Ajax
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In Genesis the plants were created before the sun moon and stars
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Brian2
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I have re-read Genesis 2 and decided it was probably on day 6 that God planted out Eden, same day that Adam was created.
excreationist
Married mouth-breather
It looks like Answers in Genesis (YECs) also say that Adam and Eve were created on day 6....
Contradictions: Eve’s Birth Certificate
Genesis 1 and 2 seem to indicate different times for the creation of Eve. Was Eve created on Day Six or not?
answersingenesis.org
Brian2
Veteran Member
Here's one that you will love.
Hazy Early Earth: More Affirmation of Creation Day 4
When I first arrived in Pasadena for postdoctoral research at Caltech, the haze of Los Angeles smog was so thick that it was several weeks before I realized that a range of 6,000-foot high mountains lay just three miles to the north. Now, thanks to air pollution abatement, I see those mountains...
reasons.org
Clouds May Hold Key to Why Early Earth Didn’t Freeze Over
Solution to 'young' sun paradox proposed through thinner clouds on early Earth.
Basically science does not know for sure about the clouds but the Bible day 1 hypothesis is also what many scientists are saying but probably don't realise that they are confirming the Bible.
Brian2
Veteran Member
It looks like Answers in Genesis (YECs) also say that Adam and Eve were created on day 6....
But then God rested for a day....Contradictions: Eve’s Birth Certificate
Genesis 1 and 2 seem to indicate different times for the creation of Eve. Was Eve created on Day Six or not?
Genesis 1 tells us that Adam and Eve were created on day 6.
Genesis 2 imo is not a separate creation story but is the same creation story as Genesis 1 and concentrates on man and when God formed man.
It can be read as saying that God began to form man from the dirt by evolution and started when single cell microbes were formed before the multicell first plants. This was maybe on day 3 if we are comparing Genesis 1 with Genesis 2 accounts.
The actual creation of man however is not when man was formed from the dirt, it was when God breathed into Adam, the breathe of life on day 6.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Please be serious. Using pseudoscience websites is the same as admitting that you are wrong.Here's one that you will love.
Here is another that ends up as science does, with a not certain conclusion because some scientists disagree.Hazy Early Earth: More Affirmation of Creation Day 4
When I first arrived in Pasadena for postdoctoral research at Caltech, the haze of Los Angeles smog was so thick that it was several weeks before I realized that a range of 6,000-foot high mountains lay just three miles to the north. Now, thanks to air pollution abatement, I see those mountains...
Clouds May Hold Key to Why Early Earth Didn’t Freeze Over
Solution to 'young' sun paradox proposed through thinner clouds on early Earth.www.space.com
Basically science does not know for sure about the clouds but the Bible day 1 hypothesis is also what many scientists are saying but probably don't realise that they are confirming the Bible.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Muslims follow the Quran. The god described in the Old Testament of the Bible and the New Testament of the Bible are quite different from the god of the Quran. These are all clearly very different gods, as described.
Nope.
I also realize that the number of people who believe in a thing has no bearing on whether or not that thing is actually true.
Ajax
Active Member
So why the conclusion must be that the literal reading is not true, and not that the whole story is not true?
In the story the days are supposed to be literal, because each one has an evening and a morning.
Also for those who think that the Bible is inerrant, Exodus 20:11 states "For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy."
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excreationist
Married mouth-breather
Perhaps it could mean "For in the creation poem, God made the heavens and the earth, etc, in six days". Though I believe that the whole story is not true.
YoursTrue
Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
You didn't understand the question?????
YoursTrue
Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
That is one reason why the 'days' of creation must refer to a period of time with beginning and an end.It looks like Answers in Genesis (YECs) also say that Adam and Eve were created on day 6....
But then God rested for a day....Contradictions: Eve’s Birth Certificate
Genesis 1 and 2 seem to indicate different times for the creation of Eve. Was Eve created on Day Six or not?
YoursTrue
Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Obviously you have that right to believe that the account is not true. That is in part described in the Bible in many different ways.
Ajax
Active Member
No I didn't, because when you wrote the question, I had not posted anything on this thread. Also I have said many times that I'm agnostic and science orientated. So why should I believe that the earth is flat?
YoursTrue
Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
OK, I just asked. Thanks for that.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
The question is why don't you believe in a Flat Earth?
. . .and geocentric universe,
. . . also the Creationist universe is not in the box.
No conformation involving science. Your arguing from ignorance' to justify an ancient scripture. Yes, scientist disagree on some things and there are unknowns concerning the origins of the universe, but there are no hazy unknowns concerning the history of our solar system, and the physics of the formation of the planets including the earth,Here's one that you will love.
Here is another that ends up as science does, with a not certain conclusion because some scientists disagree.Hazy Early Earth: More Affirmation of Creation Day 4
When I first arrived in Pasadena for postdoctoral research at Caltech, the haze of Los Angeles smog was so thick that it was several weeks before I realized that a range of 6,000-foot high mountains lay just three miles to the north. Now, thanks to air pollution abatement, I see those mountains...
Clouds May Hold Key to Why Early Earth Didn’t Freeze Over
Solution to 'young' sun paradox proposed through thinner clouds on early Earth.
Basically science does not know for sure about the clouds but the Bible day 1 hypothesis is also what many scientists are saying but probably don't realise that they are confirming the Bible.
You need to look at the Creation synario of Genesis honestly and realize it describes a very small geocentric universe created in a short time frame. and not the vast universe and solar system billions of years old, and the evolution of life over a period of 3.7+ billions.
The simple vastness of the universe is conceptually beyond any interpretation of Genesis.
It is much more practical and honest to consider the scientific perspective of the vastness of the universe in time and space is a witness to the scientific view of the glory of Creation without error on a scale far beyond any interpretation of the Bible.
excreationist
Married mouth-breather
Genesis 22:17, Jeremiah 33:22, and Hebrews 11:12 talk about the number of stars in the sky being roughly the same as the grains of sand on the seashore - which is roughly true even though the naked eye can only see several thousand stars in the sky. Though it also says that this number is the same as the number of descendants that Abraham will have.
Though having lots of stars isn't necessarily vast depending on the size and spacing of the stars.
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