour. But it's also easy for us to forget that there are complex factors behind why individuals behave in a certain way. This guy is -still- a teenager, not a grown, mature man. He probably found hope and comfort from some radical people where he could not find it anywhere else. It's so easy to get wrapped up in crazy things, and young, emotionally scarred people are even more vulnerable. I think that society should address the reasons behind why people join such groups (alienation being a big one) instead of jumping to the conclusion that the individuals are just inherently crazy or bad people.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Of course many people go through terrible things but manage to cope in a better way. And I would never excuse his behaviour. But it's also easy for us to forget that there are complex factors behind why individuals behave in a certain way. This guy is -still- a teenager, not a grown, mature man. He probably found hope and comfort from some radical people where he could not find it anywhere else. It's so easy to get wrapped up in crazy things, and young, emotionally scarred people are even more vulnerable. I think that society should address the reasons behind why people join such groups (alienation being a big one) instead of jumping to the conclusion that the individuals are just inherently crazy or bad people.

Hmmm...I agree, but my sympathy for him (or lack thereof) doesnt really impact on my desire to understand him.

I want to understand him, and others like him, to prevent this happening. But I have no tolerance or sympathy for the sort of activities he involved himself in, not in how he ended his life.

 

[psychoslice]

I'm just glad he's out of my country, dead or alive.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

It's too easy to point fingers at society and what happened as a child. There are millions of people who've endured worse in their lives but they managed to pull themselves up by their bootstraps. Too many people don't want to take responsibility.

When you have been bullied, when you have no support system, you tend to be attracted to anyone or any group that will take you in and make you feel even a little bit welcomed and appreciated. It has nothing to do with taking responsibility, but the very human and very real sense of wanting to belong, wanting to have support, and wanting to have people around you who make you feel appreciated and valued. People like that kid, because of the way society treats them, often become primary targets for being manipulated and used by people who can sense they are down and know how to prey upon the emotions of people who have no one else.

 

[Jainarayan]

When you have been bullied, when you have no support system, you tend to be attracted to anyone or any group that will take you in and make you feel even a little bit welcomed and appreciated..

I was bullied as a kid too. I was bullied in grade school, badly beaten up because I ratted a bigger kid out for stealing books I bought from the school book club. I was terrorized by him for weeks. The school did NOTHING until other mothers in the neighborhood marched on the school and the do-nothing principal. Even after that I was terrified of going to school or going out of my house. Though he was expelled from school, he lived in the neighborhood. I was bullied in high school and taunted for being a sissy and a ***. The school did NOTHING, with the vice principal saying that there was nothing he could do. I had to ride the school bus every day and endure these taunts. I have not joined any far left or far right wing jihadist or any other terrorist group. Except for those mothers fearful for their own children I had no support structure either. I was told to fight my own battles. I dealt with it, it took me a long time to get over it until I came into my own as a junior and senior in h.s., but I got over it. I am not the only one who's ever been in those positions. So please do not tell me he was a victim. We make our choices.