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    Is reason a good enough basis for belief/non-belief?

    You know, it is not that the first cause rules the material universe or any other dimensional aspect of creation. Creation was set into motion and and does not need altering. No need to rule that Creation. The first cause is responsible for the Creation but that is as far as that...
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    Is reason a good enough basis for belief/non-belief?

    I would agree if you mean to say that no reasoning, can make(as an analogy)it possible to get to the opposite shore by thought alone. Because we exist I believe that God exists. God, being the first cause, needs no first cause. All existence needs a first cause. As soon as I state that...
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    Is reason a good enough basis for belief/non-belief?

    If the first cause is the universe, god=universe and that eliminates the concept of a first cause, god. The "leap of faith" is to believe that there is a god. Either way, it is a "leap of faith." The logic of God is, or Wisdom, is God. It therefore stands to reason that there is no need to...
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    Is reason a good enough basis for belief/non-belief?

    "Not if I also believe there was never a time when the universe did not exist in some form. No beginning, no need for a "first cause". My existence demonstrates that everything that is always has been and always will be, better than it demonstrates that at some time there was nothing, the...
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    Struggling to come to terms with something I have read in the bible.

    Second of Two. Lot went out of the door to the men, shut the door after him, and said, "I beg you, my brothers, do not act so wickedly. Look, I have two daughters who have not known a man; let me bring them out to you, and do to them as you please; only do nothing to these men, for they have...
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    Struggling to come to terms with something I have read in the bible.

    If you believe what you read without translating and interpreting then you missed what was said in Genesis about Sodomy. First of Two Genesis 19:1-20: The Story of Sodom The story is this: two angels (Heb. mal’akim), human-like companions of God, visit Sodom on a reconnoitre to see if the...
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    Is reason a good enough basis for belief/non-belief?

    Interesting analogy; except that your god the sun becomes as experienced as the first cause having created the sun and therefore can give life and destroy life as creation takes it's course. All of creation as we experience it comes from a first cause, God. Without a first cause we do not...
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    Is reason a good enough basis for belief/non-belief?

    It matters not what Buddhism is about. Whatever religion being discussed is about a god. I fully doubt that there is more than one Creator. The Jewish religion, before it was a religion, was polytheistic. Any religion is an attempt at some reasonable explanation about some aspect of our existence.
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    Is reason a good enough basis for belief/non-belief?

    The error in your thinking is that there is nothing self-evident revealing a god's existence. What is self-evident is our existence. Everything else is a "leap of faith."
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    Struggling to come to terms with something I have read in the bible.

    It all depends on whose doing the interpretation and for that matter, all modern day translations have real problems in interpreting manuscripts that no longer exist. There are no original manuscripts and what manuscripts there are, and there are plenty, there are deletions, additions...
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    Is reason a good enough basis for belief/non-belief?

    Stated very simply and right on.
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    Is reason a good enough basis for belief/non-belief?

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    Is reason a good enough basis for belief/non-belief?

    And I was only quoting Kierkegaard's "leap of faith." As for "Jesus Christ was God in the human flesh," that is restating what Christianity believes, speaking of the Trinity. That is another topic.
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    Is reason a good enough basis for belief/non-belief?

    For a religious belief to designate or define God for me is to establish that man has the knowledge to understand God. My knowledge of God comes from being able to witness all of creation that exists for me to see, smell, hear and touch. My existence tells me that there is a God, first cause...
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    Marriage Equality Is a Theological Necessity

    St. Augustine of Hippo, 4th century Christian Patriarch, stated the following of the Western Christian community of his century: "But here there is no ground for a criminal accusation: for a plurality of wives was no crime when it was the custom; and it is a crime now, because it is...
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    Marriage Equality Is a Theological Necessity

    I noticed that you did not reference Christianity as your source to state that marriage is between a man and a woman. Just as well, since I find no reference to Biblical law pertaining to marriage. Thomas Aquinas would refer to the "state of innocence" as the first mention of marriage in the...
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    Is reason a good enough basis for belief/non-belief?

    Don't assume that when I speak of God that I do not acknowledge what others call the creator. After all, it is just mankind's way of subjectifying God. We either subjectify or objectify the creator. We have no other means. It is all about reasoning. And yes, Cottage has it right. I/We...
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    Is reason a good enough basis for belief/non-belief?

    "Faith then gives us a sort of knowledge, for when we believe, our minds assent to something knowable; but not to something we see but to something he whom we believe sees. Faith falls short of understanding, for a mind that understands assents to what it itself sees in the light of the first...
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    Is reason a good enough basis for belief/non-belief?

    Faith is different than having a faith. A "Leap of Faith" (Kierkegaard) essentially is moving from one state to another without empirical evidence.
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    Marriage Equality Is a Theological Necessity

    All that you say is fine as long as it is not man that is interpreting what God is about. Many a Christian would tell you that the Word of God is the Holy Bible, or more specifically, the KJB. Saying that if the Bible was good enough for God it is good enough for me. Problem is that there are...
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