Unveiled Artist
Veteran Member
You can still put people in danger.
CDC does say unvax are a greater risk.
Why would I disagree?
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You can still put people in danger.
CDC does say unvax are a greater risk.
Why would I disagree?
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I don't disagree. Just remove the mask requirement to prove how good it is and everything is golden.
LESS danger by getting vaccinated. You like to avoid this fact.
Do you not care about reducing the threat to others? Or do you not care about others?
Masks are still protecting vaccinated people, and those who have a valid reason to NOT be vaccinated. The threat is those who are unvaccinated and carry MORE virus into public places, wether they know or not. The advantage to being vaccinated is that even if you do get exposed your body fights the virus and limits the replication, thus less contagious, less virus being replicated, less spread. The unvaccinated are full blown hosts for massive virus replication. Their body has to recognize the virus and THEN start making antibodies. The vaccine lets the body create antibodies ahead of time, so it's ready.
The issue is: can we trust people who listen to disinformation about vaccines to wear a mask in public, and to quarantine if they become ill?
ratiocinator
Lightly seared on the reality grill.
Are you even being serious? Being vaccinated means there is less chance of getting the virus, less chance of you getting seriously ill if you do, and less chance of infecting other people. That's (considerably) less chance, not a perfect 100% guarantee, so masks still help.
You seem to be saying that you don't care about reducing the risk to yourself and to others (which is what's important - if you just want to risk your own life and health, that's up to you) because it isn't a perfect 100% guarantee.
This is a huge flaw in the thinking of anti-mask and anti-vaccine people, they believe they are making an independent decision. That would be true IF they live alone and don't go into public. But they obviously out in public, getting Covid, and spreading it to others. We see fights all over the USA at school board meetings where fights break out over mask and vaccine mandates. These folks follow a sort of anarchy, and reject the social contract that they rely on. There is very little independence in big societies when it comes to public health. Right wing disinformation has certainly damaged societies all over the world.
ElishaElijah
Return
We got that covered already, we have vaccines, natural immunity, monoclonal antibody treatments so you can stop participating in the fear mongering, scare tactics, coercion etc. Something for everyone now. Any other vaccine only talk, mandates, divisive speech is only about control and money.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Tell me about any vaccine in the entire history of the planet that requires additional measures after being inoculated.
I want to know if this was ever a standard thing done in the past, or if this is something new that surfaced with this modern generation of people.
InChrist
Free4ever
Exactly, here’s some insight from a retired doctor on the government control and why it’s so difficult to freely treat patients...
https://www.americanthinker.com/art...h_covid_panic_porn_and_cdc_prescriptions.html
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I wish more people would understand that.
It's not about vaccination or spreading one's own particular view on what's deemed as misinformation or not.
It's about fighting incursions of power and control over others.
ratiocinator
Lightly seared on the reality grill.
Do I hear the sound of straws being clutched at and the bottoms of barrels being scraped? What possible difference would it make either way?
FYI here in England, where most of the population are now vaccinated (90% one dose, 82% both doses, of those over 16), there are no longer legal requirements for masks in most places, just voluntary advice.
ratiocinator
Lightly seared on the reality grill.
InChrist
Free4ever
Doesn’t matter if you don’t like the source. I think what should matter is whether the information is accurate. Did you read it?
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SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
I was talking about the vaccine.
Monoclonal antibody treatment is pretty expensive. Better to exercise prevention instead, whenever possible.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
The MMR vaccine requires a booster shot.
I remember getting a Hepatitis B vaccine back when I was in school that required 3 different shots, spaced out a few months apart.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
The source sounds extremely biased. That's just based on his own word usage.
Fauci Fraud?
InChrist
Free4ever
What about left wing misinformation?
Most of the anger I’ve seen at school boards had been about the pornographic material in school libraries or being taught to little kids, not about vaccines because young kids don’t get them yet.
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InChrist
Free4ever
People are not considered fully vaccinated until 14 days after their final injection. So if they get Covid in the meantime they are counted as unvaccinated. So I don’t think the claim that the latest outbreak is due to the unvaccinated is entirety accurate.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Such as?
Those people sound like nuts.
Most of the school board fiascos I've seen had to do with parents thinking that their children are being taught critical race theory when they actually aren't.
No they haven't.
InChrist
Free4ever
Maybe so, but my thought is that everyone is bias one way or another. What matters is the information correct.The source sounds extremely biased. That's just based on his own word usage.
Fauci Fraud?