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Your Suffering

Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member
Different things… it’s not confined to just one source.

it could be due to my bad choices. A lack of wisdom.

it could by my imperfection. I have a handicap that I hate dealing with.

Or my suffering could result from others’ imperfections.

Or maybe their bad choices. From politicians, maybe.

Goodness, it could be a combination!
 

wandering peacefully

Which way to the woods?
Everyone suffers but clearly everyone does not suffer equally. As adults we are responsible for how we deal with our suffering unless we are mentally impaired in some way

We agree on this. Because how is anyone able to measure suffering except for their own? And for people with paranoid schizophrenia who must rely on medicines to help control their suffering, there is a special place in heaven for them.
Still, there are the people without severe mental disabilities who will seek out ways to alleviate their own suffering and their are those people who will wallow in their suffering believing there is no way out and who almost are dependent on their suffering as an excuse to avoid the unpleasant circumstances in their lives. We all have unpleasant experiences. Every human experiences painful happenings. I agree that those suffering starvation, crime, dreadful living conditions, natural disasters, death and disease suffer more than most, but somehow, many of these people find a way to accept their suffering and still find a purpose for carrying on. Some can't find a way and end their lives themselves. No one is blaming them for not being able to find a way.

But for those with the mental capacities and secure life necessities, complaining about suffering in the form of percieved injustices or feelings that they cannot do anything about what they believe are wrongs brought upon them by something or someone other than themselves just seems childish, selfish, and certainly not deserving of sympathy. Especially when they refuse to examine possibilities that may help them elevate their understanding of what suffering truly is and that they are not special in their suffering and refuse to help their own conditions of non understanding.

A person with unlimited resources, clear mental capacities, good heath and an ability if they choose, to find ways of reducing their own suffering but won't because they are attached to suffering as an excuse to feel self pity, does not deserve sympathy, as I see it.

There are plenty of sufferers who deserve sympathy. Just not the ones who have it all yet refuse to take the responsibility of changing their ways of thinking to alleviate their own suffering and instead use it as an excuse not to grow or be responsible for their own lives, feelings or actions. There is no one else to save ourselves from our percieved mentally uncomfortable troubles, barring incapacitating mental illness, except ourselves. It is not arrogance, it is progress as I see it.

Hope this makes sense to you. I really don't know how else to explain it.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
But for those with the mental capacities and secure life necessities, complaining about suffering in the form of percieved injustices or feelings that they cannot do anything about what they believe are wrongs brought upon them by something or someone other than themselves just seems childish, selfish, and certainly not deserving of sympathy. Especially when they refuse to examine possibilities that may help them elevate their understanding of what suffering truly is and that they are not special in their suffering and refuse to help their own conditions of non understanding.
A person might suffer but not blame someone else or something else. In fact, people who suffer from depression more often than not blame themselves and feel guilty when they are not guilty of anything. They might have examined possibilities that helped them elevate their understanding of what suffering truly is and they might know that that they are not special in their suffering, yet they still suffer. There are many people who seek help for grief, depression and anxiety all their lives yet they still suffer from these conditions. There is no magic formula.
A person with unlimited resources, clear mental capacities, good heath and an ability if they choose, to find ways of reducing their own suffering but won't because they are attached to suffering as an excuse to feel self pity, does not deserve sympathy, as I see it.
I don't believe that just because a person has unlimited resources, clear mental capacities, and good heath, that means they can always find ways to end their own suffering. I also do not believe that just because they cannot end their suffering that means they are attached to suffering and use it as an excuse to feel self pity. People who suffer do not choose to suffer unless they are masochistic or they suffer for a cause or a loved one. It may or may not be true that some people feel self pity but I do not believe we can judge other people because we have not walked in their shoes.
 
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Moonjuice

In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey
Thank you for that...I don’t have to worry about your safety in those excursions now. I hope you enjoy them.....nature is healing and invigorating. We need to get lost in it more often I think.....Covid is not lurking out there....snakes and other critters maybe though....how do you deal with those dangers?
Oh, the critters aren't so bad. When it comes to snakes, the rule is don't step on one and don't mess with it. They will leave you alone 100% of the time. Unless of course they are sleeping...like this one:
 

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
Oh, the critters aren't so bad. When it comes to snakes, the rule is don't step on one and don't mess with it. They will leave you alone 100% of the time. Unless of course they are sleeping...like this one:
Amazing.....looks like you scared him as much as he scared you.....mutual respect is good.

Love your videos BTW....we can take a walk with you whilst we are stuck at home in lockdown in Oz....:D So grateful for this technology.
 

Moonjuice

In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey
Amazing.....looks like you scared him as much as he scared you.....mutual respect is good.

Love your videos BTW....we can take a walk with you whilst we are stuck at home in lockdown in Oz....:D So grateful for this technology.
Oh yeah, I'm sure that little guy was hoping his camouflage would keep me from bothering him. Thanks for watching them! I try to shoot the trail as much as possible, so my parents and kids (and whoever) can get a little sense of what its like to be out there.
 
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