Do christians go straight to heaven upon their deaths?

[Yes]

Didn't every author of the Bible speak Hebrew?

(This is the place where you agree with me that I have a solid point.)

The New Testament was written in Greek. God brings the message to us in our language. We do not have to study another language to know God's Truth.

 

[Yes]

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I think

most

i think most "christians" are going to Hell when they die. They will be judged to be Babylonian sun worshipers who never repented of their sins.

Most those who call themselves 'Christian', they are stubborn and hard. I hope that when they meet their Maker, they can humble themselves and repent. I hope they do this after they die, or before Jesus comes again, for it will be too late by then.
We know this for sure, they are not saved in this life, for they do not submit to God's ways, but rather to the ways of some false denomination.

 

[Yes]

since most all christians reject God's 10 commandments and never repented they will be going to hell

We do not have to observe special days. ALL the special days observances were about JESUS. Jesus came and we are to observe him, not special days. Jesus is our Sabbath Rest. We are to observe Jesus all day every day.

 

[BummerBeavis]

We do not have to observe special days. ALL the special days observances were about JESUS. Jesus came and we are to observe him, not special days. Jesus is our Sabbath Rest. We are to observe Jesus all day every day.

We know that we have come to know him if we keep his commands. 4 Whoever says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in that person. so this is why your religion is un biblical

 

[BummerBeavis]

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Most those who call themselves 'Christian', they are stubborn and hard. I hope that when they meet their Maker, they can humble themselves and repent. I hope they do this after they die, or before Jesus comes again, for it will be too late by then.
We know this for sure, they are not saved in this life, for they do not submit to God's ways, but rather to the ways of some false denomination.

repent means keeping the 10

 

[BummerBeavis]

Since 9 times out of 10, "Hell" is a translation of Hades - the place where everyone goes when they die - then your statement makes little sense. Now if you are referring to Gehemma, or Tartarus, then I might agree. The popular Christian concept of hell is a false tradition - a tradition popularized by Dante.

Certainly though, all men will be judged and sent to a place befitting their faith or lack thereof.

more specific We know that we have come to know him if we keep his commands. 4 Whoever says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in that person.

 

[Yes]

We know that we have come to know him if we keep his commands. 4 Whoever says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in that person. so this is why your religion is un biblical

We have to obey Jesus. That is how we are saved. That is how we know him.
When Jesus died, Jesus fulfilled the old law with its ceremonial law. God nailed the rules and regulations to the cross.

Observing special days is worthless, it is nothing. Circumcision of the flesh is now mutilation Sacrificing an animal is now an offense.

Would you like scripture references?

 

[Yes]

repent means keeping the 10

You don't know him because you follow a denomination of your itchy ears

 

[sincerly]

sincerly said: ↑
There is NO Living entity within a person that is distinct from the person as a living being. That is an erroneous Scriptural assessment.

How many direct quotes do you need to believe that there is a spirit in man, that comes from another place and that goes to another place after death?

"I knew you before I formed you in your mother's womb. Before you were born I set you apart and appointed you as my prophet to the nations."
- Jeremiah 1:5
"Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came among them."
- Job 1:6
"Since we respected our earthly fathers who disciplined us, shouldn't we submit even more to the discipline of the Father of our spirits, and live forever?"
- Hebrews 12:9

According to the Oxford Dictionary, Sheol and Hades "refer to a general dwelling place of souls after death."

"upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell(Hades) shall not prevail against it."
- Matthew 16:18
One possible interpretation of this verse is that the gates of Hades would not prevent the gospel from being taught to the spirits in Hades.

Clement of Alexandria taught that the apostles as well as Christ went to and taught the spirits in Hades.
"And it has been shown also…that the apostles, following the Lord, preached the Gospel to those in Hades. For it was requisite, in my opinion, that as here, so also there, the best of the disciples should be imitators of the master..."

What more do you need to believe?

Ross, have you quit claiming that there is something separate from the living person---within a human Being?
A Living Person is what those verses state.
The "grave", pit, place where a dead person is place/put is where it resides until the Resurrection as JOB testified.

You haven't shown any scriptural proof of a person having anything alive--not dying.(When one dies). A spirit of misunderstanding of GOD'S Scriptures is present with you however.

 

[sincerly]

Didn't every author of the Bible speak Hebrew?

(This is the place where you agree with me that I have a solid point.)

Ross, the Bible was written by authors in several languages and now the Bible is translated into the languages of the world.

 

[BummerBeavis]

We have to obey Jesus. That is how we are saved. That is how we know him.
When Jesus died, Jesus fulfilled the old law with its ceremonial law. God nailed the rules and regulations to the cross.

Observing special days is worthless, it is nothing. Circumcision of the flesh is now mutilation Sacrificing an animal is now an offense.

Would you like scripture references?

sir John said not me the bible says that you are a liar. also Yeshua said in revelation who was saved rev 12.17 7 Then the dragon was enraged at the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring—those who keep God’s commands and hold fast their testimony about Jesus. Yeshua also said if you love him you will keep his commandments. Now if you want to be an idolator and celebrate easter and xmass then you are an idolator and won't be entering heaven regardless what paul said.
We know that we have come to know him if we keep his commands. 4 Whoever says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in that person.

 

[Robert.Evans]

John 5:28-30 “Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice [29] and come out---those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned. [30] By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me.

It is common to say "This person has gone to be with the Lord", "He is looking at us from heaven now". But according to this verse, that is not so. Those who have believed in Christ and been baptized in His name for the remission of their sins, when they die, stay in their graves until Jesus returns. I recently heard Pat Robertson say that a person's spirit goes to heaven, but they are reunited with their body at the resurrection. As I understand it here, the dead will here his voice. I believe their spirit, not their bodies, hear his voice, but I could be wrong on that.
However, why have the final judgement, if everyone is already in heaven or hell?

Do you believe we are sent to our ultimate destinaton upon our death or at judgement day?

Thank you.

Does it also say that those who believe will ''not taste death''. How can one not taste death and be in heaven. Unless there is some sort of duality in the person. Just a thought.

 

[rrosskopf]

The New Testament was written in Greek.

By people whose first language was Hebrew. Did any speak English? I guess we are now past the point where you could have been gracious...
Just like words in English have multiple definitions, so do words in Greek and Hebrew. Do you really think that Jesus was the fragment of a sentence? (John 1:1)

God brings the message to us in our language.

Yes, that he does, through living prophets and apostles. Without them, we would only be guessing about a great many things.

 

[BummerBeavis]

Does it also say that those who believe will ''not taste death''. How can one not taste death and be in heaven. Unless there is some sort of duality in the person. Just a thought.

sorry there is no way Pat Robertson is saved. Last time I saw him he was making masonic hand sign of a master mason

 

[Yes]

By people whose first language was Hebrew. Did any speak English? I guess we are now past the point where you could have been gracious...
Just like words in English have multiple definitions, so do words in Greek and Hebrew. Do you really think that Jesus was the fragment of a sentence? (John 1:1)

Yes, that he does, through living prophets and apostles. Without them, we would only be guessing about a great many things.

No. We get God's Truth by reading about Jesus' teachings in the Holy Bible, and we get understanding by obeying them.

Your prophets are false and are teaching you things that are not from God.

 

[Yes]

sir John said not me the bible says that you are a liar. also Yeshua said in revelation who was saved rev 12.17 7 Then the dragon was enraged at the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring—those who keep God’s commands and hold fast their testimony about Jesus. Yeshua also said if you love him you will keep his commandments. Now if you want to be an idolator and celebrate easter and xmass then you are an idolator and won't be entering heaven regardless what paul said.
We know that we have come to know him if we keep his commands. 4 Whoever says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in that person.

You do not understand what the Bible says because you let teachers and your imagination led you to falseness.

Observing special days is worthless, and circumcision is mutilation of the flesh. Sacrificing animals is now a horrific thing to do.

 

[sincerly]

BummerBeavis said: ↑
sir John said not me the bible says that you are a liar. also Yeshua said in revelation who was saved rev 12.17 7 Then the dragon was enraged at the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring—those who keep God’s commands and hold fast their testimony about Jesus. Yeshua also said if you love him you will keep his commandments. Now if you want to be an idolator and celebrate easter and xmass then you are an idolator and won't be entering heaven regardless what paul said.
We know that we have come to know him if we keep his commands. 4 Whoever says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in that person.

You do not understand what the Bible says because you let teachers and your imagination led you to falseness.

Observing special days is worthless, and circumcision is mutilation of the flesh. Sacrificing animals is now a horrific thing to do.

'Yes", What will be "worthless" is one's assessment of that which is the Decalogue when they claim it is "worthless." That is the "Ten Commandments"---You know, those which were written on the tablets of stone by GOD'S own finger.
James(2:10) wrote, if one breaks one of the TEN---one has broken them all. And you call them "worthless"?
It Is those Laws by which sin is known.

That Seventh Day Sabbath (Blessed and Sanctified by GOD) was placed by GOD in the Fourth place of the Decalogue and was to be a day of convocating with GOD and all Believers---Hardly a "worthless day".
Also, It will be the day of assembling in the new earth as well.

 

[Yes]

BummerBeavis said: ↑
sir John said not me the bible says that you are a liar. also Yeshua said in revelation who was saved rev 12.17 7 Then the dragon was enraged at the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring—those who keep God’s commands and hold fast their testimony about Jesus. Yeshua also said if you love him you will keep his commandments. Now if you want to be an idolator and celebrate easter and xmass then you are an idolator and won't be entering heaven regardless what paul said.
We know that we have come to know him if we keep his commands. 4 Whoever says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in that person.



'Yes", What will be "worthless" is one's assessment of that which is the Decalogue when they claim it is "worthless." That is the "Ten Commandments"---You know, those which were written on the tablets of stone by GOD'S own finger.
James(2:10) wrote, if one breaks one of the TEN---one has broken them all. And you call them "worthless"?
It Is those Laws by which sin is known.

That Seventh Day Sabbath (Blessed and Sanctified by GOD) was placed by GOD in the Fourth place of the Decalogue and was to be a day of convocating with GOD and all Believers---Hardly a "worthless day".
Also, It will be the day of assembling in the new earth as well.

That day was about Jesus. All special days are about Jesus. Observing special days is nothing, it is worthless. Observing Jesus all day everyday is everything.

 

[Eliab ben Benjamin]

Shalom, well i must say i am surprised by all the argument over death and if you lay in your grave and wait, or go to some other place ... Not that most here will believe , but i can
testify that ones awareness (Soul/Spirit) goes somewhere ....

I was Pronounced Brain Dead on 24/02/82 .... Massive head trauma in an MVA ...
for three days i was kept on life Support so my body could be used for transplants ...
(my parents said NO, when they arrived at the hospital 3 days later)
I apparently awoke on the way to the morgue, sadly frightening the poor nurse ...

During that time i had an nDE, and travelled through the tunnel to the light ...
met whom i call the Gatekeeper, and went through a life review, not really the same
as the Judgement i expected but the same purpose ... after meeting my Grandfather
and being led towards others awaiting me there, the Gatekeeper came and informed
me i must return as i had a "Task" to perform ....

I am still a little upset with Hashem sending me back, as i was feeling home at last,
however think i have done the task, well several of them ...

Shalom ... Peace and Loving Kindness

 

[Yes]

Shalom, well i must say i am surprised by all the argument over death and if you lay in your grave and wait, or go to some other place ... Not that most here will believe , but i can
testify that ones awareness (Soul/Spirit) goes somewhere ....

I was Pronounced Brain Dead on 24/02/82 .... Massive head trauma in an MVA ...
for three days i was kept on life Support so my body could be used for transplants ...
(my parents said NO, when they arrived at the hospital 3 days later)
I apparently awoke on the way to the morgue, sadly frightening the poor nurse ...

During that time i had an nDE, and travelled through the tunnel to the light ...
met whom i call the Gatekeeper, and went through a life review, not really the same
as the Judgement i expected but the same purpose ... after meeting my Grandfather
and being led towards others awaiting me there, the Gatekeeper came and informed
me i must return as i had a "Task" to perform ....

I am still a little upset with Hashem sending me back, as i was feeling home at last,
however think i have done the task, well several of them ...

Shalom ... Peace and Loving Kindness

It sounds as if you have an amazing experience.
From what I have learned about those who are of the Jewish religion, they do not believe our spirits live on after the death of our bodies. Since you had such an amazing experience, and now know for sure that our spirits do live outside our bodies...why don't you consider that Jesus Christ is the truth?