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Your Stance on death penalty?

Servant_of_the_One1

Servant_of_the_One1

Well-Known Member
Are you in favor of death penalty or not, and why?

From my religious point of view and from humane perspective i believe death penalty is needed. Its effective.
People will think twice about committing murder or dealing in hard drugs.
 
Koldo

Koldo

Outstanding Member
I am in favour of death penalty on cases of murder. But totally and completely opposed to it when it comes down to drug selling ( of any kind ).
 
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Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
I disagree with the death penalty and I don't approve of any killing regardless the reason. Maybe make the theme a little more specific?

Servant_of_the_One said:
Are you in favor of death penalty or not, and why?

From my religious point of view and from humane perspective i believe death penalty is needed. Its effective.
People will think twice about committing murder or dealing in hard drugs.
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Servant_of_the_One1

Servant_of_the_One1

Well-Known Member
The reason i asked this question is becausd Indonesia executed drugsdealers from various countries such as Australia and Netherlands. So i wanted to know your stance.
 
jeager106

jeager106

Learning more about Jehovah.
Premium Member
Shadow Wolf said:
The death penalty has never been proven to be an effective deterrent, and the risk of putting an innocent person to death is too high.
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This is fact. It only deters the person executed.
I have a bit of experience in this kind of thing.
I've known innocent people that went to prison, not executed, but did serious time and it takes an act of god to spring them.
Ted Bundy? Yeah, hang 'em.
 
Cephus

Cephus

Relentlessly Rational
Servant_of_the_One said:
The reason i asked this question is becausd Indonesia executed drugsdealers from various countries such as Australia and Netherlands. So i wanted to know your stance.
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Each individual society has a right to make their own laws and determine their own penalties as they see fit. If you don't like the laws in a particular society, especially if you plan to break those laws, I recommend you don't go at all.
 
Draka

Draka

Wonder Woman
Against it. Doesn't really work as a deterrent. Innocents have been put down. Ties up our legal system with costly appeal after appeal. It makes the state, the legal system, no better than the ones being "punished".
 
Cephus

Cephus

Relentlessly Rational
Draka said:
Against it. Doesn't really work as a deterrent. Innocents have been put down. Ties up our legal system with costly appeal after appeal. It makes the state, the legal system, no better than the ones being "punished".
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It's not called the "death deterrent", it isn't supposed to be a deterrent, it is a punishment. It guarantees with 100% effectiveness that the disposed of killer will never kill again. Now yes, there have been wrongful executions, but we're human, we can and do make mistakes and we need to learn from those mistakes so that we avoid making them again. We let people rot in prison wrongfully too, that doesn't mean we get rid of prisons.
 
BSM1

BSM1

What? Me worry?
Shadow Wolf said:
The death penalty has never been proven to be an effective deterrent, and the risk of putting an innocent person to death is too high.
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The death penalty was never meant to be a deterrent, it is a punishment. It is inherent for the State to enact and enforce this punishment on those that purposely take another's life. There is obviously no true deterrent to crime, but the death penalty certainly deters this particular felon from committing any more violent acts.
 
Cephus

Cephus

Relentlessly Rational
BSM1 said:
The death penalty was never meant to be a deterrent, it is a punishment. It is inherent for the State to enact and enforce this punishment on those that purposely take another's life. There is obviously no true deterrent to crime, but the death penalty certainly deters this particular felon from committing any more violent acts.
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Exactly, prison doesn't deter anyone either, the vast majority of people who go to prison end up back in prison in very short order. But you don't get people saying we should get rid of prisons because it doesn't deter crime. This is, as usual, a wholly emotional argument.
 
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Nietzsche

The Last Prussian
Premium Member
When we can prove guilt 100% and there is no longer even the hope of a chance of mistake, we can kill people for their crimes in good conscience. Not before.
 
Draka

Draka

Wonder Woman
Cephus said:
It's not called the "death deterrent", it isn't supposed to be a deterrent, it is a punishment. It guarantees with 100% effectiveness that the disposed of killer will never kill again. Now yes, there have been wrongful executions, but we're human, we can and do make mistakes and we need to learn from those mistakes so that we avoid making them again. We let people rot in prison wrongfully too, that doesn't mean we get rid of prisons.
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In many times the punishment outweighs the crime. just the fact that innocent people have been put to death for crimes they didn't commit, I think, should be enough to make us want to try to find a better way. I personally think much of our "punishment" system needs an overhaul, with more focus on rehabilitation in most cases. Our prisons are too full, with punishments harsher than the crimes committed in many cases. It is just my opinion that we need to grow, need to evolve, need to come up with something better.
 
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