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Zelensky says the war will end faster under Trump

stvdv

Veteran Member

More clues about the Democratic Party wanting the war to last forever.
Zelensky says the war will end faster under Trump

Trump might have given Zelensky a deadline

I don't give you $60 billion each visit
Just the fare for your trip to the US

What did you say? You want to win the war?

I, Trump, will Bless you with God's Grace
Not with our American dollars this time
;)
 
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Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
So we can safely assume you don't care for freedom and liberty. Why side with those who would throw you against the wall?
This is not a game, Sara.
This is the fate of Europe and its geopolitical stability.

It's all about respecting borders based upon compromise.
I mean...look at the European Union...in the 20th century so many borders were contested...now we love each other...and respect each other's borders, even if the Axis did bad things. France and Germany love each other.
 

Jayhawker Soule

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Premium Member
It's all about respecting borders based upon compromise

Out of respect I'll take that as an attempt at sarcasm rather than sick Putin propaganda.

A far more informed (and, perhaps honest) view can be found in Megan K. Stack's opinion piece in the New York Times: Trump Can Speed Up the Inevitable in Ukraine which begins:

President-elect Donald Trump is inheriting a blood-soaked war in Ukraine. He has pledged to put a swift end to the carnage.​
Mr. Trump hasn’t explained his plan — if, indeed, he has one — but Vice President-elect JD Vance has called for Ukraine to cede captured land to Russia and drop its pleas to join NATO in exchange for peace. Mr. Trump’s national security adviser nominee, Representative Michael Waltz of Florida, has criticized the flow of U.S. aid to Ukraine and called for prompt negotiations, questioning whether the United States should support the complete liberation of Ukraine.​
If Mr. Trump follows their advice and pushes Ukraine into talks that result in lost territory, his political rivals as well as hawks in his own party will accuse him of abandoning Ukraine and rewarding Vladimir Putin’s hunger for expansion.​
They would be right; there’s no way to sugarcoat it. Ukrainians would be hung out to dry, and Mr. Putin could end up attacking again or expanding his imperial designs to other neighbors.​
Mr. Trump should do it anyway.​

She concludes:

America is not going to save Ukraine. Maybe we need Mr. Trump — brazen and unscrupulous — to finally say so out loud and act accordingly.​

Perhaps she's right. At the very least, she's unapologetically clear, rather than playing the role of starstruck Putin pawn.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Out of respect I'll take that as an attempt at sarcasm rather than sick Putin propaganda.

A far more informed (and, perhaps honest) view can be found in Megan K. Stack's opinion piece in the New York Times: Trump Can Speed Up the Inevitable in Ukraine which begins:

President-elect Donald Trump is inheriting a blood-soaked war in Ukraine. He has pledged to put a swift end to the carnage.​
Mr. Trump hasn’t explained his plan — if, indeed, he has one — but Vice President-elect JD Vance has called for Ukraine to cede captured land to Russia and drop its pleas to join NATO in exchange for peace. Mr. Trump’s national security adviser nominee, Representative Michael Waltz of Florida, has criticized the flow of U.S. aid to Ukraine and called for prompt negotiations, questioning whether the United States should support the complete liberation of Ukraine.​
If Mr. Trump follows their advice and pushes Ukraine into talks that result in lost territory, his political rivals as well as hawks in his own party will accuse him of abandoning Ukraine and rewarding Vladimir Putin’s hunger for expansion.​
They would be right; there’s no way to sugarcoat it. Ukrainians would be hung out to dry, and Mr. Putin could end up attacking again or expanding his imperial designs to other neighbors.​
Mr. Trump should do it anyway.​

She concludes:

America is not going to save Ukraine. Maybe we need Mr. Trump — brazen and unscrupulous — to finally say so out loud and act accordingly.​

Perhaps she's right. At the very least, she's unapologetically clear, rather than playing the role of starstruck Putin pawn.
Because the narrative is that Putin wants to conquer Europe, right?
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
You posted in a more general forum.
And then made it about US Democrats, Schwesterherz.
I advise reading & understanding one's own posts.
Then don't object when others relevantly respond to them.
Yes, but the topic here is the war.
Which is in Europe.
Not on Mars.
 

BrightShadow

Active Member
So we can safely assume you don't care for freedom and liberty.

Freedom and liberty?
Those are big words - but what about life, peace and prosperity? What about 'safety' for the folks who are around Ukraine?
Do they have a voice in this?
You gonna fight to death until one party wins?:rolleyes:


No more Joe = No more dough

Zelensky came to his senses and realized the money spent behind the war is not worth the land Ukraine may be asked to give up.
Notice: I didn't say - 'lives lost'. Zelensky doesn't care about lives lost.:(

Folks behind Zelensky also realized more money can be made via price increase of cryptos than they ever could get from Joe.;)

Also anyone believing Russia will try to expand - should put that thought to rest.
They need to understand that - Russia has learned a lesson that it is not easy to expand without incurring a huge lose of life and assets.

So, Putin will stay put after this.
Putin will not try to expand any time soon or ever. He is getting too old for another round.

So, receive the 'peace' with open arms - it will be arriving shortly - delivered by the one and only - Trump!;)

:cool:
 
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