Young women leaving religion more than young men.

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Most of these women give multiple reasons. It appears to be what might be called the perfect storm. Relevant issues are: unequal treatment of men and women, LGBT exclusion, personal trauma, scandals, simply losing faith, other things in life taking priority, rigid gender roles, teachings on sexuality, too political, and hypocrisy of the leadership.

First, I don't know; I'm simply guessing.

Second, the Abrahamic churches have all tended to emphasize intolerance of homosexuality let alone present day gender roles, and stress the centrality of marriage, roles for the male and roles for the female in marriage, the words of God putting males in charge. There are exceptions to all of these, of course, but they're not the mainstream by any means.

I'm reminded of the old joke about marriage ─ marriage is an institution, but who wants to live in an institution?

Go, gals ─ and boys ─ and find your way as you honestly wish.

 

[GoodAttention]

Yes, the general exodus from organized religion is affecting us Jews too. According to at least one of the articles I read on the woman thing, it is happening in all religions. Since Judaism is a religion, I would deduce that the author was including Judaism in that.

Many of the things listed for reasons are certainly true of synagogues as well. We have our scandals. Trauma sometimes happens. Our rabbis are sometimes hypocrites. You get the idea.

In other cases, some of those reasons only apply to certain groups within Judaism. Certainly not all, but some synagogues definitely do treat women unequally from men including barring women from being rabbis, do have sexual rules that young people don't like, do teach that LGBT is a sin, you get the picture.

My understanding is there is no “commandment” or requirement for Jewish women to have children, as there is for men?

 

[IndigoChild5559]

My understanding is there is no “commandment” or requirement for Jewish women to have children, as there is for men?

In Orthodox Judaism, the commandment to be fruitful and multiply is understood to apply to men, but not women. Why? I'm so far from being a Rabbi that it's not funny, and really if you truly want to delve into this, we have two excellent Rabbis here in our own forum. The only thing I can tell you is something I remember my Rabbi telling me long ago, that the reason certain commandments are obligations for men and not women is because women are "on a higher spiritual plane" and will naturally do what is right without obligation, while men must be ordered to do these things.

In Conservative Judaism the commandment to be fruitful and multiply is seen as a shared value for both men and women. But in my experience, although it is viewed as a mitzvah, it really isn't seen as a requirement.

I'm not really sure how it is viewed in Reform Judaism, but I can tell you that in general the Reform see the commandments more as a source of inspiration and starting points for discussion, than as obligatory rules. They would likely discuss the ethical points both for and against having children, and leave room for different couples to reach different decisions. I wish I could give you something more definitive.

Again, I feel a little out of my league, and I truly hope I haven't steered you wrong. You might try RabbiO or rosends.

 

[Muffled]

Well, at least they guaranteed them an eternity of bliss without risk. What greater gift could a mother give to her child? A risk free eternity in heaven, with Jesus and stuff. What could outperform that?

I call that a loving mother. Sacrificing herself for the eternal good of her child.
Why the animosity? I think it is touching, if you believe in standard salvation theory.

Ciao

- viole

I do not believe children automatically go to Heaven. I believe most are reincarnated. There is a trauma involved in being rejected by ones own mother and the mother has lost her soul because she has become a murderer.

 

[viole]

I do not believe children automatically go to Heaven. I believe most are reincarnated. There is a trauma involved in being rejected by ones own mother and the mother has lost her soul because she has become a murderer.

Is reincarnation a Christian tenet?

any Scriptural evidence? Or you are just making that up?

Ciao

- viole

 

[Fool]

I originally thought to put this post in the Social World section, but there was no subforum for women's issues. I also will get more traffic here and I assume there will be real debate as to why this is happening.

I've come across a whole slew of articles that discuss a significant change in Gen Z. In previous generations, women have alway been more religious than men. Go into any church, and more women than men are sitting in the pews, running the office, active in its ministries. Gen Z has turned that on its head. Young people as a whole are leaving religion and becoming "nones," but surprisingly, a significantly larger percent of women are leaving than men. This is true in all religions.

There doesn't seem to be just one reasons. Most of these women give multiple reasons. It appears to be what might be called the perfect storm. Relevant issues are: unequal treatment of men and women, LGBT exclusion, personal trauma, scandals, simply losing faith, other things in life taking priority, rigid gender roles, teachings on sexuality, too political, and hypocrisy of the leadership.

Where are they going? They appear to be becoming politically active.

The reverse trend is seen in young men. Traditionally, men have been more active in politics than women, but they are leaving politics.

Comments?

Americans are becoming less religious. None more than this group

Americans are becoming less religious. None more than this group

Studies show young women now outpacing young men in leaving the church. Experts blame frustration over gender roles and concerns over social issues.

www.usatoday.com

Young Woman are Fleeing Organized Religion. This Was Predictable.

Opinion | Young Women Are Fleeing Organized Religion. This Was Predictable.

They’re increasingly identifying as feminist at the same time that some denominations are drawing conservative lines in the sand.

www.nytimes.com

Young Women Are Leaving Church in Unprecedented Numbers

Young Women Are Leaving Church in Unprecedented Numbers - The Survey Center on American Life

The gender divide in religiosity has flipped

www.americansurveycenter.org

The Gender Gap in Religion

The Gender Gap in Religion

What does it mean that many more young women than young men are leaving American churches?

www.theamericanconservative.com

because the feminine, anima, shakti, shekinah is rising. better get on board or get the hell out of the way. neither to the left or the right, but straight and narrow is the strait

woe to you religious zealots

 

[Muffled]

Is reincarnation a Christian tenet?

any Scriptural evidence? Or you are just making that up?

Ciao

- viole

I believe it isn't recognized as such because it is too closely associated with Hinduism. However the Bible does support the concept.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Is reincarnation a Christian tenet?

A tenet? No. But you will find the occasional Christian who still believes in it.

any Scriptural evidence? Or you are just making that up?

Christians who believe in reincarnation point out Jesus' statement that John the Baptist is Elijah.

 

[firedragon]

I originally thought to put this post in the Social World section, but there was no subforum for women's issues. I also will get more traffic here and I assume there will be real debate as to why this is happening.

I've come across a whole slew of articles that discuss a significant change in Gen Z. In previous generations, women have alway been more religious than men. Go into any church, and more women than men are sitting in the pews, running the office, active in its ministries. Gen Z has turned that on its head. Young people as a whole are leaving religion and becoming "nones," but surprisingly, a significantly larger percent of women are leaving than men. This is true in all religions.

There doesn't seem to be just one reasons. Most of these women give multiple reasons. It appears to be what might be called the perfect storm. Relevant issues are: unequal treatment of men and women, LGBT exclusion, personal trauma, scandals, simply losing faith, other things in life taking priority, rigid gender roles, teachings on sexuality, too political, and hypocrisy of the leadership.

Where are they going? They appear to be becoming politically active.

The reverse trend is seen in young men. Traditionally, men have been more active in politics than women, but they are leaving politics.

Comments?

Americans are becoming less religious. None more than this group

Americans are becoming less religious. None more than this group

Studies show young women now outpacing young men in leaving the church. Experts blame frustration over gender roles and concerns over social issues.

www.usatoday.com

Young Woman are Fleeing Organized Religion. This Was Predictable.

Opinion | Young Women Are Fleeing Organized Religion. This Was Predictable.

They’re increasingly identifying as feminist at the same time that some denominations are drawing conservative lines in the sand.

www.nytimes.com

Young Women Are Leaving Church in Unprecedented Numbers

Young Women Are Leaving Church in Unprecedented Numbers - The Survey Center on American Life

The gender divide in religiosity has flipped

www.americansurveycenter.org

The Gender Gap in Religion

The Gender Gap in Religion

What does it mean that many more young women than young men are leaving American churches?

www.theamericanconservative.com

Thanks a lot for the research mate.