Why Believe Jesus Never Had Sex?

[viole]

Of course it does. Promiscuity is the root cause of all manner of evil. Just think how beneficial it would be to have the discipline to only have sex within the confines of marriage. I thought all this is self evident. Just think of how much more rare abortion it's self would be in that case. Again it is hard to imagine anything more obvious.

So, do you agree to same sex marriages?

Ciao

- viole

 

[Kenny]

Oh, goodie! That means I have the magic juju to not just read, but understand the words of the Bible.
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CONGRATULATIONS!!

 

[Kenny]

It's kinda sad that you don't even attempt to explain why your ugly bible's god committed such atrocities...

But I understand why-- you are so invested with this thing, that you simply turn a blind eye to the bible's evil.

For worse reasons than the reasons we bombed Japan.

 

[Kenny]

Really? So -- it's 100% impossible? Because you'd have to be mentally programmed from birth or something, or else the "words" don't contain the "correct" meaning?

In that someone NOT mentally programmed, cannot "understand" it at all?

Wow....! That's kind of reverse bootstrapping ...

No WONDER adults only "convert" after they suffer some sort of extreme emotional or physical trauma...

Oh... theres enough to understand to get you there...

Have you sinned?

 

[Kenny]

What makes YOUR "interpretation" any better than what is actually written?

When what is written explains it, there isn't any better interpretation.

For an example:

"For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God"..."but the gift of God is eternal life"

"all" is "all-encompassing" and it includes you and me.

"come short" is easily understood. "I'm short of a dollar to pay the bill"; "I'm 10 days short of fulfilling my contract" - we can't make it to the glory of God.

"Gift" - again, easily understood. Someone else pays for it and all you have to do is receive it.

"Eternal life" - self explanatory.

So, my interpretation can't be any better than what is already written.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

Why did god even allow it in the first place?

A related, bigger question is: why does Jehovah allow any suffering?

Do you really want to know the answer? (I mean, since you asked it.)
I hope so. Here it is:

Why Does God Allow Suffering? — Watchtower ONLINE LIBRARY.

Why not browse different aspects of the subject?:

Suffering — Watchtower ONLINE LIBRARY

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

For worse reasons than the reasons we bombed Japan.

Principle Difference: The US was not an actual God. So the US was limited in methods used to halt further Japanese Empire Building.

In contrast to the bible's god? Who was apparently also quite limited... hmmm.

On the other hand? If you were looking to be sensationalist? Or looking to glorify death, murder and mayhem? Well, the bible's descriptions do fit that scenario.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

Oh... theres enough to understand to get you there....

Indeed. That is exactly why I'm an atheist. There's plenty in the very immoral bible to make an atheist out of anyone, if they take their blinders off, and throw away the Secret Decoder Ring....

Have you sinned?

Nope. Because there is no such thing as a "soul". And for "sin" to have any meaning? "souls" must be real-- and they are not.

So nope. No sin here. Oooops! Your jesus died for nothing.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

When what is written explains it, there isn't any better interpretation..

Nope. I read what is there-- and I don't attempt to "interpret" what it DOES NOT SAY.

In contrast to pretty much all christians, everywhere.

For an example:

"For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God"..."but the gift of God is eternal life"

"all" is "all-encompassing" and it includes you and me..

Nope. I reject that statement-- because there are no such things as "souls". and without "souls" the entire concept of "sin" is rendered without meaning.

So *boom*. Your book is without merit.

 

[Kenny]

Principle Difference: The US was not an actual God. So the US was limited in methods used to halt further Japanese Empire Building.

In contrast to the bible's god? Who was apparently also quite limited... hmmm.

On the other hand? If you were looking to be sensationalist? Or looking to glorify death, murder and mayhem? Well, the bible's descriptions do fit that scenario.

Shows you don't interpret the Bible correctly and, regardless, a limited US made the decision for the right reason as did God.

 

[Kenny]

I
Nope. Because there is no such thing as a "soul". And for "sin" to have any meaning? "souls" must be real-- and they are not.
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The roots of psychology
The word psychology was formed by combining the Greek psychē (meaning “breath, principle of life, life, soul,”) with –logia (which comes from the Greek logos, meaning “speech, word, reason”).
(Merriam-Webster)

Now, since psychology is the study of the soul, and it is a real study studying real souls...

What are you going to do about your sins?

 

[Kenny]

Nope. I read what is there-- and I don't attempt to "interpret" what it DOES NOT SAY.

In contrast to pretty much all christians, everywhere.

Nope. I reject that statement-- because there are no such things as "souls". and without "souls" the entire concept of "sin" is rendered without meaning.

So *boom*. Your book is without merit.

LOL... You never told me what it meant. What did it say?

 

[ecco]

I still think you misunderstood me, but if you think you didn't, I can't change your mind from what you think, but one thing I do know for sure is that you are not God, so you can't possibly know that you understood me correctly - especially after I clarified that you didn't.

I wonder if you would think that same way if you were ruling a domain, and 99.999% of your subjects were like this "twisted genocidal entity".

If you are not running away from the question, I would appreciate if you answered. However, you are your own man, so it's entirely up to you.

The discussion was about your genocidal god killing everyone/everything because people were really bad. You asked what I would have done. I answered.

 

[ecco]

ecco previously:

None of which changes the fact that you believe this petty, sick genocidal entity deserves worship and praise.​

hmmmmm... no.

So you don't think that this petty, sick genocidal entity deserves worship and praise. I thought you did.

Letting the rape of Nanking to be a worldwide problem is a sick humanity. You did say your supported that instead of the atomic bomb?

I don't believe I did. If you believe I did, please show the post.

 

[Kenny]

ecco previously:

None of which changes the fact that you believe this petty, sick genocidal entity deserves worship and praise.​

So you don't think that this petty, sick genocidal entity deserves worship and praise. I thought you did.




I don't believe I did. If you believe I did, please show the post.

I don't see any real points to address here since it is a rehash of the atheist mantra. You think He is a sick genocidal entity and I disagree. We can talk to Him about that and our viewpoints when we see Him.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

Shows you don't interpret the Bible correctly and, regardless, a limited US made the decision for the right reason as did God.

Says.... you. Who died and made you the "expert"? Hmmm? Just because if fits within what you want it to be? Your version is not as honest as mine, actually....

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

The roots of psychology
The word psychology was formed by combining the Greek psychē (meaning “breath, principle of life, life, soul,”) with –logia (which comes from the Greek logos, meaning “speech, word, reason”).
(Merriam-Webster)

Now, since psychology is the study of the soul, and it is a real study studying real souls...

What are you going to do about your sins?

I have no sin. Because there is no such thing as "soul", in spite of your Pop Psy Fake pseudo-quote.

Prove to me there are "souls", if you are able. Hint: you cannot refer to the bible, because that is your claim.

 

[Kenny]

I have no sin. Because there is no such thing as "soul", in spite of your Pop Psy Fake pseudo-quote.

Prove to me there are "souls", if you are able. Hint: you cannot refer to the bible, because that is your claim.

I rest my case.

Take it up with Merriam-Webster and the science of Psychology.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

I don't see any real points to address here since it is a rehash of the atheist mantra. You think He is a sick genocidal entity and I disagree. We can talk to Him about that and our viewpoints when we see Him.

The difference? We can use your bible to show that the bible's god IS a genocidal beast, who deliberately harden's hearts so he may "glorify" in their subsequent belittlement and deaths.

The bible says god made the whole world-- then got mad at it-- and murdered the whole thing because of his mistakes.

That's pretty sick for a human.

In a deity? Well.... your satan character has better morals: he only killed about 12 people, and only at the request of bible's god...

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

I rest my case.

Take it up with Merriam-Webster and the science of Psychology.

Webster? He's a god-robot, and nothing anything he said is trustworthy.

Moreover? Dictionaries are not authorities as you falsely seem to believe. They merely collect common usage of words. They are always behind the curve anyway.

But your quote? Proves nothing-- your case? Rejected wholesale, for a failure to show any evidence.