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Is religion devised stupidity to control the people?

Mishmash

Member
You just go in loop on this, nothing more to say
You are in a loop in denial and keep coming back with spiritual talk which is not related to the thread .

We have established that nobody in this thread owns a mosque or other religious iconic builidng .

Therefore we are all in the same cage
 

Mishmash

Member
Well, that works well with for my religion. So yes, in some cases it could be better and in others it works well enough.
Consider the Vatican and Italia , they have done nothing towards all these homeless refugess . Quite clealry such a religion as big as the Vatican with extensive means of support , could of supported these people in charity and mercy .
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
Religion - A fictional beleif system that people beleive is factual

I understand religion alright

No, that is not religion as such. You really need to read some actual academic work on religion.

The world got sick of trading potatoes for cloth so invented money , the machine is a vault where all the money is kept .

Got any links with sources for that.

Just reminds me of a new movie thats come out , they plan a heist of a bank while there is a zombie apocolypse . How absurd the potatoes weren't in the vault because the money is useless .

That is just weird.
 

Mishmash

Member
No, that is not religion as such.

Yes it is as such

There is no factual existence of any God or spirit , religion can't be honest and just say there might be a God because existence can't really be explained

Instead they educate people in Jesus and all sorts when I think deep down we all know Jesus was just a man born to a mother .

Anyway off point , we should all never donate again in a religious collection box unless the money is specifically been used for a cause that we can see happen .
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
Yes it is as such

There is no factual existence of any God or spirit , religion can't be honest and just say there might be a God because existence can't really be explained

Instead they educate people in Jesus and all sorts when I think deep down we all know Jesus was just a man born to a mother .

Anyway off point , we should all never donate again in a religious collection box unless the money is specifically been used for a cause that we can see happen .

You didn't read the link about religion, did you?
 

Samael_Khan

Qigong / Yang Style Taijiquan / 7 Star Mantis
You don't see poor religious leaders
Depends on the religion. But the old ones are more along the lines of being naturally developed from human thought and not devised with intent. Then came charismatic charlatans who preyed on the spiritually hungry and made a killing, sometimes even literally.
 

Mishmash

Member
If it was not for god nothing would exist.

Second part i did not understand
If it were not for religion , we'd have a nice planet and all be more happy .

That isn't a statement that directly claims there is no God , that is aimed directly at the countless wars over religion in the past when the divide is simply people being stupid .
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
If it were not for religion , we'd have a nice planet and all be more happy .

That isn't a statement that directly claims there is no God , that is aimed directly at the countless wars over religion in the past when the divide is simply people being stupid .
You are entitled to holding your view of religions.
 

Sheldon

Veteran Member
Human greed is an attachment to something we feel we want.

It's an evolved survival instinct, we didn't evolve to hibernate or migrate, so the instinct to stockpile supplies would have been a useful survival mechanism. Like religion, which offered social cohesion, and the advantage of larger groups, it has become largely redundant in post industrialised societies, though not entirely of course.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
It's an evolved survival instinct, we didn't evolve to hibernate or migrate, so the instinct to stockpile supplies would have been a useful survival mechanism. Like religion, which offered social cohesion, and the advantage of larger groups, it has become largely redundant in post industrialised societies, though not entirely of course.
You are entitled to holding your view :)
 

Mishmash

Member
What is the basics?

1.We , the human race cannot really explain existence , there is a possibility there may be some form of creator we call God .

2.Any attempts to explain a possible creator can only be speculation

Two basic principles that if were not agreed upon , I'd suspect severe mental impairment .
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
1.We , the human race cannot really explain existence , there is a possibility there may be some form of creator we call God .

2.Any attempts to explain a possible creator can only be speculation

Two basic principles that if were not agreed upon , I'd suspect severe mental impairment .

So you are in effect judging the health of all humans based on something, which applies to objective reality in itself and not just a creator God.
And further you limit it to be about God and not just metaphysics/ontology as such.

Okay, I do it differently and thus we disagree, so now what?
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
If you disagree then you need to produce evidence of the existence of God . Hearsay is not a viable defense .
If it is @mikkel_the_dane personal belief, why do he has to prove anything to others?
Does it matter to a believer that you do not believe in a God? No, it is your personal opinion that God probably does not exist since you have no physical "evidence "

Can you prove God does not exist?
 

Sheldon

Veteran Member
You are entitled to holding your view :)

Well it's not my view, rather it is the view derived from the study of anthropologists, since there is some evidence that supports the idea our greed has its precursors in evolution.

"Greed is often defined as the intense and selfish desire for something, especially wealth, power, or food. Although we usually associate this unseemly characteristic to humans, it is readily apparent that animals can also be greedy. Many animals are gluttonous, territorial, and many don’t seem at all interested in sharing. The reason is also obvious: the more you have, the better you’ll do when it comes to surviving and reproducing."

BY PROF. NATHAN H. LENTS

Cross-posted with the permission of Dr. Nathan Lents
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The Evolution of Prosocial and Antisocial Competitive Behavior and the Emergence of Prosocial and Antisocial Leadership Styles



 

Sheldon

Veteran Member
If it is @mikkel_the_dane personal belief, why do he has to prove anything to others?


This is a debate forum, bare claims are meaningless, else one can literally claim anything, and label it opinion. Not that subjective opinions have no place, but they are less compelling that claims for which sufficient objective evidence can be demonstrated. Even a bare opinion ought to be justified here of course, it's no good claiming red is a far better colour than blue, as again in a debate forum that seems a pointless revelation.
 
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