Oh boy, Willamena.. your comment is hard to understand.
HAVING is a relation.... hmmm ok.
NOT having is a relation as well?... OK.....
Zubantig is unreal IS a proposition.. Ok.....
We can relate to a proposition.. OK......
If there was no proposition about Zubantig, then we could not relate...
Care to explain?
The theist may not believe in Mango-Bango or whatever.. WHY?... lack of evidence?
The atheist.. may not believe... why?
The point is that we all agree that a disbelief is the DEFAULT position.
But maybe you can explain your comment a bit. I'm not SURE what you mean.
I do not currently have, and never have had a belief in the great fire god Abe-Mango, daughter of the Sun god Page-Abe.
But I'm perfectly prepared to have one.
If it's on sale.
One connotation of lacking is not having.
You can not have something that isn't real.
I am without the warrior god ZUBANTIG.
But so is everyone. Zubantig was just made up. It doesn't exist.
I can't BE WITH Zubantig as hard as I try.
I HAVE no choice but to be WITHOUT Zubantig, even though it...
Interesting.. But then again, this is all mere speculation. We don't REALLY know the genesis of religions in humans historically. We can GUESS.. and you made a FINE guess. I truly APPLAUD your guess.
I even love part of your guess.
But it's still just a guess.
Who really KNOWS how people...
I don't care if people who believe certain things tend to congregate.
I only REALLY care if what they say they believe in is TRUE or not.
We know people have strange beliefs of all kinds.
Your veiled threat is MEANINGLESS if it's not true.
No, you BELIEVE that there is ONE Almighty.. ( whatever you mean by THAT ).. I see NO reasoning here, just a pure statement of belief.
And those other unjustified beliefs...
But reason?
You would have to SHOW us some reasoning.
I said that belief WAS a thought process, that a belief is a THOUGHT..
We look at something to see if it's TRUE or not. IF we think that it IS true, then we can believe in it.
But believing is a THOUGHT process, just like the reasoning that leads us to a conclusion about the truth value of some...
Oh.. OK.. Sorry, Willamena. You are defining words the way YOU use them. That's perfectly fine.
I can't agree with most of your definitions, and that makes it hard for me to use those words in a conversation with you about them.
IF I want to use the word "trust" or "faith" or "doubt" in a...
You are like a dictionary.
I never knew words were so ... strict in their meanings.
However...
the word "doubt" does sometimes carry the connotation of wavering, hesitation, and uncertainty, you know, it the other dictionaries I sometimes refer to when you're not around :D.
Your feelings on the subject have been noted. I put a LOT of stock on your feelings as they are what I usually refer to when trying to know how the world really is. So, thanks for reminding me what your feelings about baby thoughts are like and about.
Some religious folks DO say that they are...
Oh maybe he meant never in a HISTORICAL sense.. as in, as soon as people could THINK about gods.. they believed in them, too.
By default.
But to prove my hypothesis. we would need that time machine and that mind reading tool.
Let's get working on those machines and stop the speculation...
You assume that the God question is a 50/50 coin toss.
This would mean that you automatically give God's existence ( heads ) a 50 percent probability of being true.
Why should we accept that high probability?
We know that the NATURAL world exists with a probability close to 1 ( or 99.9...