Why Believe Jesus Never Had Sex?

[1robin]

Why? Does it help to get that self discipline?

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- viole

Of course it does. Promiscuity is the root cause of all manner of evil. Just think how beneficial it would be to have the discipline to only have sex within the confines of marriage. I thought all this is self evident. Just think of how much more rare abortion it's self would be in that case. Again it is hard to imagine anything more obvious.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

No. You called all Creationist liars.
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Again, you project. I said people who create creationist websites are liars, because all creationist websites promote false information.

Or am I misinterpreting you, as you do the Bible?

Oh, pardon me! I did not realize you were god now, and only your "interpretation" is the "correct" one?

Funny--- the bible does not mention... you at all.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

Okay. Let me take it a step at a time then.
Is this a Creationist website? Our controversial footprint discovery suggests human-like creatures may have roamed Crete nearly 6m years ago

So? What's the point of you posting that? It's so not supportive of creationism in any way, shape or form.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

No. I did verify my statement with evidence, which you have not disproved..

How many times do you need to be told, you cannot use your CLAIM as your PROOF.

This IS basic logic.... perhaps that's why it appears to confuse you.... ?

You can't inject your interpretation of scripture, to prove scripture wrong..

Just as YOU cannot inject YOURS to prove it RIGHT.

Your interpretation is not a reliable source.

Neither are YOU.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

What you think, is not established truth or law. .

Same to you, bub. Same to you. What YOU think isn't established anything EITHER.

Have you appointed yourself supreme law giver and judge?.

Right back atcha, bub. Who appointed YOU supreme law-giver?

It's only a delusion - which doesn't change or affect anything.

So, to be clear-- you are speaking of the delusion called "the bible", right?

 

[nPeace]

Again, you project. I said people who create creationist websites are liars, because all creationist websites promote false information.




Oh, pardon me! I did not realize you were god now, and only your "interpretation" is the "correct" one?

Funny--- the bible does not mention... you at all.

???

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

Millions of people care.
I'm not forgetting anything..

So? Argument From Popularity is a Logical Fallacy. An even LARGER fraction of the earth's humans think you are 100% WRONG..... so what?

How does your reasoning and opinions affect the lives of millions of people, as did Jesus, and the Bible.

Dude! The majority of the planet does not believe your jesus was even real....! And have not been affected in any way by the ugly bible's fallacies.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

Again, a skewed view. But I understand why you view it that way.


So, if we both understand each others viewpoint... where's the beef?

It's kinda sad that you don't even attempt to explain why your ugly bible's god committed such atrocities...

But I understand why-- you are so invested with this thing, that you simply turn a blind eye to the bible's evil.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

Yes... you must be born-again for the words are spiritual words and must be understood by a spiritual being that is made in His image. Otherwise you are interpreting things through a western humanistic belief system. Two different languages..

Really? So -- it's 100% impossible? Because you'd have to be mentally programmed from birth or something, or else the "words" don't contain the "correct" meaning?

In that someone NOT mentally programmed, cannot "understand" it at all?

Wow....! That's kind of reverse bootstrapping ...

No WONDER adults only "convert" after they suffer some sort of extreme emotional or physical trauma...

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

Ya know, I have for so many years, even when I was a very devoted Baptists, where all these other people came from, such as where did Cain get his wife? Seth porking Eve would explain this, especially considering Lot's daughters jumped daddy's bones.

Indeed. It's kind of an ugly story, if you take it as written. But if you treat it as allegorical? Where do you stop with the allegories?

Was the entire Jesus narrative allegorical too? Was anything in the bible NOT allegorical?

I got sent into the hall, for Sunday School, for asking these and similar questions... *sigh*

 

[nPeace]

So? What's the point of you posting that? It's so not supportive of creationism in any way, shape or form.

That's my point.
The information was posted on a link you claimed was a Creationists website.
The information is accurate.
Therefore your claim that Creationist websites do not post the truth is absolutely false, and in fact a baseless claim - again.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

It's seems to be a habit for @Bob the Unbeliever .

What makes YOUR "interpretation" any better than what is actually written?

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

First, regarding Exodus....surely you can figure this out, why Jehovah God stepped in? His people were forced into slavery!!

And who permitted such an atrocity to happen in the first place, hmmmm?

Kind of a failure to see the future properly on the part of bible-god....!

oooops!

 

[nPeace]

How many times do you need to be told, you cannot use your CLAIM as your PROOF.

This IS basic logic.... perhaps that's why it appears to confuse you.... ?



Just as YOU cannot inject YOURS to prove it RIGHT.



Neither are YOU.

This seem to be becoming more and more

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

That's my point.
The information was posted on a link you claimed was a Creationists website..

I only looked at the first couple of your creationist links-- and concluded that's all you have-- ALL creationists websites promote lies, therefore NONE can be valid sources of information.

The information is accurate..

Only if it is NOT from a creationist website. .[/QUOTE]

Therefore your claim that Creationist websites do not post the truth is absolutely false, and in fact a baseless claim - again.

See above. The ONLY time a creationist website is NOT lying? Is by sheer random chance-- for their intent was to lie.

It's what they do. It's ALL they do.

 

[nPeace]

Same to you, bub. Same to you. What YOU think isn't established anything EITHER.


Right back atcha, bub. Who appointed YOU supreme law-giver?



So, to be clear-- you are speaking of the delusion called "the bible", right?

 

[nPeace]

So? Argument From Popularity is a Logical Fallacy. An even LARGER fraction of the earth's humans think you are 100% WRONG..... so what?



Dude! The majority of the planet does not believe your jesus was even real....! And have not been affected in any way by the ugly bible's fallacies.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

This seem to be becoming more and more

More and more? That you have painted yourself into a theological corner, and see no way out?

Exactly.

 

[nPeace]

I only looked at the first couple of your creationist links-- and concluded that's all you have-- ALL creationists websites promote lies, therefore NONE can be valid sources of information.



Only if it is NOT from a creationist website. .



See above. The ONLY time a creationist website is NOT lying? Is by sheer random chance-- for their intent was to lie.

It's what they do. It's ALL they do.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Yes... you must be born-again for the words are spiritual words and must be understood by a spiritual being that is made in His image. Otherwise you are interpreting things through a western humanistic belief system. Two different languages.

Oh, goodie! That means I have the magic juju to not just read, but understand the words of the Bible.

First, regarding Exodus....surely you can figure this out, why Jehovah God stepped in? His people were forced into slavery!!

Why did god even allow it in the first place? And what's even worse with this story, is it demonstrates that Jehovah is pro-post third trimester abortion. Even with animals that didn't have crap to do with any of it.