Hi everyone, I'm Jewish, and I'm here to engage in a respectful and open discussion about the role of Jesus Christ. As someone who doesn't believe in Christ, I hold the perspective that both Christianity and Islam have been orchestrated by God to spread monotheism.
Recently, I had a thought-provoking discussion with a spokesman from a Christian institute on youtube, and it led me to ponder how difficult to discern Christ's true nature without understanding Hebrew.
Just for the sake of discussion, if Christ wasn't the Messiah, what was he?
I do apologize if anyone is offended, but I think we should have an open, respectful, and tolerant discussion about anything.
I look forward to hearing different perspectives and engaging in a thoughtful exchange of ideas.
To answer this question of Jesus and the Messiah, we need to go back to the Garden of Eden.
God never wanted Adam and Eve to eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. God never wanted humans to learn the path of law. Law was not God's first choice, so God created a prohibition, against law; Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, to help Adam and Eve choose the tree of Life. How could God's second choice; law, be the best way toward salvation? This is common sense.
The analogy would be like a parent saying to their precocious High School child, you can become a doctor or artist, but we prefer you not become an artist. They are not telling the child what to do; be a doctor. but leaving it open for their will and choice. The child chooses to become an artist; sort of the taboo and the choice of the rebel. This is not the Parent's first choice; tree of Life, but they accept their child's choice and hire the Artist who won their child over by his artistic talent, to be their mentor. Satan was the good lawyer. The mentor is placed on the payroll, so the parents can advise the mentor, to help funnel their child down a path of success, as an artist.
The tree of Life was God's first choice. There were no restrictions not to eat of that tree. However, Adam and Eve made a choice, with the help of Satan, to eat of the Tree of Knowledge of good and evil; law. This symbolism shows that Law has a connection to Satan. This is why law falls short. Satan would become the middle man between God and Law; Book of Job, with God advising.
The Tree of Life had no middleman, but was a direct connection to God. The tree of life would be analogous to natural human instinct. The natural animal is true to its God given nature and does not need school to teach it how to be innate like a baby monkey, kitten or puppy. There was no entity in the Tree of Life to act as a middle man for Adam and Eve. Rather eating of this tree; choice; would have given them a direct interface to God; their purpose in life. Law is more like your social purpose from the superego of culture; learned good versus evil professions.
The Mosaic Law, although good in a relative sense of what came before, was still law and still had the Satan middleman. Satan followed Adam and Eve out of paradise was made the Lord of the Earth; mentor, in charge of humans, acting as their intermediary between God and Law, as Satan had done from the beginning; their first taste of the apple of law.
By the time of Jesus, the problems of law were starting to become obvious due to the Satan middleman; Lord of the Earth. Law can be used by crooks to fortify their power and oppress the poor. Law was originally created for the righteous man to protect them from evil, but the evil man soon learned from law, how to spin and twist law to benefit evil; Pharisees, hypocrisy and dual standards. Any corrupt dictator will make self-serving laws to maintain their control. Law of good and evil is not just for good but also has an evil side, in terms of human nature and implied applications. The Israeli and Palestinian problem is supported by laws on both sides.
Jesus, before he began his ministry, went into the desert to fast and pray. There Satan came to tempt Jesus. Among the many temptations, Satan offers Jesus all the power, glory and wealth of the Kingdoms of the Earth, if Jesus would bow and serve him. Had Jesus accepted the offer, he could have become the Messiah, who had been prophesied by the Law; powerful, wealthy and even able to subdue Rome, whose kingdom Satan appointed and controlled. But by refusing to bow to Satan, Jesus became something even better.
This refusal to become the Messiah, by Jesus, and his execution during Easter, would lead to a political battle in Heaven. Satan had been condoned in Heaven from the fall from Paradise, to that point in time, as the middle man of God; God's CEO, between Heaven and humans. But Jesus by not fulfilling the law of Satan, refused to become the rich, powerful and famous Messiah, and then Satan allowing Jesus to be killed, broke the contract with God, Satan and Law.
In Revelations of the New Testament, after a lengthy political debate, there is a battle in Heaven. Micheal the Archangel and his armies fought against Satan and his army, and Satan is forced out of Heaven. Law and Satan was no longer condoned in Heaven. However, law would remain on earth, since Satan remained, banished to the Earth. Most humans were not aware of the change, so law gets very repressive, especially toward the earliest Christians; law used by evil for evil.
Symbolically, Satan had been condoned by God during the Old Testament, to act as an intermediary to the humans. This had a progressive effect. Jesus marked a turning point, where Satan's services were no longer needed in Heaven. Instead, a direct connection would be established to God and the Tree of Life, via the Holy Spirit; one substance with God. Jesus first needed to be killed and resurrected; God's plan while Satan was still condoned in heaven, so Jesus could leave behind the Holy Spirit and help establish a connection to Tree of Life. In the future, Satan would be thrown to earth, where he continued to rule most humans, but now without a direct connection to God and the blessings of Heaven. It was the same law evolving, but not the same equation with respect to Heaven. From BC to early AD there was a transition in the law from bring condoned by Heaven and not condoned in Heaven, except via the Holy Spirit and Tree of Life.
I remember being young and always thinking of BC as being very bright; Egypt, Persia, Greece, Rome, etc. This reminded me of summer. While AD, which would go into the pervasion of Rome, the invasion by the barbarians, the dark ages, etc., cloudy and dim. Now this sense appears to have been connected to Satan either being on God's payroll; summer of BC, or free lancing; rainy fall of AD.
