stvdv
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* Atheists lack personal God-experience(s)
* Atheists lack gullibility to trust hearsay
* Atheists lack scientific God proof
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What makes somebody atheist and not a theist?
- Thread starter AnthonyGiarrusso
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* Atheists lack gullibility to trust hearsay
* Atheists lack scientific God proof
I think the obvious answer (but which might be wrong of course) is simply that humans have created all the variants as to religious beliefs, and the spectrum of such beliefs does seem to be almost filled with whatever can be assigned to 'something other than physicality', even if the monotheistic God does tend to be the most popular concept over much else - because it probably is the better explanation (as to some creator God) of these many beliefs. For me, the simple numbers of different beliefs set me off as to querying religious beliefs, and although I am basically an agnostic atheist, I simply couldn't accept the evidence for any of the religious beliefs. But I can understand and accept why so many do believe in their particular faith - if not too unreasonable.
PureX
Veteran Member
It's the same reason that people speak so many different languages, and wear different cloths, and eat different foods. There is only one Earth, and yet we all experience it and interact with it a bit differently.
The real question is why did you expect otherwise?
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
I explained why. You couldn't refute the facts.
Excuse what? The phrase should probably be "appearance of intellingent oversight."
It exists, and we find no intelligent designers. What needs evidence is the latter. If there are no intelligent designers, then it MUST have evolved naturalistically.
Sure there is. You must have missed it in your science education.
The faith is all yours. Your belief that an intelligent designer exists needs better support than an incredulity fallacy. What you can't see isn't a standard for deciding anything in science.
PureX
Veteran Member
And science isn't the deciding factor for what is or can be true or untrue.
Empiricism is the ONLY path to knowledge. The rest is guessing.
PureX
Veteran Member
It's all guessing. But the scientism cult, like the religious zealots they abhor, can't accept that. They need to believe in a "higher power" that they can use to set them above their human fallibility.
Audie
Veteran Member
Why do you see it as a "lack of"
something?
Like
"Those guys lack tapeworms
Or communist brainwashing
Or a passion for Rhodesian stick- ball."
What do theists lack?
RestlessSoul
Well-Known Member
Observation, investigation, reason, and experience are the means by which knowledge is acquired. Contempt prior to investigation, and dismissal of experiences that don’t fit our prejudices, are among the means by which ignorance becomes entrenched.
PureX
Veteran Member
Reason.
Audie
Veteran Member
It will be a terrif step toward self knowledge
if you accept that making things up isnt even
guessing.
McBell
mantra-chanting henotheistic snake handler
I disagree.
theists have reasons for their beliefs.
- Disliking them
- disagreeing with them
- not understanding them
Audie
Veteran Member
Huh?
Audie
Veteran Member
Like, "abandon all reason, ye who
enter unto the path of theism"?
McBell
mantra-chanting henotheistic snake handler
huh what?
wellwisher
Well-Known Member
It has to do with the side of the brain the ego uses most for thought processing. Atheists tend to be more left brained while theist tend to be more right brained. The left brain is more rational and differential which can be understood as 2-D thought; cause=x, and effect=y. While theism is more about symbolism and spatial thought which are 3-D thought. For example, the definition of God, in theory, is a spatial and integral concept that includes everything; alpha to omega, including what science has yet to understand.
Not everyone has their ego in the correct side of the brain to see or grasp such a 3-D concept. Faith is involved since it adds an extra intuitive z-axis to get beyond 2-D cause and effect. This is why art and theism go hand in hand; beyond the void of reason; z-axis.
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Audie
Veteran Member
I could make no sense of your post
McBell
mantra-chanting henotheistic snake handler
It was strongly implied that theists lack reason.
I merely point out that theists have reasons for their beliefs.
that some people disagree with those reasons, and or dislike those reasons, and or do not understand those reasons, in no way make those reasons disappear.
It is basically the whole "evidence" paradigm all over again.