4 hours difference. It's still stretching it for group building. We could be in the same community, but not the same group, because if I allowed 4 hours for another poster in the opposite direction, that would separate the two of you by 8 hours. that would slow our communications of ideas and make for rough decision making processes.
What time zone are you in? Seems like Pacific?
What time zone are you in? Seems like Pacific?