Shallow Revenge vs True Revenge

[The Hammer]

Some are called to it, mostly men, because it’s highly meaningful and we seek meaning.

That's unfortunate

 

[Treasure Hunter]

Sounds maddening, not meaningful.

But that's just my opinion.

I get that, but human history suggests it’s not going away. We must consciously navigate through to the other side.

 

[JustGeorge]

I get that, but human history suggests it’s not going away. We must consciously navigate through to the other side.

Humans will always display a large range of feelings and activities spurred by them, but I'd rather not encourage the negative ones.

 

[The Hammer]

I get that, but human history suggests it’s not going away. We must consciously navigate through to the other side.

Revenge and seeking it doesn't provide transformation.

The other side doesn't exist

 

[Treasure Hunter]

Revenge and seeking it doesn't provide transformation.

The other side doesn't exist

It does. The path has been prepared.

 

[The Hammer]

It does. The path has been prepared.

I don't agree.

 

[The Hammer]

It does. The path has been prepared.

There is no justice outside of what we create. And for it to be true justice it needs to be devoid of emotional reactions outside of understanding.

 

[Koldo]

The claim is if you pursue true revenge (filtered through justice) to its end, eventually it leads to a self-transformation where the desire for revenge is ultimately fulfilled and never to return. It’s a faith claim, I realize, but without this belief, all we have is a never ending game of tit-for-tat in an unjust world.

But that's indeed what we have.

 

[crossfire]

Yes, #3 filters the desire for revenge through justice. I can see the conflict between 1 and 3. Maybe 1 isn’t even necessary. Thanks for the feedback.

It's also more conducive for self-transformation: transforming anger into clear thinking and problem solving. This also makes you less vulnerable to fall for a taunt.

 

[☆Dreamwind☆]

My personal takes on revenge are:

They should be short, sweet, and proportional to the wrongs done. If it's creative, that's even better. Once it's done, that's it! Don't engage with them anymore if possible.

You should never let on that you were the one who-dunnit. Because depending on the method of your retaliation, you could get into a buttload of legal trouble.

Your revenge should never harm the innocent and uninvolved, that are connected to the person you hate.