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The Scientific Math of the Milky Way

Native

Free Natural Philosopher & Comparative Mythologist
I am unaware that there are "Galactic seasons". And though there is a black hole in the center of the galaxy, I would not say that it "anchors" the galaxy in place. But in answer to one of your questions:
There is no "heavy black hole" in the galactic center. This "explanation" is a gravity ghost leftover from the Standard Cosmology. There is a funnel of a circuital formation and it works mostly as the eye of a hurricane.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
There is no "heavy black hole" in the galactic center. This "explanation" is a gravity ghost leftover from the Standard Cosmology. There is a funnel of a circuital formation and it works mostly as the eye of a hurricane.

This is incorrect. The rotation of stars around it has been directly observed. Do you need some articles on it? The black hole can be weighed using those orbits.

 

The Anointed

Well-Known Member
I am unaware that there are "Galactic seasons". And though there is a black hole in the center of the galaxy, I would not say that it "anchors" the galaxy in place. But in answer to one of your questions:

A galactic year is from 225 to 250 million years. It appears to be rather difficult to calculate the period of the Solar System to any greater degree right now:

Galactic year - Wikipedia

When I say that our galaxy is anchored in space by our central Black hole, I refer to the stars and planets that make up this galaxy, that remain attracted to our Black Hole which was the result of earlier gigantic stars that had collapsed in upon themselves.

The Black Hole ar the centre of our Galaxy, is said to have a mass of over three million suns, and around the Super Black Hole at the centre of our Galaxy, orbits many other black holes, which were once at the centre of other lesser galactic bodies that have merged with ours.

The larger Magellanic Cloud (Nebecula Major) and the smaller Magellanic Cloud (Nebecula Minor) are two galaxies that are orbiting our Milky Way galaxy that orbits the central Super Black Hole to which those Magellanic Clouds are being gathered and will one day merge with our galaxy. The Super Black Hole at the centre of our being will continue to grow as it devours the other lesser black Holes and dying stars and planets within this galaxy. And yet our galaxy is but one of billions of galaxies that are falling in toward the super gravitational anomaly that is called the ‘Great Attractor’.

We are on a collision course with the larger Galaxy, Andromeda. Will the two galaxies simply pass through each other, or will the two central black hole merge, creating a more massive Galaxy, which will be seen as the child born of our Milky Way Galaxy's marriage/union with Andromeda?
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
When I say that our galaxy is anchored in space by our central Black hole, I refer to the stars and planets that make up this galaxy, that remain attracted to our Black Hole which was the result of earlier gigantic stars that had collapsed in upon themselves.

The Black Hole ar the centre of our Galaxy, is said to have a mass of over three million suns, and around the Super Black Hole at the centre of our Galaxy, orbits many other black holes, which were once at the centre of other lesser galactic bodies that have merged with ours.

The larger Magellanic Cloud (Nebecula Major) and the smaller Magellanic Cloud (Nebecula Minor) are two galaxies that are orbiting our Milky Way galaxy that orbits the central Super Black Hole to which those Magellanic Clouds are being gathered and will one day merge with our galaxy. The Super Black Hole at the centre of our being will continue to grow as it devours the other lesser black Holes and dying stars and planets within this galaxy. And yet our galaxy is but one of billions of galaxies that are falling in toward the super gravitational anomaly that is called the ‘Great Attractor’.

We are on a collision course with the larger Galaxy, Andromeda. Will the two galaxies simply pass through each other, or will the two central black hole merge, creating a more massive Galaxy, which will be seen as the child born of our Milky Way Galaxy's marriage/union with Andromeda?

I am not sure. Ask an astrophysicist for a far more definitive answer. But since even galaxies are almost all empty space I would think that they would pass through one another.
 

The Anointed

Well-Known Member
There is no "heavy black hole" in the galactic center. This "explanation" is a gravity ghost leftover from the Standard Cosmology. There is a funnel of a circuital formation and it works mostly as the eye of a hurricane.

I suppose a super Black Hole, devouring the dying stars and planets of its outer Galactic body, could be seen as a swirling funnel where those dying galactic cells are torn apart and reconverted to the electromagnetic energy from which they were created and accelerated along a worn Hole or Einstein-Rosen bridge, to speeds far, far in excess of the speed of light, and spewed out of a White Hole in the trillions and trillions of degrees, somewhere far beyond the cosmic horizon.

In 1935, Einstein and physicist Nathan Rosen used the theory of general relativity to elaborate on the idea of black holes and worm holes, proposing the existence of "bridges" through space-time. These bridges connect two different points in space-time, theoretically creating a shortcut that could reduce travel time and distance; Billions of light years to mere metres.

According to general relativity, the gravitational collapse of a sufficiently compact mass forms a singular Schwarzschild black hole. In the Einstein–Cartan–Sciama–Kibble theory of gravity, however, it forms a regular Einstein–Rosen bridge.

The gravitational collapse of a single star such as the star of our solar system, can only form a White Dwarf, the gravitational collapse of bigger stars can create a neutron star, or a Black Hole, depending on its mass, but not necessarily a Worm Hole.

A worm Hole could theoretically be used as a method of sending information or travelers through space, unfortunately, physical matter which includes humans journeying through the space tunnels would appear to be an impossibility as there are strong indications that material objects travelling through a worm hole is forbidden by the law of physics.

But now that it has been discovered by our Quantum physicists that Physical matter is but an illusion, and all is, but the eternal energy from which this universe was created, perhaps one day new technology may develop a way to teleport bodies of energy along light beams and reconstruct them to their original form, with no damage done.

Wormholes may not only connect two separate regions within the universe, they could also connect two different universes.
 
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Native

Free Natural Philosopher & Comparative Mythologist
When I say that our galaxy is anchored in space by our central Black hole, I refer to the stars and planets that make up this galaxy, that remain attracted to our Black Hole which was the result of earlier gigantic stars that had collapsed in upon themselves.
Just like we have the Sun as the rotation anchor for the planets, the center of our galaxy is the central anchor for the rotation of the stars in the galaxy.

I don´t think the galactic center was/is a result of gigantic stars which once collapsed. IMO the stars in the galaxy all were made of electromagnetic forces from a plasma stage in the center of our galaxy.
The Black Hole ar the centre of our Galaxy, is said to have a mass of over three million suns, and around the Super Black Hole at the centre of our Galaxy, orbits many other black holes, which were once at the centre of other lesser galactic bodies that have merged with ours.
There are some dwarf galaxies in or galaxy which also shows up a central hole or funnel, but I don´t think these are results of any galactic mergings.
The larger Magellanic Cloud (Nebecula Major) and the smaller Magellanic Cloud (Nebecula Minor) are two galaxies that are orbiting our Milky Way galaxy that orbits the central Super Black Hole to which those Magellanic Clouds are being gathered and will one day merge with our galaxy. The Super Black Hole at the centre of our being will continue to grow as it devours the other lesser black Holes and dying stars and planets within this galaxy. And yet our galaxy is but one of billions of galaxies that are falling in toward the super gravitational anomaly that is called the ‘Great Attractor’.
These suggested mergings is contraintuitive in an expanding Universe and I don´t believe in these "gravitational ideas".

Even the Great Attractor is contraintuitive in an expanding Universe if you believe in this expansion.
 

Native

Free Natural Philosopher & Comparative Mythologist
I suppose a super Black Hole, devouring the dying stars and planets of its outer Galactic body, could be seen as a swirling funnel where those dying galactic cells are torn apart and reconverted to the electromagnetic energy from which they were created and accelerated along a worn Hole or Einstein-Rosen bridge, to speeds far, far in excess of the speed of light, and spewed out of a White Hole in the trillions and trillions of degrees, somewhere far beyond the cosmic horizon.
I follow you that much as I take the formation in galaxies as a cirquit of formation where stars are born from "gas and dust" and later on dissolves into gas and dust again and so on.

As for the rest of your reply, I take most of it as specualtions and a kind of science fiction.
 

The Anointed

Well-Known Member
Continued from post #66.

I googled this up from somewhere on the net, but can't remember where.

The Great Attractor: what is this thing?

The smallest unit of galaxies out there is our local group, comprising the Milky Way, the Andromeda galaxy and about 50 others. The Local Group is in turn part of the Virgo Supercluster containing some 40,000 members. Beyond all this is an unseen object called the Great Attractor which is pulling the Milky Way and all else towards it at the terrific speed of 14 million mph. What is this thing, how far away is it, and what will happen when we reach it? No one knows.

Detailed observations of the galaxies around us indicate that there is superposed on the Hubble flow a large-scale streaming motion of about 600 km/s in the general direction of the constellation Centaurus.

This mass migration includes the Local Group, the Virgo Cluster, the Hydra--Centaurus Supercluster, and other groups and clusters for a distance of at least 60 Mpc up and downstream from us. It is as if a great river of galaxies (including our own) is flowing with a swift current of 600 km/s toward Centaurus.

Calculations indicate that ~1016 solar masses concentrated 65 Mpc away in the direction of Centaurus would account for this. This mass concentration has been dubbed the Great Attractor. Detailed investigation of that region of the galaxy cluster Abell 3627) finds 10 times too little visible matter to account for this flow, again implying a dominant gravitational role for unseen or dark matter. Thus, the Great Attractor is certainly there (because we see its gravitational influence), but the major portion of the mass that must be there cannot be seen in our telescopes.

Enoch, the only man recorded in the Scriptures to have been carried to the throne of the Most High in the creation, and who was anointed as his successor, was then escorted to the ends of time, where he witnessed the universe burn up and fall as massive columns of fire, beyond all measure in height and depth into the GREAT ABYSS, which is described by Enoch, as the prison of all the stars and the host of heaven, beyond which, there was nothing, not even the space in which the universe had existed.

According to the ancient cultures, we live in an eternal oscillating universe that expands outward and contracts back to its beginning in space time.

“Universe after universe is like an interminable succession of wheels forever coming into view, forever rolling onwards, disappearing and reappearing; forever passing from being to non-being, and again from non-being to being. In short, the constant revolving of the wheel of life in one eternal cycle, according to fixed and immutable laws, is perhaps after all, the sum and substance of the philosophy of Buddhism. And this eternal wheel has so to speak, six spokes representing six forms of existence.” ---- Mon. Williams, Buddhism, pp. 229, 122.

The days and nights of Brahma are called Manvantara, or the cycle of manifestation, ‘The Great Day,’ which is a period of universal activity, that is preceded, and also followed by ‘Pralaya,’ a dark period, which to our finite minds would seem as an eternity, or but a moment in time.

‘Manvantara,’ is a creative day as seen in the six days of creation in Genesis, ‘Pralaya,’ is the evening that proceeds the next creative day. The six periods of Creation and the seventh day of rest in which we now exist are referred to in the book of Genesis as the “GENERATIONS OF THE UNIVERSE.”

The English word “Generation,” is translated from the Hebrew “toledoth” which is used in the Old Testament in every instance as ‘births,’ or ‘descendants,’ such as “These are the generations of Adam,” or “these are the generations of Abraham, and Genesis 2: 4; These are the generations of the Universe or the heavens and earth, etc. And the ‘Great Day’ in which the seven generations of the universe are eternally repeated, is the eternal cosmic period, or the eighth eternal day in which those who attain to perfection are allowed to enter, where they shall be surrounded by great light and they shall experience eternal peace, while those who do not attain to perfection are cast back into the refining fires of the seven physical cycles of endless rebirths that perpetually revolve within the eighth eternal cosmic cycle.

Enoch the righteous, wrote that God created an eighth day also, so that it should be the first after his works, and it is a day eternal with neither hours, days, weeks, months or years, for all time is stuck together in one eon, etc, etc, and all who enter into the generation of the Light beings, are able to visit all those worlds that still exist in Space-Time, but not in our time.

A series of worlds following one upon the other-- each world rising a step higher than the previous world, so that every later world brings to ripeness the seeds that were imbedded in the former, and itself then prepares the seed for the universe that will follow it. This is the true resurrection in which all from the previous cycle of universal activity, who still have the judgmental war raging within them, are born again into the endless cycles of physical manifestation, or rebirths.

God is today as he has always been: He is the only true constant, in that HE is eternally evolving.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Just like we have the Sun as the rotation anchor for the planets, the center of our galaxy is the central anchor for the rotation of the stars in the galaxy.

I don´t think the galactic center was/is a result of gigantic stars which once collapsed. IMO the stars in the galaxy all were made of electromagnetic forces from a plasma stage in the center of our galaxy.

There are some dwarf galaxies in or galaxy which also shows up a central hole or funnel, but I don´t think these are results of any galactic mergings.

These suggested mergings is contraintuitive in an expanding Universe and I don´t believe in these "gravitational ideas".

Even the Great Attractor is contraintuitive in an expanding Universe if you believe in this expansion.
And now we have a chance that to discuss the "scientific math" of the OP. The problem with the Electric Universe is that it is not scientific. It is only wild hand waving.

Theories can be modified when found to be incomplete. There is nothing wrong with that. But to even have a theory one must have a hypothesis first.


what is your testable hypothesis?
 

The Anointed

Well-Known Member
And now we have a chance that to discuss the "scientific math" of the OP. The problem with the Electric Universe is that it is not scientific. It is only wild hand waving.

Theories can be modified when found to be incomplete. There is nothing wrong with that. But to even have a theory one must have a hypothesis first.


what is your testable hypothesis?

Cosmological theories are formulated by scientists, and theories by definition, are the unproven hypothesis, suppositions, and opinions of those scientists.

There are as many, if not more scientific theories as to the origin of our universe, as there are differing religious bodies, such as Christianity, Hindu, Abrahamic, Muslim, etc.

Here is but one of many theories as to the creation of our three-dimensional universe. This one is by Niayesh Afshordi, an astrophysicist with Perimeter Institute for Theoretical Physics in Canada, who proposes that our three-dimensional universe floats as a membrane in a “bulk universe” that has four dimensions and that the “Bulk Universe” has four dimensional stars, which go through the same life cycles as our three-dimensional stars.

The most massive ones explode as supernovae, and their central core collapses into a black hole, like in our universe---only in four-dimension. The four-dimensional black hole has its own four dimensional “Event Horizon,” the boundary between the inside and the outside of a black hole.

In a three-dimensional universe, the event horizon appears to be two dimensional. In a four-dimensional universe, it appears to be three dimensional. The four-dimensional black hole, then blows apart, with the leftover material forming a three-dimensional membrane surrounding a three dimensional event horizon, which expands---and is essentially our universe.

So, according to the theory proposed by Niayesh Afshordi, our universe is the vomited-up guts of a fourth dimensional black hole. The expansion of the event horizon explains our universe's expansion; the fact that its creation stems from another 4D universe explains the weird temperature uniformity.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Cosmological theories are formulated by scientists, and theories by definition, are the unproven hypothesis, suppositions, and opinions of those scientists.

There are as many, if not more scientific theories as to the origin of our universe, as there are differing religious bodies, such as Christianity, Hindu, Abrahamic, Muslim, etc.

Here is but one of many theories as to the creation of our three-dimensional universe. This one is by Niayesh Afshordi, an astrophysicist with Perimeter Institute for Theoretical Physics in Canada, who proposes that our three-dimensional universe floats as a membrane in a “bulk universe” that has four dimensions and that the “Bulk Universe” has four dimensional stars, which go through the same life cycles as our three-dimensional stars.

The most massive ones explode as supernovae, and their central core collapses into a black hole, like in our universe---only in four-dimension. The four-dimensional black hole has its own four dimensional “Event Horizon,” the boundary between the inside and the outside of a black hole.

In a three-dimensional universe, the event horizon appears to be two dimensional. In a four-dimensional universe, it appears to be three dimensional. The four-dimensional black hole, then blows apart, with the leftover material forming a three-dimensional membrane surrounding a three dimensional event horizon, which expands---and is essentially our universe.

So, according to the theory proposed by Niayesh Afshordi, our universe is the vomited-up guts of a fourth dimensional black hole. The expansion of the event horizon explains our universe's expansion; the fact that its creation stems from another 4D universe explains the weird temperature uniformity.
I am well aware of what a theory is. The problem appears to be that the OP does not. Theories are strongly backed by evidence. They are much more than unsupported musing. Of course one cannot even have any evidence if one does not construct a testable hypothesis first.
 

Native

Free Natural Philosopher & Comparative Mythologist
Native said:
There is no "heavy black hole" in the galactic center. This "explanation" is a gravity ghost leftover from the Standard Cosmology. There is a funnel of a circuital formation and it works mostly as the eye of a hurricane.
This is incorrect. The rotation of stars around it has been directly observed. Do you need some articles on it? The black hole can be weighed using those orbits.
I know they have been directly observed, thank you. But is it the hole you then are measuring? No, it is just the rotational velocity of the stars.

The conventional assumption here is that a black hole attracts the stars and therefore must have "a massive force of attraction", but the stars in your video don´t disappear at all, so this assumption is evidently wrong and should be revised according to the strict scientific method.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Native said:
There is no "heavy black hole" in the galactic center. This "explanation" is a gravity ghost leftover from the Standard Cosmology. There is a funnel of a circuital formation and it works mostly as the eye of a hurricane.

I know they have been directly observed, thank you. But is it the hole you then are measuring? No, it is just the rotational velocity of the stars.

The conventional assumption here is that a black hole attracts the stars and therefore must have "a massive force of attraction", but the stars in your video don´t disappear at all, so this assumption is evidently wrong and should be revised according to the strict scientific method.
Do you have anything more than ranting and hand waving? If not I will accept the scientific answer.
 

Native

Free Natural Philosopher & Comparative Mythologist
Hello "Anointed" - Nice to meet you and your very qualified mythical/religious and cosmological comments.

Enoch, the only man recorded in the Scriptures to have been carried to the throne of the Most High in the creation, and who was anointed as his successor, was then escorted to the ends of time, where he witnessed the universe burn up and fall as massive columns of fire, beyond all measure in height and depth into the GREAT ABYSS, which is described by Enoch, as the prison of all the stars and the host of heaven, beyond which, there was nothing, not even the space in which the universe had existed.
Very interesting post here :) The mythical/religious term of the "Great Abyss" can be read in several cultural Stories of Creation, so Enoch are having a vision of the creation as such. IMO NOT of the entire Universe, but of the pre-conditions of the Milky Way formation.
According to the ancient cultures, we live in an eternal oscillating universe that expands outward and contracts back to its beginning in space time.
I fully agree in this. I though would explain it somewhat different: All formations in the Universe undergoes eternal changes of formation, dissolution and re-formation.
 

Native

Free Natural Philosopher & Comparative Mythologist
Do you have anything more than ranting and hand waving? If not I will accept the scientific answer.
Do you ever consider a logical comment before you reject it? It´s aloud to think for yourself, you know.

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I replied:
I know they have been directly observed, thank you. But is it the hole you then are measuring? No, it is just the rotational velocity of the stars.

The conventional assumption here is that a black hole attracts the stars and therefore must have "a massive force of attraction", but the stars in your video don´t disappear at all, so this assumption is evidently wrong and should be revised according to the strict scientific method.
 
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Native

Free Natural Philosopher & Comparative Mythologist
There are as many, if not more scientific theories as to the origin of our universe, as there are differing religious bodies, such as Christianity, Hindu, Abrahamic, Muslim, etc.
One can say this. But if one study Comparative Mythology it is just some local symbolism which differs in their Stories of Creation which of course are the same as they all describe the ancient known part of the Universe.
So, according to the theory proposed by Niayesh Afshordi, our universe is the vomited-up guts of a fourth dimensional black hole. The expansion of the event horizon explains our universe's expansion; the fact that its creation stems from another 4D universe explains the weird temperature uniformity.
I like this explanation. It very much confirms both the ancient perception of an cyclical formation in the Universe and the expansive motion in our Milky Way. In this explanation a "black hole" is just a funnel of birth, which I´ve claimed for several decades.

It even confirms the discovery of the galactic rotation curve and it´s expansive formation of stars from the galactic center.
 

Native

Free Natural Philosopher & Comparative Mythologist
And now we have a chance that to discuss the "scientific math" of the OP. The problem with the Electric Universe is that it is not scientific. It is only wild hand waving.
Sorry for this late response. You can begin to participate in this discussion AFTER having pondered over my reply in #73 which you just handvawed away without thinking of its contents at all.

To me you are useless as a serious debater as long as you don´t analyse the replies and give it some serious second thoughts.
 

The Anointed

Well-Known Member
One can say this. But if one study Comparative Mythology it is just some local symbolism which differs in their Stories of Creation which of course are the same as they all describe the ancient known part of the Universe.

I like this explanation. It very much confirms both the ancient perception of an cyclical formation in the Universe and the expansive motion in our Milky Way. In this explanation a "black hole" is just a funnel of birth, which I´ve claimed for several decades.

It even confirms the discovery of the galactic rotation curve and it´s expansive formation of stars from the galactic center.

I think you meant comparative religion and not mythology.

This is the condensed account of creation as recorded in Genesis’.....…”In the beginning God created the universe, and the (heavens, and the earth) were formless and void and darkness was upon the face of the deep and God’s active force was moving on the face of the waters. Then God said let there be light.”

Here is the scientific theory of creation........In the beginning, there was the “BIG BANG” which is said to have spatially separated the supposed infinitely dense, infinitely hot, infinitesimally small singularity, which in my opinion was the White Hole at the end of the Great Abyss into which the previous universe had descended, this event spewed out a liquid like soup of electromagnetic energy in the trillions and trillions of degrees.

It was from the quantum of that plasma liquid-like electromagnetic energy that the earth and all the heavenly bodies would be created, and although, all that the earth was created from, was already there in the beginning, the earth at that time had neither shape or mass, which meant it was formless and void, and no suns had yet come into existence to light up the darkness of the expanding liquid like soup of electromagnetic energy. But there was momentum within that ever-cooling cosmic cloud of wave particles, which wave particles are the quantum of that liquid like electromagnetic energy, and are not really particles at all as they have zero mass and no electric charge, yet they carry angular and linear momentum.

One would expect, that those wave particles which are the quantum of the liquid like electromagnetic energy, would have continued to expand further and further away from each other in the expansion of the universal building material.

But with the angular momentum of those waves, they collided with each other in nuclear fusion in the creation of the first basic sub-atomic particles. As the universal temperature dropped to some billions of degrees, the dark energy which was the expansion’s acceleration force, began to form into dark matter, hydrogen and helium, with trace quantities of lithium, beryllium, and boron.

As the universe expanded and cooled to a point where fusion stopped generating these basic elements, it left hydrogen as the dominant component from which the first gigantic stars were created, in which massive atomic reactors, the heavier elements, such as carbon and oxygen, etc, would be created.

And God said, “Let there be light.” Which was not the light from the sun of this minor solar system within our Milky Way galaxy, which solar system would not be created for some nine billion years after those first massive stars that lit up the darkness of the bottomless pit.

Bursting into life and light throughout the primitive universe over an unknown period of time, those first generation stars would have been thousands upon thousands of times as massive as our Sun and millions of times as bright, but each one burned for only a few million years before meeting a violent end, when they exploded out in a brilliant flash before collapsing in upon themselves creating the massive centrally condensed systems called ‘Black Holes,’ in which the greater percentage of their mass was trapped. The first creative day ended as all those gigantic stars collapsed Those first gigantic stars, from which the galaxies would later be created and which would have been collapsing in upon themselves, and evening descended as the lights of the universe went out, and the black holes devoured each other, and darkness covered the contracting space.

The age of our present physical universe gives too little time for these theories of biogenesis to get the job done. The philosophical question that has not been answered in origin-of-life studies is this: How can a universe of mindless matter produce beings with intrinsic ends, self- replication capabilities, and “coded chemistry”? Here we are not dealing with biology, but an entirely different category of problems.”

Our ancient ancestors expressed the belief that our scientists of today are just beginning to come to terms with, and that is, that following each “Big Bang” there comes the “Big Crunch,” when this universe is condensed once again, into the supposedly infinitely dense, infinitely hot, infinitesimally small singularity from which it originated.

There is no way whatsoever that the boundless cosmos as it has evolved to today, did so in the short 14 billion years since the last BIG BANG.

Only when we come to the realisation that this generation of the universe, has evolved from a series of parental universal bodies that have preceded this one, will science begin to realise the time scale involved in the evolution of man from mindless matter, which was created from the eternal energy, which has neither beginning or end.

Was the earth created before our minor sun within this solar system, as is revealed in the Bible? And did life begin to evolve on earth before our sun burst into life? And could the complexity of life as seen on the earth today, have evolved over the comparatively short period of a mere 4.6 billion years from the day when the earth was created?
 

Native

Free Natural Philosopher & Comparative Mythologist
I think you meant comparative religion and not mythology.
I really mean both areas since they, IMO are the very same when it comes to the numerous cultural Stories of Creation.
This is the condensed account of creation as recorded in Genesis’.....…”In the beginning God created the universe, and the (heavens, and the earth) were formless and void and darkness was upon the face of the deep and God’s active force was moving on the face of the waters. Then God said let there be light.”

Here is the scientific theory of creation........In the beginning, there was the “BIG BANG” which is said to have spatially separated the supposed infinitely dense, infinitely hot, infinitesimally small singularity, which in my opinion was the White Hole at the end of the Great Abyss into which the previous universe had descended, this event spewed out a liquid like soup of electromagnetic energy in the trillions and trillions of degrees.
I´ve studied Creation Myths for some 40 years now and I cannot find any descriptions which specifically claims that these myths deals with the creation of the entire Universe and a beginning of this. This of course fits with the ancient cyclical perception of formation in the Universe.

IMO the ancient Stories of Creation speaks of the pre-conditions of the creation of our Milky Way and of it´s factual creation from a Central Light from where everything in our galaxy are formed, inclusive our Solar System.

Compared to this ancient explanation, the modern cosmology just has it that the Solar System was made from a random cosmic cloud of gas and dust - without any connection to the Milky Way formation at all, even as it is a scientific measured integrated part of the Milky Way rotation.
It was from the quantum of that plasma liquid-like electromagnetic energy that the earth and all the heavenly bodies would be created, and although, all that the earth was created from, was already there in the beginning, the earth at that time had neither shape or mass, which meant it was formless and void, and no suns had yet come into existence to light up the darkness of the expanding liquid like soup of electromagnetic energy.
I fully agree with this explanation which is the very essence of the Electric Universe Theory :)

But there was momentum within that ever-cooling cosmic cloud of wave particles, which wave particles are the quantum of that liquid like electromagnetic energy, and are not really particles at all as they have zero mass and no electric charge, yet they carry angular and linear momentum.
Do you agree that "the divine Light" = Electric current and it´s magnetic fields, really created the momentum when working on the plasma stages of gas and dust?
But with the angular momentum of those waves, they collided with each other in nuclear fusion in the creation of the first basic sub-atomic particles.
I would prefer not to use the "gravitational" term "collide" as such, but rather an atomic and electromagnetic binding - or sorting - of gas and dust, thus creating stars and planet etc.
Bursting into life and light throughout the primitive universe over an unknown period of time, those first generation stars would have been thousands upon thousands of times as massive as our Sun and millions of times as bright, but each one burned for only a few million years before meeting a violent end, when they exploded out in a brilliant flash before collapsing in upon themselves creating the massive centrally condensed systems called ‘Black Holes,’ in which the greater percentage of their mass was trapped. The first creative day ended as all those gigantic stars collapsed Those first gigantic stars, from which the galaxies would later be created and which would have been collapsing in upon themselves, and evening descended as the lights of the universe went out, and the black holes devoured each other, and darkness covered the contracting space.
Here we differ somewhat :) My perception is that stars were slowly created in the galactic centers and spread out in the galactic surroundings. In this process there of course could have been som collision in teh initial process, but fairly early all stars and it´s planetary systems fell into their steady orbits.

Regarding the formation of planets, these were IMO formed directly out of their starry compagnions very early in the formation in teh galactic center and the same goes for the planetary moons which somewhat later in the process, have been dispersed out from their mother planets.
The age of our present physical universe gives too little time for these theories of biogenesis to get the job done. The philosophical question that has not been answered in origin-of-life studies is this: How can a universe of mindless matter produce beings with intrinsic ends, self- replication capabilities, and “coded chemistry”? Here we are not dealing with biology, but an entirely different category of problems.”
Yes, we modern humans in modern science are dealing with such problems, but I´m fairly sure this was not an ancestral problem at all with their eternal and timeless perception of everything.
There is no way whatsoever that the boundless cosmos as it has evolved to today, did so in the short 14 billion years since the last BIG BANG.
Which furthermore confirms the ancestral perception of an eternal and cyclical formation process.
Was the earth created before our minor sun within this solar system, as is revealed in the Bible?
I think scholars are misinterpreting this. In several stories of creation, the first thing to be created is some kind of firm matter or mud on a "Central Mound".

If having no idea of where this mound is located in cosmos, scholars and interpretors have no other choice but to take this "firm matter or mud" as to count for the Earth, and then we have the biblical "two times creation of the Earth problem", but all things comes together in the biblical story of creation when we interpret the biblical "soil" as the first firm matter on the "Divine Mound" instead of soil = the Earth which of course was created somewhat later in the assembled creation process of our Solar System.

BTW: Regarding the observed Great Attractor: We can thank modern technological science for many fine observations in cosmos and even this observation. But I don´t think we EVER can measure what is going on in the entire Universe.
 
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